*2020 US Presidential Elections* - Candidates, Statistics, Campaign Timelines, Debates

John_8581

FreeOnes Lifetime Member
How generous of Trump to leave once Biden is declared the winner. Has any president done this before?
https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...s-going-to-be-a-very-hard-to-thing-to-concede

Commenting on the voting infrastructure in the U.S. Trump said, “We are like a third world country.”

Four years ago it was fine. Now?
Never in the United States. However, maybe in Africa and/or in South America? And if so, they've may have done it also from exile. For example, the Shah of Iran, President of Burundi or the President of Haiti, etc. etc.

The first thing that President Biden and First Lady Jill Biden should do is have the Secret Service check the Master Bedroom, the Oval Office and other areas of the White House. Go though it like a fine tooth comb. Have the place cleaned out for bugging equipment, in telephones, for tape recorders, wires, microphones, etc. and other incendiary devices.

Like Governor Andrew Cuomo said, "You just can't trust this President."
 
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Luxman

#TRE45ON

gmase

On the dark side of the moon
Trump is going to "poison the well", out of evil spite, so that Democrats have more problems to deal with and possibly fail, to give Ahole Trump a better chance of winning in 2024, but hopefully republicans won't stupidly nominate him again.

Trump's 'minions are working hard right now to poison the well'
https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2020/nov/18/jimmy-kimmel-trump-late-night-tv
Biden can take the Trump road and blame everything on his predecessor. Then declare the need for an extra term because the first one was fucked up.
 

gmase

On the dark side of the moon
Didn't someone say during the summer that Trump was a winner and always wins? He is one big Loser.

https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...-campaign-loses-appeal-over-pennsylvania-race

From the court decision (written by Republican appointees):
“Calling an election unfair does not make it so ... Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”

“Voters, not lawyers, choose the president ... Ballots, not briefs, decide elections. … Alchemy cannot transmute lead into gold.”
 
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John_8581

FreeOnes Lifetime Member
Nothing to worry about Joe Biden fans ...
Didn't someone say during the summer that Trump was a winner and always wins? He is one big Loser.

https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...-campaign-loses-appeal-over-pennsylvania-race

From the court decision (written by Republican appointees):
“Calling an election unfair does not make it so ... Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”

“Voters, not lawyers, choose the president ... Ballots, not briefs, decide elections. … Alchemy cannot transmute lead into gold.”
Chief Justice John Roberts at this point will probably not want this entire mess invading the U.S. Supreme Court. He wants to keep his distance from the Trump campaign's legal squabbles.

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/...mp-election-lawsuits-time-running-out-2020-11

This is an interesting article from Alan Dershowitz back on November 9, 2020. Mr. Dershowitz is an expert in Constitutional law. Though at the end of the story, he says that the Trump campaign needs evidence. It is going to be very difficult to overturn one state's electoral college let alone many others.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...nt-trump-win-his-election-challenges-in-court

And so far, we've seen that the Trump campaign has proven that they just don't have that evidence nor will the courts' decisions change many of the outcomes here. The courts say that they can't disenfranchise millions of voters. Thus, those states will stay under Joseph Biden.

Now lastly, the big question. You have to be an approved trial attorney of counsel to appear before the justices in the High Court.

I don't think that any of the "Elite Strike Force" qualifies. :LOL:

Do you think Rudy Giuliani is? Jenna Ellis? No way. Maybe "the socially distanced" Syndey Powell? That weirdo? She'd probably lose it (Just like Captain Queeg in The Caine Mutiny) -- the moment Associate Justice Sonia Sotomayor asks her a question. There is Sydney Powell. Going off on tangents once again. The ramblings of a lunatic.

(Thank God, President Trump pardoned Michael Flynn. Having Powell represent him would have definitely been a losing day in Federal Court. Michael Flynn, with Sydney Powell as his lawyer, may have been put to death for treason.)

... My apologies truly go out to Joe DiGenova. Why, he ever got involved? That remains a mystery. That's truly terrible. Maybe he'll resign beforehand like so many others.
 
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gmase

On the dark side of the moon
In case anyone cares about Dick Morris' opinion: https://www.newsmax.com/politics/dickmorris-trump-election-voterfraud/2020/11/28/id/999110/

Arizona would be the most difficult state for Trump to win, but Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia, the "fraud was very blatant and well planned well in advance,' said Morris. "Pennsylvania prepared for the fraud by illegally extending that time you had to vote to 3 days after the election day, clearly in violation of the Constitution and state law," he added.​

I didn't realize PA extended the voting time. That was news to me. :)
 

John_8581

FreeOnes Lifetime Member
In case anyone cares about Dick Morris' opinion: https://www.newsmax.com/politics/dickmorris-trump-election-voterfraud/2020/11/28/id/999110/

Arizona would be the most difficult state for Trump to win, but Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia, the "fraud was very blatant and well planned well in advance,' said Morris. "Pennsylvania prepared for the fraud by illegally extending that time you had to vote to 3 days after the election day, clearly in violation of the Constitution and state law," he added.​

I didn't realize PA extended the voting time. That was news to me. :)
No I don't care.

Pennsylvania didn't extend the voting time. As long as the post mark was made November 3, 2020. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled earlier and allowed mail-in ballots through November 6, 2020. That was another losing case for the Trump campaign. That's why that postal worker, Richard Hopkins in Erie County recanted the allegations of ballot tampering. The Erie County Postmaster Robert Weisenbach set the record straight. Hopkins supposedly overheard a conversation. The courts have ruled the Hopkins affidavit hearsay and moot. There are even concerns that Hopkins may have even lied to postal investigators.

On Nov. 10, the Erie Times-News reviewed 129 mail-in ballot envelopes that were postmarked Nov. 3, which was Election Day, but arrived at the Erie County Board of Elections after that. Election officials oversaw the review, according to the newspaper. Of those 129 ballots, only two were processed through the Erie facility, the newspaper reported.

“A bulk of the ballots were processed at various [postal service] locations across the state and the country, from places as far west as Tacoma, Washington, and as far south as Florida,” the newspaper reported. Those voters were registered in Erie County, but were out of town for any number of reasons, including for work or college.

“Not only did the Erie Times-News review find that only two late-arriving ballots processed at the Erie postal facility have a Nov. 3 postmark,” the story said, “but it also found that nine late ballots processed in Erie were postmarked Nov. 4 or later.”


Further undercutting Hopkins’ claim is audio from the interview conducted with him by postal investigators after the initial Project Veritas video. Hopkins secretly recorded the interview (he revealed to the agents that he had been recording it at the end), and Project Veritas posted it on YouTube.

And they say you can't lose your job being in a civil service role?

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/11/pennsylvania-postal-worker-waffles-on-election-fraud-claim/

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Dick Morris is a political strategist? More like a puppet for the Trump campaign ...

In Pennsylvania, he says, "Equal protection under the law"? That's hard to fathom. You can't deny the ballots of an entire populace. As for allegations of fraud, both Republican and Democratic Party members had ample opportunity to observe the count. It's just that Trump's campaign wasn't allowed in there to observe, which is proper.

As ex-Governor Chris Christie, a former U.S. Prosecutor said, "They (the Trump campaign) claim fraud on the outside in press conferences, yet they don't argue it in court. He also called the President's legal team a national embarrassment."

... And Dick Morris is a well known author too. Who does he write books for? Theodor Seuss Geisel? He must write plenty of fiction.

It is amazing what political pundits will say to get air time.
 
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gmase

On the dark side of the moon
Is Maria Bartiromo joining Kayleigh and Kellyanne?

Re: Today's 'interview' (phone call) with Trump
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...gations-during-first-interview-since-election
Trump: "This is total fraud. And how the FBI, and Department of Justice — I don't know, maybe they're involved — but how people are allowed to get away with this is stuff is unbelievable. This election was rigged. This election was a total fraud ... All I can say, is: With all of the fraud that's taken place, nobody has come to me and said, ‘Oh, the FBI has nabbed the people that are doing this scheme.’”​
The Department of Justice ... is “missing in action.”​
He also charged news media and social media companies with ignoring what he said was the worst political scandal in American history, and alleged, again with no evidence, that ballots were requested in the names of dead people, and that “many mailmen are in trouble for selling ballots.” He accused two leading Republicans in Georgia, Gov. Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, of failing to properly administer the election. “I’m sorry I endorsed him,” Trump said of Kemp.​

The DOJ and FBI involved in the fraud? They haven't nabbed anyone because it didn't happen.

Priceless: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ction-results-trump-king-george-b1763487.html
Of the ensuing legal strategy, a senior administration [official] told the paper that the theory was: "Just roll everybody up who is willing to do it into a clown car, and when it’s time for a press conference, roll them out."​
Only one clown car?

Finally: Donald Trump on election night was like "Mad King George, muttering, 'I won. I won. I won,' "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...f45226-2f47-11eb-96c2-aac3f162215d_story.html
 
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gmase

On the dark side of the moon
The WaPo article is a great synopsis of the past 3 weeks.

I've read this before, but it always get a chuckle from me:
For example, the Trump campaign argued in federal court in Philadelphia two days after the election to stop the count because Republican observers had been barred. Under sharp questioning from Judge Paul S. Diamond, however, campaign lawyers conceded that Trump in fact had “a nonzero number of people in the room,” leaving Diamond audibly exasperated.

“I’m sorry, then what’s your problem?” Diamond asked.
 
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John_8581

FreeOnes Lifetime Member
So President Donald Trump ... He is a clown. And a sore loser!

Smokey Robinson and the Miracles :)


Most definitely.
 
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gmase

On the dark side of the moon
... My apologies truly go out to Joe DiGenova. Why, he ever got involved? That remains a mystery. That's truly terrible. Maybe he'll resign beforehand like so many others.
He looks like he's wondering why he got involved too:

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John_8581

FreeOnes Lifetime Member
Is Maria Bartiromo joining Kayleigh and Kellyanne?

Re: Today's 'interview' (phone call) with Trump
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...gations-during-first-interview-since-election
Trump: "This is total fraud. And how the FBI, and Department of Justice — I don't know, maybe they're involved — but how people are allowed to get away with this is stuff is unbelievable. This election was rigged. This election was a total fraud ... All I can say, is: With all of the fraud that's taken place, nobody has come to me and said, ‘Oh, the FBI has nabbed the people that are doing this scheme.’”​
The Department of Justice ... is “missing in action.”​
He also charged news media and social media companies with ignoring what he said was the worst political scandal in American history, and alleged, again with no evidence, that ballots were requested in the names of dead people, and that “many mailmen are in trouble for selling ballots.” He accused two leading Republicans in Georgia, Gov. Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, of failing to properly administer the election. “I’m sorry I endorsed him,” Trump said of Kemp.​

The DOJ and FBI involved in the fraud? They haven't nabbed anyone because it didn't happen.

Priceless: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ction-results-trump-king-george-b1763487.html
Of the ensuing legal strategy, a senior administration told the paper that the theory was: "Just roll everybody up who is willing to do it into a clown car, and when it’s time for a press conference, roll them out.​
Only one clown car?

Finally: Donald Trump on election night was like "Mad King George, muttering, 'I won. I won. I won,' "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...f45226-2f47-11eb-96c2-aac3f162215d_story.html

The President sounds more and more each day like Peter Sinfield's character.

And later sung by Greg Lake while Robert Fripp, he, Ian McDonald and Mike Giles were in King Crimson ...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21st_Century_Schizoid_Man
 

gmase

On the dark side of the moon
This is too funny:
Milwaukee County, [WI's] other big and overwhelmingly liberal county targeted in a recount that Trump paid for, reported its results Friday, a 132-vote gain for Biden.

Biden says "Thank you sir"
 

John_8581

FreeOnes Lifetime Member
Joe DiGenova would probably be the attorney who would best represent President Trump before the Supreme Court should this matter make its way to the High Court. Both he and his wife, Victoria Toensing are both experts in Constitutional law and are both highly respected as attorneys. Though they both do tend to be on the Conservative side more so than not especially when commenting and dealing with the media.
He looks like he's wondering why he got involved too:
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Theopolis Q. Hossenffer

I am in America, not of it.
.." My apologies truly go out to Joe DiGenova. Why, he ever got involved? That remains a mystery. That's truly terrible. Maybe he'll resign beforehand like so many others."
John8581

Must have seemed like a good idea at the time. Or maybe the lure of money? Or hoping for a bump in his reputation?
 
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