If a God Exists.......
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roronoa3000
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:sing: O' say can you see :sing:
Vlad The Impaler
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Man you really did it now D. He wont listen to a thing you say and he'll repeat his unsubstantiated tripe over and over again in book form! Good luck. I suggest taking a break and counting to 10 every once in a while so as not to put your hand through your monitor in an aggravatingly inept attempt to choke his ass.:2 cents:
You have made some good points in this thread, more so than anyone else (especially that moron roronoa3000) on the side of religion. You have avoided some of the more difficult questions but you have made some good points along the way.
The truth is I am not completely against the idea of a God creature, nor do I believe for a second that man is anywhere near the top of the list when it comes to intelligent races in the universe.
I just find that the human race, for an "intelligent species" is generally a very shallow thinking race, and I enjoy debates which force us to delve more deeply into what most people just take for granted as fact (God, the big bang theory, the Kardashians, whatever).
If I were to have been arguing on the side of religion in a debate I would have used many of the insightful points pornophile has made here. Bravo sir.
Now as to my actual point of view on God.. Does he exist? I personally find the idea that he does very difficult to accept, even silly. Could he possibly exist? Absolutely. It is hard for me to say this with out referring to other mystic beings like dragons and killer aliens and the like, as I think it is equally possible that they exist as well right along with God.
Furthermore I certainly do not see organized religion as a helpful tool in modern society, only as an intangible excuse for blindly committing atrocities.
I have never killed anyone in the name of atheism. How many have died in the name of Catholicism, Islam, and the other religions throughout history? How many innocents have been slaughtered?
I may not have changed anyone's mind about whether or not God exists. Some people need the idea of a Big Boss to make them selves feel like there is a reason to go on living, or what ever.. self esteem issues, I don't know. But if I have at least made people who blindly believe because they were told to think about and seriously consider the fact that God and all the associated tales might in fact not be real, regardless of what religious sect or cult they belong to, I believe I have done my part.
Vlad The Impaler
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If you Flame people but insist you do not Flame people does that mean there's no such thing as flaming or does it just mean that it doesn't apply to said non-flaming Flamer because said non-flaming Flamer doesn't have to answer to anyone because there is no such thing as flaming according to said flaming non-Flamer?
The Giant Human Skeleton is a well known internet hoax. The claims can be traced from its origin to the fake vid you posted. Nice try. :tongue:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/odd/giantman.asp
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/photo_database/image/giant_human_skeleton/
I'm not sure I worded this question correctly to get my point across.. or it just went right over your head. It may however have been my fault so i will try to clarify;
om·nip·o·tent /ɒmˈnɪpətənt/[om-nip-uh-tuhnt]
–adjective
1. almighty or infinite in power, as God.
2. having unlimited authority or power.
–noun
3.an omnipotent being.
4.the Omnipotent, God.
If God is omnipotent, which as I have been taught is part of if not the entire definition of Him, then there is nothing He can not do.
Assuming this is true, then we can demonstrate that an omnipotent being, by definition, can't exist.
If he can create a box which he can't look into, then there is something he can't do, which in this case would be looking into the box. He would therefore not be omnipotent.
If He can't create a box of this nature, then this still shows that He is not omnipotent, since there is still something he can't do.
Either way, by this argument He can't be omnipotent, AKA all-powerful. If he is not all powerful, then by definition he is not God. If nobody is all powerful, then nobody is God. If nobody is god, then there is no god.
People may try to get out of this by saying god is outside of reality, but that is simply a cop-out of an argument which can't be beaten from the other point of view.
Ace Bandage
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I was going to post a Video montage of dragons and tinkerbells, but this sums it up nicely as well. :thumbsup:
Vlad The Impaler
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Ok a simple "wrong" would have done just fine but, ah...
Seriously though it's as I suspected. You have nothing to say.
I bet I can tell you why this guy in the vid has a cheating wife though (and yes I am aware he is just an actor, but there are really people like this).. he just screams out "I physically beat anyone who is weaker than me if they disagree with me, and if I can't do that I just avoid the topic all together by calling them an idiot."
' "and if I can't do that I just avoid the topic all together by calling them an idiot." '
at least that is what you have just done by posting this vid.
Ace Bandage
The one and only.
As I suspected, nothing you say is ever relevant. I'm an atheist too, but it's embarrassing to be on the same side as you. Your arguments are just fundamentally retarded. I wish you would stop posting. You're really giving the rest of us a bad name. People are going to think that all non-believers are dumbasses...
Vlad The Impaler
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If God created the box He can't look into then He already knows what's in the fuckin box! Whatever was there when He made the fucking thing. :thefinger
Say some asshole puts something in the box later then asks God to tell him what it was. God doesn't need to look into the goddamn box to know He just needs to look into the asshole that put something there.
WHAT'S IN THE FUCKIN BOX!!!!!
Say some asshole puts something in the box later then asks God to tell him what it was. God doesn't need to look into the goddamn box to know He just needs to look into the asshole that put something there.
WHAT'S IN THE FUCKIN BOX!!!!!
It still implies that he can't look into the box. I didn't ask if he knows whats in the box or if he needs to look into the box, I asked if he can look into it. If he can't, he is still not all powerful, regardless of whether or not he can find out whats in it through other means.
I don't necessarily need to look into a car battery to find out whats inside. I can Google it or just ask somebody who does know. This does not mean I am all powerful.
Vlad The Impaler
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Andronicus Ry
roronoa3000
Vlad19
This is a list of people I suspect are no longer even reading the thread anymore, yet are still posting just to be here..
Curious.. I think that is called Trolling..
Your right, I'm done listening to you.
PS photobucket doesn't work here dumbass.
Vlad The Impaler
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Care to elaborate or are you simply unable?
Funny, I haven't seen any arguments from you, just quips. I think we know who the dumb ass is..
It is embarrassing to me to have to say I am the same species as you.
Anyway stop trying to avoid the topic and stop trying to bait me into flaming with you.
By the way I am not just making my arguments up, I am mostly paraphrasing from renowned philosophers to fit the current debate. It's a JAG thing I picked up in Law School. None of the men who came up with the original arguments are dumb asses, dumb ass. They are mostly highly paid think-tank workers and authors.
Vlad The Impaler
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Go play in traffic. You got it all figured out, so figure it out. Its self explanatory. So no, I don't care so explain.
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