Part of me feels like these pricks picked on the hostess because her physicality more than their "morals". I bet that if it was a brutish bar bouncer that asked them for the proof of vax, they wouldn't have made a fuss. Fucking cowards.
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Little Red Wagon Repairman
MFOMBSoPGA
Some people are shameless assholes that don't know how to leave their own house. I worked with some decent guys and there would still be little pipsqueaks running their mouths refusing to cooperate. You can't just clock 'em on the sidewalk in front of witnesses and they know that. I have quite a mouth on me and if I couldn't bait someone to hit me they'd have to swallow the shit I said to them in front of their people.
Little Red Wagon Repairman
MFOMBSoPGA
Hey Lux, it seems the fringes on both sides are full of doggy doo-doo. You and me are smart enough and have protected ourselves. What do you think of Black Lives Matters saying that the COVID Vaccine mandate in NYC is racist and targets Black people?
https://news.yahoo.com/blm-says-blasio-apos-covid-014044638.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
I hate when DDD brains cheapen the anti-racism movement with stuff like this.
Assuming this is even true, funny how the "activist" nor the article touch on why this is the case.
Luxman
#TRE45ON
Why are you asking me? You're more woke than me, so you probably understand BLM better than I do.
I only know that the purpose of BLM is to shed light on the shootings of innocent black people by police.
There are democrats who are anti-vaxxers, I know a few, but the majority of anti-vaxxers are republican Trumptards.
gmase
Nattering Nabob of Negativism
It is accurate.
Why is it so? Some discussion:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/13/...rates-in-nyc-and-one-major-disparity.amp.html
The mandate would not appear to be racist in intent. It does seem to have some unintended consequences though.
Little Red Wagon Repairman
MFOMBSoPGA
Just a question, Lux. You have a fetish for Trump supporters and I was showing the diversity of ignorance is in both camps.
HERE is why blacks are skeptical when it comes to receiving vaccines..:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...vaccine-fears-medical-experiments/4358844001/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...vaccine-fears-medical-experiments/4358844001/
That sounds like a combination of the False Balance Logical Fallacy and the False Equivalence Logical Fallacy.
Even more so when one considers that black people and other minorities in this country have had shady medical stuff done to them in the past, like the The Tuskegee Study, and at least have a shred more of a reason to be more suspicious where others do not.
I do think overall they anybody that doesn't get vaccinated is being unreasonable, including black people that don't trust the government, as there is so much reliable information out there and already there are so many people that have had it and there has been no negative effects, but lets also not pretend the situations are equivalent. This isn't like Trump supporters willingly choosing to increase their chance of death and of harming those around them because it's some nonsensical political hill for them to die on or because they want to "own the libs", or because they might have to actually admit they were wrong about something.
Little Red Wagon Repairman
MFOMBSoPGA
D-Rock, if Tuskegee and other things from generations ago were the reason for not getting vaccinated wouldn't the generations closer to those times be more wary of the vaccination and knowledgeable about history? It is the young blacks that are not getting vaccinated. Why don't we let the young ones speak for themselves? I would like to know their reason also.
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I agree. We don't have segregated lines at vaccination sites, so the idea that this is some government scheme holds less water.
Like you said, if those from the generation who lived through those times were reluctant, I'd be more inclined to be more sympathetic. But if that's not the case, then IMHO they need to justify why they are putting everyone else at risk, like all the other anti-vaxxers.
Luxman
#TRE45ON
Most covid infections happened because about 80% of people who were infected were asymptomatic or had minor symptoms that can be mistaken for a cold.
Because those 80% didn't know they were infected, they carelessly went around infecting many others.
All pandemics and epidemics start with one infected person, the rate at which it spreads depends on the virality of a virus and if there are many infected people travelling.
Some viruses that aren't very infectious can take years to spread around the world, other viruses like covid that are easily passed from person to person took weeks to spread.
It seems suspicious that the virus started right before millions of Chinese people went on vacation all over the world.
If it was a virus from a lab that was accidently or intentionally spread, then it's the damn commie CCP who are responsible either way.
Was it an accident and the CCP kept it secret for 2 months so China's economy wouldn't suffer and they hoped the covid virus would die out???
Or did the CCP commie bastards intentionally release the virus to weaken the economy and society of the USA and other democracies, so that China could somehow increase it's economic and military strength???
We will probably never know the truth.
Because those 80% didn't know they were infected, they carelessly went around infecting many others.
All pandemics and epidemics start with one infected person, the rate at which it spreads depends on the virality of a virus and if there are many infected people travelling.
Some viruses that aren't very infectious can take years to spread around the world, other viruses like covid that are easily passed from person to person took weeks to spread.
It seems suspicious that the virus started right before millions of Chinese people went on vacation all over the world.
If it was a virus from a lab that was accidently or intentionally spread, then it's the damn commie CCP who are responsible either way.
Was it an accident and the CCP kept it secret for 2 months so China's economy wouldn't suffer and they hoped the covid virus would die out???
Or did the CCP commie bastards intentionally release the virus to weaken the economy and society of the USA and other democracies, so that China could somehow increase it's economic and military strength???
We will probably never know the truth.
Theopolis Q. Hossenffer
I am in America, not of it.
That was my Neighbor's too. She died in March 2021
Theopolis Q. Hossenffer
I am in America, not of it.
Personally I doubt an intentional release as the first plan for a weaponization of disease is to have a vaccine for your side. And from what I can see theirs doesn't work very well. Accidental, possibly and sitting on it for months is the usual Chinese way of handling anything that goes bad. My brother lives in Wuhan in China. I hope to question him if he is ever back in the States about what he thought happened.
I agree, if it was weaponized it sure looks like it was botched containment. With the resources they have, at the very least they would have at least unleashed it in some other country, or if in China, a city with less industrial value.
The one counter to that is that you don't hear of many chinese politicians getting infected, let alone die from COVID. The US has had many prominent political deaths, and POTUS himself was infected. So the conspiracy theorist in me can't ignore that they do have a more potent vaccine for "VIP use". If history serves as precedent, it wouldn't be above the chinese government to sacrifice a couple thousand of their own civilians in order to carry out their plans (and in the process, make it look "legit").
DrakeM
Try it, first one's free...
I'm getting more and more annoyed by people who won't get vaccinated. I saw these stats on the news this morning (for Canada):
87.1% of people 12+ have at least one shot, that's 76.1% overall including kids under 12
80.6% of people 12+ have both shots, that's 70.5% overall including kids under 12
Great looking numbers right? From province to province, the numbers are similar yet a couple of western provinces (Alberta and Saskatchewan) are in the midst of a covid-induced health care crisis running out of ICU beds etc. but its not happening in bigger provinces like Ontario where I live. What's the difference? Ontario never got rid of masking mandates (e.g. shopping) but out west they did. The resulting difference speaks for itself. While Ontario's numbers have gone up, they've plateaued at roughly the same cases-per-day as the western provinces but Ontario has a population something like 14 or 15 times greater than Saskatchewan.
My take-away from this obvious: masks work but only if everyone continues to use them. We're stuck with them until that last 20% of adults gets both shots and we can get kids vaccinated. I'm guessing another year of wearing these fucking chin diapers before we can ditch them and that's assuming no new variants show up that defeat the current vaccines.
87.1% of people 12+ have at least one shot, that's 76.1% overall including kids under 12
80.6% of people 12+ have both shots, that's 70.5% overall including kids under 12
Great looking numbers right? From province to province, the numbers are similar yet a couple of western provinces (Alberta and Saskatchewan) are in the midst of a covid-induced health care crisis running out of ICU beds etc. but its not happening in bigger provinces like Ontario where I live. What's the difference? Ontario never got rid of masking mandates (e.g. shopping) but out west they did. The resulting difference speaks for itself. While Ontario's numbers have gone up, they've plateaued at roughly the same cases-per-day as the western provinces but Ontario has a population something like 14 or 15 times greater than Saskatchewan.
My take-away from this obvious: masks work but only if everyone continues to use them. We're stuck with them until that last 20% of adults gets both shots and we can get kids vaccinated. I'm guessing another year of wearing these fucking chin diapers before we can ditch them and that's assuming no new variants show up that defeat the current vaccines.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/alberta/article-alberta-has-over-1000-covid-19-patients/
This really puts it in perspective. Talk about bringing down the average.
And now they're asking to airlift patients to other provinces.
Worse yet, they're very close to initiating a triage protocol, which means:
Personally, I think the triage system should simply prioritize those who were vaccinated. That seems more fair.
