*2020 US Presidential Elections* - Candidates, Statistics, Campaign Timelines, Debates

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
Another game of "Was the Teleprompter On or Off?"

Trump on Wednesday: “Get rid of the ballots and you’ll have a very peaceful, there won't be a transfer, frankly, there will be a continuation,” Trump said. “The ballots are out of control. You know it and you know who knows it better than anyone else? The Democrats know it better than anyone else.”

Get rid of the ballots?
 

Theopolis Q. Hossenffer

I have no opinion
Another game of "Was the Teleprompter On or Off?"

Trump on Wednesday: “Get rid of the ballots and you’ll have a very peaceful, there won't be a transfer, frankly, there will be a continuation,” Trump said. “The ballots are out of control. You know it and you know who knows it better than anyone else? The Democrats know it better than anyone else.”

Get rid of the ballots?
From the mouths of Babes...
 
Let's talk about voter fraud which is important in an election
Texas AG busts 'organized mail ballot fraud,' 134 Felony charges announced
https://www.westernjournal.com/texa...urnal&ats_es=4d2520a7c1a015afe226b01322ab3014

US Attorney: Military ballots found discarded in PA, most were cast for Trump
https://www.westernjournal.com/us-a...f_campaign=dailypm&ff_content=western-journal

Will your mail ballot count in the Presidential Election? It may depend on who's counting and where
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/m...=DM149579_09252020&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502jb89rk

Now more about polls
Emerson Poll: Trump Closes on Biden, Race Within 4
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/em...=DM149579_09252020&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502jb89rk

Poll Shows Tight Races In Iowa, Texas, Georgia
https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/24/...spid=1fE9raIBWRaNBA1UPADCzdfmQKrfqQgYx.75F_.9
 
We all know you're lying, but do you? The impeachment wasn't a hoax, it was based on clear evidence that would have destroyed a decent presidency. Even republicans admit that he broke the law, before they violated their oath to uphold the constitution and acquitted him.

The impeachment charge was legitimate, he was acquitted by a corrupt senate that refused to even hold the trial. But you keep carrying that water, it shows everybody here what your word is worth.
This impeachment was based on fraudulous scam made by the minions of the Obama administration. The fact that the whole Mueller team deleted the data on their cell phones is enough a sign of huge dishonesty and untrustworthiness but also a proof of absolute lack of ethics and professionalism that can lead to a judicial pursuit. The Steele dossier was a forgery that the Democrats used to but the blame on Trump with beyond despicable and phony lies and accusations. Name me please one Republican congressman or senator who admitted that Trump broke the law and that Republicans violated their oath. Aside Never Trumpers, not a single Republican would have admitted it. The impeachment charge was based on bs and lies from the high ranking Obama officials who all did and were all involved in the collusion. This is just as simple as it gets.
 

Steve-FreeOnes

FO Admin / "selfish idiot mod" (he/they)
Staff member
Let's talk about voter fraud which is important in an election

Go on then.

Posting a raft of links to right-wing news sources isn't talking about anything, is it? If you want to have a discussion then you have to initiate that discussion. We can all sit here all day throwing links from right and left at each other, but ultimately nothing gets discussed. Links are supposed to be a jumping-off point for a discussion or there to strengthen / prove your view or standpoint. But that's not what you do. You want to talk about voter fraud? Talk about it. Otherwise, what's the point?
 
Go on then.

Posting a raft of links to right-wing news sources isn't talking about anything, is it? If you want to have a discussion then you have to initiate that discussion. We can all sit here all day throwing links from right and left at each other, but ultimately nothing gets discussed. Links are supposed to be a jumping-off point for a discussion or there to strengthen / prove your view or standpoint. But that's not what you do. You want to talk about voter fraud? Talk about it. Otherwise, what's the point?
Voter fraud is when mail in ballots are not counted or some ballots are sent into trash as posted in the links. Mail in voting isn't reliable and it has been proven. Even democrats see that it is backfiring them.Mail in person is definitely more trustworthy, because the person casts her ballot and shows her id. This is what makes the whole difference when voting. For instance in France, for every election, you have to show your ID card and then you are allowed to cast your ballot.
 

Steve-FreeOnes

FO Admin / "selfish idiot mod" (he/they)
Staff member
Voter fraud is when mail in ballots are not counted or some ballots are sent into trash as posted in the links. Mail in voting isn't reliable and it has been proven. Even democrats see that it is backfiring them.Mail in person is definitely more trustworthy, because the person casts her ballot and shows her id. This is what makes the whole difference when voting. For instance in France, for every election, you have to show your ID card and then you are allowed to cast your ballot.

Was that hard? Do this more, please.
 

Theopolis Q. Hossenffer

I have no opinion
Regarding the primary ballots in the trash, so far all that has ben discovered that I read is a temp accidently tossed them out by accident. And was fired. Politico has this story and NPR has a similar one.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/...investigation-baffles-election-experts-421541

The problem with the massive explosion caused by seeing everything as a conspiracy is the fact that the simple matter of many more fuckups than conspiracies' exist.
 
The story I've heard from multiple sources is that the mail in ballot envelopes looked an awful lot like mail in ballot request envelopes, and were accidentally opened by a contractor. Due to a recent court case by the trump administration, despite the fact that those ballots were still in their concealment envelopes, they were no longer allowed to be counted, and had to be discarded by law.

The real story is the DOJ once again coming out for trump and revealing details about a case currently under investigation, with the intent of affecting an election outcome, violating 2 pretty big policies.
From the politico article above:

“It is hard to express how illegitimate the press release is. That’s the problem,” Justin Levitt, a professor at Loyola Law School, said in an interview, noting that it wasn’t necessarily bad that the department was investigating. It is really improper for DOJ to be putting out a press release with partial facts,” Levitt continued. “And it is career-endingly improper to designate the candidate for whom the votes are cast. There is no federal statute on which the identity of the preferred candidate depends.”

“This is both bizarre and disturbing — U.S. Attorney’s Offices don’t issue reports on pending investigations— and certainly not reports so blatantly contrived to provide political ballast for a sitting President’s campaign narrative,” David Laufman, a DOJ veteran, tweeted about the press release.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
Regarding the primary ballots in the trash, so far all that has ben discovered that I read is a temp accidently tossed them out by accident. And was fired. Politico has this story and NPR has a similar one.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/...investigation-baffles-election-experts-421541

The problem with the massive explosion caused by seeing everything as a conspiracy is the fact that the simple matter of many more fuckups than conspiracies' exist.
Bubb - Please stop with this common sense nonsense. You're ruining some good fake umbrage. :)

Your last sentence sums it up nicely: Human error is the cause of most error. Humans get too much credit for intentionally screwing up.
 

gmase

Nattering Nabob of Negativism
Trump avoids the precedent of releasing his tax returns. Then deflects to Biden not agreeing to a drug test prior to a debate.

What is he hiding?
 
Everything. Like I've said a hundred times, if trump's financial situation was anything to brag about, we all know he'd be bragging about it. Every business move he's ever made has been a failure.
 
Im excited for Gaffepalooza 2020 Biden Edition it's supposably being watched by 74% of voters like a car wreck is Joe going to have an earpiece that hs team can feed him words thru? Someone behind Chris Wallace giving him hanies? Chris Wallace giving em? Should be hindenburgish. Biden crashing. How long do these go6 that's a lot of time for Sleepy Joe to be on his feet and open eyes and talking even. Haha.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-trump-debate-preparation

“Quite frankly, the bar has been lowered so much for Joe Biden that if he stays awake for the whole thing it’s like maybe he won.”

- Lara Trump daughter-in-law and advisor to the President
 
Biden works out, goes running and bike riding. trump can't walk down a slight decline. Nobody supporting this presidency has the right to talk about lowered bars.
 
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Theopolis Q. Hossenffer

I have no opinion
Bubb - Please stop with this common sense nonsense. You're ruining some good fake umbrage. :)

Your last sentence sums it up nicely: Human error is the cause of most error. Humans get too much credit for intentionally screwing up.
The Donald brings out my better side. Imagine how I will be if he gets 4,6,8, 10,000 years more.
 
Pretty weak and disappointing performance from both sides I thought. Two feeble old men shouting at each other on stage. How embarrassing for America.

Not for the first time I found myself thinking if they'd only nominated a Warren or a Buttigieg, this would be a massacre. Even the Joe that made paul ryan look like a bitch 8 years ago would have been fine.

I did, as I'm sure many other did too, enjoy Biden telling trump to shut up. I felt like that shut up belonged to all of us.
 
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