*2024 US Presidential Elections* - Candidates, Statistics, Campaign Timelines, Debates

[John_8581]

Springfield OH is on its second day of receiving bomb threats.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...hreat-schools-closed-eating-pets-trump-vance/

// still in Springfield OH
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4874800-nathan-clark-trump-vance-immigration/amp/
A father wishes his son’s death would stop being used as a political prop for anti-immigration candidates. A Haitian immigrant caused a bus accident which killed their son. The dad wishes a 60-year old white guy caused the accident. In 2023, the US had ~41,000 motor vehicle deaths.

So if Donald Trump takes J.D. Vance off the ticket. He loses Ohio. That's clear as day. Plus it's too late in the campaign to do anything. The best comparison? That would be like George McGovern with Thomas Eagleton in 1972. It would be political suicide.

 

[georges]

https://www.westernjournal.com/newl...kamala-harris-repeatedly-yelling-deportation/ when you have people like Al Sharpton and Jussie Smolett who are well known for their double standards and their usual race baiting, it shows clearly on which side of the fence, the presidential canditate is

 

[maildude99]

https://www.westernjournal.com/newl...kamala-harris-repeatedly-yelling-deportation/ when you have people like Al Sharpton and Jussie Smolett who are well known for their double standards and their usual race baiting, it shows clearly on which side of the fence, the presidential canditate is

 

[gmase]

https://www.westernjournal.com/newl...kamala-harris-repeatedly-yelling-deportation/ when you have people like Al Sharpton and Jussie Smolett who are well known for their double standards and their usual race baiting, it shows clearly on which side of the fence, the presidential canditate is

Whoa, wait … good thing there are no clips anywhere of Trump flip flopping. I bet it would take me hours searching the internet to find just a single case of it. 🤷‍♂️

When the wind changes, it is always good to adjust your sails.

Thank you for bringing the Western Journal back to the forum. I missed their biased opinions. No mention of Trump calling Mark Robinson greater than MLK Jr. though.

 

[georges]

Whoa, wait … good thing there are no clips anywhere of Trump flip flopping. I bet it would take me hours searching the internet to find just a single case of it. 🤷‍♂️

When the wind changes, it is always good to adjust your sails.

Thank you for bringing the Western Journal back to the forum. I missed their biased opinions. No mention of Trump calling Mark Robinson greater than MLK Jr. though.

You want to talk about bias , fine I have something for you

 

[gmase]

You posted that earlier @ #128
https://www.freeones.com/forums/thr...mpaign-timelines-debates.998668/post-11621295

For the record: Your chart listed The Hill in the center column - not on the left.

Balanced consumption is necessary.

 

[Supafly]

Polls, and what is their bias, or can we even find some almost unbiased ones? So hard to tell.

Yet I believe that - too late for rational strategies - the race is running away from Trump. Yet, of course, I am biased.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/

+2.7%, that is still very close, but I suspect the Trump team will pull some late moves that will severely damage his chances.

 

[Supafly]

I think polls are artificially biased to keep the race close, to push higher attention and, thus, sales revenue. I think Trump benefits right now, because in reality, he is becoming more and more of a joke and a fascist threat. Funny mix, almost like a Mel brooks movie character:

As a German, he warms my heart!

 

[tvstrip]

September is over! So the big question:

What do you think the "October Surprise" is going to be this year? Nothing is too wacky!!

 

[gmase]

Pictures from Willie Brown’s private archives will be released.

 

[gmase]

More likely scenarios would involve:

• Ukraine;
• Israel-Gaza-Lebanon-Iran;
• A protracted strike by the longshoremen

 

[tvstrip]

Could you elaborate? I'm not sure what could happen where something involving those 2 things would have an impact.

Ukraine;

Maybe putsky does something drastic which drags NATO into the war. In that case, Harris could benefit from tump's bad blood with NATO.

• Israel-Gaza-Lebanon-Iran;

Both are pro-isreali so I feel that whatever happens will affect both candidates the same.

 

[tvstrip]

Why can't the pres debates be more like the VP debates?

Granted, it's not as exciting and less meme-worthy, but at least it sounds like a civil debate.

 

[Torre82]

Why can't the pres debates be more like the VP debates?

Granted, it's not as exciting and less meme-worthy, but at least it sounds like a civil debate.

They were so peaceful. They agreed on things. They actually made eye contact.
It was a far cry from the prez stuff, which was a shitshow, IMO.
Trump was on the defensive and Kamface was just stringing it along as a free commercial advert.

But. Eh. I'd rather the two VP's form a 'centrist' party and just share the responsibility. Young/old/left/right.

 

[gmase]

But. Eh. I'd rather the two VP's form a 'centrist' party and just share the responsibility. Young/old/left/right.

Funny. Neither are very centrist though. Vance is the proverbial wolf in sheep’s clothing. He has been talking about the need to take ‘extra-constitutional’ measures on right-wing podcasts.

 

[gmase]

Why can't the pres debates be more like the VP debates?

Granted, it's not as exciting and less meme-worthy, but at least it sounds like a civil debate.

Liars who are civil are still liars. Vance was peddling snake oil in a very polite manner. The same stuff Trump is selling in an angry manner.

Could you elaborate? I'm not sure what could happen where something involving those 2 things would have an impact.


Maybe putsky does something drastic which drags NATO into the war. In that case, Harris could benefit from tump's bad blood with NATO.



Both are pro-isreali so I feel that whatever happens will affect both candidates the same.

How about some peace breaking out? If either conflict can be stopped for some time, it would come off as a diplomatic coup for the current administration. Trump wants the conflict to continue as a campaign point. Think back to Nixon’s meddling with Vietnam in 1968 - the Chennault Affair.

 

[Torre82]

Funny. Neither are very centrist though. Vance is the proverbial wolf in sheep’s clothing. He has been talking about the need to take ‘extra-constitutional’ measures on right-wing podcasts.

Two opposites meet in the middle. If it doesnt happen at the top, it'll happen in the house or the senate or .. etc, etc.

It never QUITE works out, which is why, IMO, it'd be nice to let the two top guys share the responsibility.

But yeah, I know. Isnt gonna happen. Red or blue takes the whole thing and the other side 'cockblocks' the bills on the floor and things are lucky to get enacted. Ad nauseum politics.

 

[tvstrip]

How about some peace breaking out? If either conflict can be stopped for some time, it would come off as a diplomatic coup for the current administration. Trump wants the conflict to continue as a campaign point. Think back to Nixon’s meddling with Vietnam in 1968 - the Chennault Affair.

On that note:

Biden: 'I don't know' if Netanyahu is trying to sway US election​

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cje3zl0dq2ko

Some Democrats have voiced concern that Netanyahu is ignoring the US president's calls to negotiate a ceasefire and hostage release deal in order to harm the party's chances in November.
Earlier this week, Democratic Senator Chris Murphy told CNN: “I don’t think you have to be a hopeless cynic to read some of Israel’s actions, some of Prime Minister Netanyahu’s actions, as connected to the American election."
Polls suggest the escalating violence in the Middle East and the failure to secure a diplomatic agreement is hurting Biden and his replacement as the Democratic candidate, Kamala Harris.

You're 100% right that a peace deal would be a HUGE win for the current admin. But from these comments, it seems like that's not going to happen.

If bibi is actually prolonging the war the influence the US election, that's just level of dumbfuckery beyond what a sane human should be capable of. I'd say that's even worse than a Hamas terrorist.

 

[georges]

On that note:

Biden: 'I don't know' if Netanyahu is trying to sway US election​

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cje3zl0dq2ko



You're 100% right that a peace deal would be a HUGE win for the current admin. But from these comments, it seems like that's not going to happen.

If bibi is actually prolonging the war the influence the US election, that's just level of dumbfuckery beyond what a sane human should be capable of. I'd say that's even worse than a Hamas terrorist.

Bibi is right kill the Hamas and the Hezbollah terrorists till the last one and let none survive. Bibi gives zero fucks about Biden because for him is a senile dolt and he is right. Biden's foreign policy has been an absolute mess since day one fucked up evacuation from Afghanistan and many other things which the Biden admùinistration is totally acountable for unlike Trump's presidency foreign policy thanks to whom the Abraham peace talks have been signed and at least you didn't have the situation you have know.

Even CNN questions Biden reactions which are hurting Kamala https://www.westernjournal.com/bide...drops-big-take-joe-keeps-kamala-within-reach/

Also Tim Walz's vice presidential debate performance has been very poor, I am not the one saying it but a MSNBC panelist points it out clearly
https://www.westernjournal.com/msnb...own-tim-walzs-debate-disaster-stop-stop-stop/

Add this another scandal to the list of Tim Walz's scandals
https://www.westernjournal.com/cnn-...leases-blistering-segment-big-scandals-state/

Can you win with a president which putting sticks wheels in his vice president running his candidate and with a loose cannon as potential? Sorry to say I told you so but no you can't.

 

[gmase]

Can you win with a president which putting sticks wheels in his vice president running his candidate and with a loose cannon as potential? Sorry to say I told you so but no you can't.

What does this even mean?

Nixon got elected with Spiro Agnew; Bush 41 had Dan "You're No John Kennedy" Quayle.

By the way, who you voting for?