Coronavirus

[gmase]

1 million Americans got the vaccine today: a 7-week high.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/19/coronavirus-vaccine-dose-surge-506260

 

[gmase]

Mask Wars coming to a school near you:
https://thehill.com/changing-americ...-npr-reports-a-series-of-incidents-are-taking
https://www.npr.org/sections/back-t...841279/mask-mandates-school-protests-teachers
[pardon the highfalutin usage of NPR 😉]

... or a Board of Supervisors meeting:
https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/lo...attacks-on-countys-covid-19-response/2696607/

Informed citizenry:

• “The people have spoken, COVID is over. The numbers you stated are propaganda,”
• “There are reports from fertility clinics all across the country that sperm counts and motility is way down after the shot.”
• “My name is Jeff and I have two teenagers I’m trying to keep alive through this genocidal scam you all are running.”

Health professionals:

• "Listening to the cultish, misinformed, culture rants was exhausting and infuriating to us trying to get us out of this mess."
• “As health care providers, We see these patients coming in, we see these patients who are now younger ending up on a ventilator and some ending up with severe -- if they survive -- severe compromise,”
• “We absolutely need to ignore them. And face the reality and believe that as a community, we can beat this. We’re better than this. We can beat this pandemic,”

 

[tvstrip]

So to continue my "exercise", here's one heard from another coworker:

"I'm waiting for the vaccine to get full approval"

While COVID vaccines are authorized for "emergency" use, most (if not all) don't actually have full approval from regulatory bodies, most notably, the FDA. Even those from outside of the US are using this reasoning, since from what I see, the FDA equivalent in many countries have also yet to give their full blessing (even if their governments have).

Case in point, the Pfizer is HOPEFULLY going to get approval by Labor day:
https://www.reuters.com/business/he...-19-vaccine-monday-new-york-times-2021-08-20/

Pfizer's vaccine was authorized for emergency use in December and more than 203 million people in the United States have so far received it. None of the three authorized COVID-19 vaccines have received full FDA approval.

Some notes about "Emergency use authorization" (EUA) vs "Full approval":
https://www.forbes.com/sites/leahro...ed-any-covid-19-vaccines-yet/?sh=651cd833646d
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/202...fully-approved-and-does-it-matter-if-they-are

I guess a counter to this one is: if you get infected while waiting for the approval, doesn't that defeat the purpose of your concern?

 

[gmase]

So to continue my "exercise", here's one heard from another coworker:

"I'm waiting for vaccine to get full approval"

I guess a counter to this one is: if you get infected while waiting for the approval, doesn't that defeat the purpose of your concern?

Yes it does.

Ask ‘What do you think will change once it gets full approval?’


The other side of the coin for unapproved procedures: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/page/medical-tourism

 

[tvstrip]

Or at this point, if there is some concern with the vaccines, given how many people have gotten them, you can be assured there will be an even greater effort to fix it. If such a concern even materializes. I could see the issue if your only options were sinopharm or sputnik, but if you're going with the big 4, I'd would be pretty confident.

To put this in more context, the co-worker who said this actually just returned from a 15-day sick leave from being infected with COVID. And she STILL isn't on planning on getting the vaccine until it's approved, and she's still not advocating for others like her to get the jab. I'm guessing she feels that now she's recovered, she's immune, but IIRC you can still get infected, especially from the variants.

 

[Luxman]

A Grim Warning from Israel: Vaccination Blunts, but Does not Defeat Delta
Israel, which has led the world in launching vaccinations and in data gathering, is confronting a surge of COVID-19 cases that officials expect to push hospitals to the brink. Nearly 60% of gravely ill patients are fully vaccinated.

https://portside.org/2021-08-17/grim-warning-israel-vaccination-blunts-does-not-defeat-delta

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Anybody know anything specifically about the densely populated Gaza Strip on how they have done with COVID tests and vaccinations?

 

[tvstrip]

Anybody know anything specifically about the densely populated Gaza Strip on how they have done with COVID tests and vaccinations?

You would hope that Israel is supporting those efforts, if anything, because an outbreak there will hit them the hardest.

 

[gmase]

Anybody know anything specifically about the densely populated Gaza Strip on how they have done with COVID tests and vaccinations?

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...a-dramatic-surge-in-new-covid-cases-heres-why

Point 5 of the article is pertinent.

A WHO official in the Palestinian areas: As for the low rate of vaccination in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, "we don't have a shortage of vaccine. It is the hesitancy,"

 

[Luxman]

Melissa Joan Hart Reveals Breakthrough COVID-19 Diagnosis Despite Being Fully Vaccinated | THR News

Why can't we post instagram videos with the Insert Media option???
https://www.instagram.com/p/CSuyivyFZQa/


Why doesn't Trump tell his ignorant followers to wear masks and get vaccinated? Because he's an evil ahole!!!
Evil ahole Trump probably gets a vaccine booster shot every month from the stash of vaccines he stole while he was president.

Tennessee COVID hospitalizations continue to grow amid hospital staffing concerns

 

[gmase]

Why doesn't Trump tell his ignorant followers to wear masks and get vaccinated?

He did in Alabama and got booed.

I like the strategy - supporting vaccines could help him lose part of his base.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...y-boos-trump-after-he-tells-supporters-to-get

Even Greg Abbott is on board with vaccines:
"I am told that my infection was brief and mild because of the vaccination I received. So I encourage others who have not yet received the vaccination to consider getting one,"

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

Well I don't know about the rest of you but I have started to wear masks again in public when indoors. In my lack of health condition Covid would be a death sentence almost for sure. Plus having three under age 12 grandsons that I am very found of has made me more cautions. Just my thought.

 

[gmase]

Well I don't know about the rest of you but I have started to wear masks again in public when indoors. In my lack of health condition Covid would be a death sentence almost for sure. Plus having three under age 12 grandsons that I am very found of has made me more cautions. Just my thought.

Prudent thoughts. A couple weeks ago (maybe a few by now) I started wearing a mask again in indoor public settings - grocery store typically.

Better safe than sorry.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Well I don't know about the rest of you but I have started to wear masks again in public when indoors. In my lack of health condition Covid would be a death sentence almost for sure. Plus having three under age 12 grandsons that I am very found of has made me more cautions. Just my thought.

Do whatever makes you feel more safe and comfortable. That is your right. Good luck with your health. Enjoy those 12 grandsons for many decades to come and become a great grandfather as well.

 

[Luxman]

Well I don't know about the rest of you but I have started to wear masks again in public when indoors. In my lack of health condition Covid would be a death sentence almost for sure. Plus having three under age 12 grandsons that I am very found of has made me more cautions. Just my thought.

I have been wearing a mask at indoor public places since April 2020.
I never stopped wearing masks indoors even with other people who were vaccinated.
Even fully vaccinated people can get infected and get sick and infect other people.
Until Covid gets eliminated like polio, wearing masks will be part of our lives for at least a few more years.
Only when people stop dying from covid will we have reached the turning point.
For centuries in Asian countries, sick people have worn masks so they don't infect other people.
At first it was mandatory, but it's mainly out of common sense courtesy.

 

[Pornfan99]

50 health care workers across three hospitals wrote a FOUR page letter / advertisement, urging folks to get vaccinated:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oregon-doctors-emotional-plea-unvaccinated-124138782.html

Thing is - I've seen other articles with health care workers that are burnt out. I saw one recently about an ER or ICU HC professional that is transferring into a back-office role, because she can't take the pain / suffering / death any more..

 

[gmase]

50 health care workers across three hospitals wrote a FOUR page letter / advertisement, urging folks to get vaccinated:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oregon-doctors-emotional-plea-unvaccinated-124138782.html

Thing is - I've seen other articles with health care workers that are burnt out. I saw one recently about an ER or ICU HC professional that is transferring into a back-office role, because she can't take the pain / suffering / death any more..

That is becoming all too frequent.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

For centuries in Asian countries, sick people have worn masks so they don't infect other people.
At first it was mandatory, but it's mainly out of common sense courtesy.

I used to walk to Westwood Village and see all these Asians wearing masks. I was wondering if they were sick or if they thought I was. Now I know.

If wearing a mask makes you feel safer and more comfortable then go for it. If you are to err err on the side of safety. When I worked security my co-workers thought of me as paranoid but I thought of myself as proactive. Some like Iron Fist, some like Iron Mask, but everybody likes Iron Maiden.

 

[Theopolis Q. Hossenffer]

The one thing(of many) about anti vaxxers and covid deniers is the ones who attack(sometimes physically) those who choose to wear a mask. Or gloves, or? None of their fucking business. period. If any SOB tries to pull the mask off my face he/she will find a cane has other uses.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

You still shopping for that sword cane or are you presently able to make a Karen Popsicle?