2009/2010 NCAA Football
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In a ten game conference schedule, you have to play 5 home and 5 away. To get to 7 home games a year, they would have to play both non conference games at home or live with 6 home games.
That would wipe out some great home and away match ups in the future including:
• Cal & Ohio State
• USC vs Minnesota, Notre Dame and Syracuse
• Arizona vs Iowa and Oklahoma St
• Arizona St vs Notre Dame and LSU
• Oregon vs Georgia, Kansas St and Tennessee
That would wipe out some great home and away match ups in the future including:
• Cal & Ohio State
• USC vs Minnesota, Notre Dame and Syracuse
• Arizona vs Iowa and Oklahoma St
• Arizona St vs Notre Dame and LSU
• Oregon vs Georgia, Kansas St and Tennessee
Hmm. smoknn just responded to somebody. Better get my glasses and figure out what he said...
That post just set the Gold Standard for the new decade going forward.
Perfection. And awesomely fucking funny!
"Theoretical USC schedule under Super Max Expansion scenario"
Year 1
Home Southern Div games: Arizona, Cal, Hawai'i, BYU
Away Southern Div games: ucla, Arizona St, UNLV or SDSU
Home Northern Div games: Colorado, Stanford
Away Northern Div game: Oregon
Home OOC: Notre Dame
Away OOC: Ohio State (Ohio State would have to agree to return game to LA the following year or within 3 years?)
Home Southern Div games: ucla, Arizona St, UNLV or SDSU (3 games)
Away Southern Div games: Arizona, Cal, Hawai'i, BYU (4 games)
Home Northern Div games: Oregon, Washington
Away Northern Div game: Colorado
Home OOC: Ohio State
Away OOC: Notre Dame
In my example, you're right, every off year would require 6 home games because of unbalanced away Southern Division games.
I think such large expansion like this might be tough to deal with in terms of there could be a year where we might never see a Washington or Oregon school...:dunno: That would suck. Also in my example, USC is on the hook for traveling to Stanford.
I know in the past Pac 10, (in the 90s) there were years where we didn't play a particular team or because of quirks, we would travel to an opponent for consecutive years instead of playing them in LA.....
But, it would have to work for all the $$$$$$ that would come in...:dunno:
If you look at USC’s schedule, over the two year period they play 11 home games and 9 away games. So somewhere else in the conference someone would have to play 9 home and 11 away to make up for it.
How can a conference put one member at such a disadvantage to give USC the advantage?
How can a conference put one member at such a disadvantage to give USC the advantage?
The Dual Divisions and Conference Champ Game make a Unified Conference irrelevant. That's the point. Expanding to 16 teams means there's no way everyone plays everyone every year. I'm just saying expand to 16, get the tv network and grab as much $$$$ as possible by not bringing cupcakes in.
It will need to be thought out more. But the idea would be that everyone would get 11 home and 9 away, right?
It will need to be thought out more. But the idea would be that everyone would get 11 home and 9 away, right?
But in a conference, if someone goes 11-9 then someone must be 9-11.
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Then we're quibbling over the peas and missing the steak. However 10-10 must be acheived, given what I propose (which has no real chance of ever happening; the Pac10 is the last conference to do anything), it will be so. If a conference expands enough to create 2 separate divisions, the teams in those subdivisions should play each other before all other games, including those peer teams in the other subdivision and certainly over OOC matchups.
The Pac10 Conference Brass would have to set each school's conference schedule to best manage travel expenses so each school (theoretically) spends the same amount of money on travel. Each school will still choose their own OOC opponents.
Again, keeping this a Pac10 discussion only, I don't see the OOC issue being all that great if the expansion brings in quality teams like Colorado, Utah, Boise State, etc. I enjoy playing Notre Dame every year and traveling to South Bend every other year, but I'd also like the opportunity to play/beat Notre Dame in a bowl game too.
Maybe a new discussion that needs to occur as well is has the BCS era ushered in the reality that Automatic Conference Qualifiers and Bowl Tie-ins should come to an end? The bowl games should match the best teams period, rather than #2 Big 12 vs #4 SEC (for example) every year...:dunno:
Then we're quibbling over the peas and missing the steak. However 10-10 must be acheived, given what I propose (which has no real chance of ever happening; the Pac10 is the last conference to do anything), it will be so. If a conference expands enough to create 2 separate divisions, the teams in those subdivisions should play each other before all other games, including those peer teams in the other subdivision and certainly over OOC matchups.
The Pac10 Conference Brass would have to set each school's conference schedule to best manage travel expenses so each school (theoretically) spends the same amount of money on travel. Each school will still choose their own OOC opponents.
Again, keeping this a Pac10 discussion only, I don't see the OOC issue being all that great if the expansion brings in quality teams like Colorado, Utah, Boise State, etc. I enjoy playing Notre Dame every year and traveling to South Bend every other year, but I'd also like the opportunity to play/beat Notre Dame in a bowl game too.
Maybe a new discussion that needs to occur as well is has the BCS era ushered in the reality that Automatic Conference Qualifiers and Bowl Tie-ins should come to an end? The bowl games should match the best teams period, rather than #2 Big 12 vs #4 SEC (for example) every year...:dunno:
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Ok well all this minutiae y'all are fussing about is fine but we are on the eve of the BCS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME so that overshadows everything right now. Here's my take on the big game tomorrow for anyone who cares.....
Alabama wins if:
- They can successfully run the ball against the Texas defense.
- Greg McElroy doesn't suffer a meltdown and turn the ball over to the Texas secondary.
- The Alabama defense can shut down Texas' running game and put pressure on Colt McCoy to disrupt the Longhorn passing attack.
- The Alabama secondary can find a way to contain Jordan Shipley, Malcolm Williams, Dan Buckner, Marquise Goodwin, John Chiles and James Kirkendoll....the best receiving corps in college football.
Texas wins if:
- Their defense can contain Mark Ingram and force Alabama to throw the ball more than they want to.
- The Texas secondary can force some turnovers by McElroy.
- The Texas offensive line gives Colt McCoy enough time to set up in the pocket and find an open receiver. If he spends the night running for his life in the pass rush, the Longhorns are toast.
- The Longhorns can be at least reasonably effective at running the ball against the Alabama defense (good luck with that one, Mack).
Ultimately, this game comes down to which ever defense can shut down the other's offense and who wins the special teams/turnover battle. My prediction is it will be a close, tough, slobber-knocking defensive battle with Texas winning on a late Hunter Lawrence FG, 20-17. I will say that if it ends up being a blowout one way or the other, it is more likely that Alabama would blow Texas out than the other way around.
This game has some eerie comparisons to 2006 when we upset USC. 'Bama is the consensus pick to win, they have the Heisman Trophy winner, etc. I hope that the Alabama players are buying into all of their press clippings. If that happens and they come in complacent, Texas will take them out. If not....well, Alabama is a better team than Texas on paper so they should win. I'm thinking Texas pulls it off....at least I sure hope so. Hell, I bleed burnt orange so what else am I supposed to say?
I hope it's a good and entertaining game. We'll see who emerges victorious.
HOOK 'EM!!!!
Back me up, Will. I was there for your Sooners last year! :thumbsup:
Alabama wins if:
- They can successfully run the ball against the Texas defense.
- Greg McElroy doesn't suffer a meltdown and turn the ball over to the Texas secondary.
- The Alabama defense can shut down Texas' running game and put pressure on Colt McCoy to disrupt the Longhorn passing attack.
- The Alabama secondary can find a way to contain Jordan Shipley, Malcolm Williams, Dan Buckner, Marquise Goodwin, John Chiles and James Kirkendoll....the best receiving corps in college football.
Texas wins if:
- Their defense can contain Mark Ingram and force Alabama to throw the ball more than they want to.
- The Texas secondary can force some turnovers by McElroy.
- The Texas offensive line gives Colt McCoy enough time to set up in the pocket and find an open receiver. If he spends the night running for his life in the pass rush, the Longhorns are toast.
- The Longhorns can be at least reasonably effective at running the ball against the Alabama defense (good luck with that one, Mack).
Ultimately, this game comes down to which ever defense can shut down the other's offense and who wins the special teams/turnover battle. My prediction is it will be a close, tough, slobber-knocking defensive battle with Texas winning on a late Hunter Lawrence FG, 20-17. I will say that if it ends up being a blowout one way or the other, it is more likely that Alabama would blow Texas out than the other way around.
This game has some eerie comparisons to 2006 when we upset USC. 'Bama is the consensus pick to win, they have the Heisman Trophy winner, etc. I hope that the Alabama players are buying into all of their press clippings. If that happens and they come in complacent, Texas will take them out. If not....well, Alabama is a better team than Texas on paper so they should win. I'm thinking Texas pulls it off....at least I sure hope so. Hell, I bleed burnt orange so what else am I supposed to say?
I hope it's a good and entertaining game. We'll see who emerges victorious.
HOOK 'EM!!!!
Back me up, Will. I was there for your Sooners last year! :thumbsup:
Skyraider22
The One and Only Big Daddy
Just watched one of the better games of the bowl season I'm hoping the NC will be this good but I'm prettyy sure there will not be a lot of points scored I would think
Skyraider22
The One and Only Big Daddy
Bragging rights of the South I'm sure both teams are ready
TEXAS VS. ALABAMA: THE HISTORY
The Longhorns, who play Alabama for this season's national championship on Jan. 7, hold a 7-0-1 all-time lead in their series with the Crimson Tide:
Texas 14, Alabama 12
When: Jan. 1, 1982
The come-from-behind Cotton Bowl victory helped Texas finish 10-1-1 for the 1981 season. The Longhorns scored two fourth-quarter touchdowns to rally past the third-ranked Crimson Tide, a win punctuated by Robert Brewer's 30-yard quarterback draw for a touchdown, Terry Orr's 8-yard game-winning run and William Graham's late interception at the Texas 1-yard line.
Texas 17, Alabama 13
When: Jan. 1, 1973
Darrell Royal may have called his team 'average as a day's wash' before the 1972 season began, but Texas lost only once — a 27-0 shutout to Oklahoma — and ended with an upset over Alabama in the Cotton Bowl. Quarterback Alan Lowry scored on a 34-yard bootleg run with 4 minutes left to win the game.
Texas 21, Alabama 17
When: Jan. 1, 1965
In the first-ever major bowl game to be played at night, linebacker Tommy Nobis produced one of the most memorable plays in Texas history. He stopped 'Bama quarterback Joe Namath on fourth-and-inches at the goal line to preserve the Orange Bowl victory. Ernie Koy rushed for 113 yards to lead the Horns. And the upset over the undefeated Crimson Tide helped push Arkansas to the 1964 national championship.
Texas 3, Alabama 3
When: Dec. 17, 1960
Alabama came awfully close to winning the Bluebonnet Bowl when quarterback Bobby Skelton appeared to have scored, but referees nullified the touchdown by ruling he was down. Texas began the year ranked No. 4 by the Associated Press, but finished unranked after a 7-3-1 season.
Texas 27, Alabama 7
When: Jan. 1, 1948
In the final game of Bobby Layne's legendary Texas career, the Longhorns cruised past Alabama for a Sugar Bowl victory. The Longhorns scored three touchdowns thanks to Alabama miscues — a blocked punt, an interception and a fumble — and finished the year 10-1 and ranked fifth.
Texas 19, Alabama 10
When: Oct. 28, 1922
Alabama fumbled seven times — losing five — and the Longhorns held on to the win thanks to the play of Ivan Robertson and George Gardere, the grandfather of future Texas quarterback Peter Gardere.
Texas 20, Alabama 0
When: Nov. 13, 1915
For the second straight time, 'Bama failed to score against Texas. In a game played in heavy rain at Clark Field, Charlie Turner and Bert Walker scored on short runs before quarterback Clyde Littlefield's 53-yard scamper put the game away. Crimson Tide kicker W.T. Van de Graaf — who would go on to become Alabama's first All-American — missed three field goals.
Texas 10, Alabama 0
When: Nov. 19, 1902
In the only game of the series played in Tuscaloosa, Texas shut out Alabama in their first-ever meeting. The Longhorns scored twice, including a second-half touchdown run by John A. Jackson.
This is just a litttle something I found on goggle you guys may like Happy reading
TEXAS VS. ALABAMA: THE HISTORY
The Longhorns, who play Alabama for this season's national championship on Jan. 7, hold a 7-0-1 all-time lead in their series with the Crimson Tide:
Texas 14, Alabama 12
When: Jan. 1, 1982
The come-from-behind Cotton Bowl victory helped Texas finish 10-1-1 for the 1981 season. The Longhorns scored two fourth-quarter touchdowns to rally past the third-ranked Crimson Tide, a win punctuated by Robert Brewer's 30-yard quarterback draw for a touchdown, Terry Orr's 8-yard game-winning run and William Graham's late interception at the Texas 1-yard line.
Texas 17, Alabama 13
When: Jan. 1, 1973
Darrell Royal may have called his team 'average as a day's wash' before the 1972 season began, but Texas lost only once — a 27-0 shutout to Oklahoma — and ended with an upset over Alabama in the Cotton Bowl. Quarterback Alan Lowry scored on a 34-yard bootleg run with 4 minutes left to win the game.
Texas 21, Alabama 17
When: Jan. 1, 1965
In the first-ever major bowl game to be played at night, linebacker Tommy Nobis produced one of the most memorable plays in Texas history. He stopped 'Bama quarterback Joe Namath on fourth-and-inches at the goal line to preserve the Orange Bowl victory. Ernie Koy rushed for 113 yards to lead the Horns. And the upset over the undefeated Crimson Tide helped push Arkansas to the 1964 national championship.
Texas 3, Alabama 3
When: Dec. 17, 1960
Alabama came awfully close to winning the Bluebonnet Bowl when quarterback Bobby Skelton appeared to have scored, but referees nullified the touchdown by ruling he was down. Texas began the year ranked No. 4 by the Associated Press, but finished unranked after a 7-3-1 season.
Texas 27, Alabama 7
When: Jan. 1, 1948
In the final game of Bobby Layne's legendary Texas career, the Longhorns cruised past Alabama for a Sugar Bowl victory. The Longhorns scored three touchdowns thanks to Alabama miscues — a blocked punt, an interception and a fumble — and finished the year 10-1 and ranked fifth.
Texas 19, Alabama 10
When: Oct. 28, 1922
Alabama fumbled seven times — losing five — and the Longhorns held on to the win thanks to the play of Ivan Robertson and George Gardere, the grandfather of future Texas quarterback Peter Gardere.
Texas 20, Alabama 0
When: Nov. 13, 1915
For the second straight time, 'Bama failed to score against Texas. In a game played in heavy rain at Clark Field, Charlie Turner and Bert Walker scored on short runs before quarterback Clyde Littlefield's 53-yard scamper put the game away. Crimson Tide kicker W.T. Van de Graaf — who would go on to become Alabama's first All-American — missed three field goals.
Texas 10, Alabama 0
When: Nov. 19, 1902
In the only game of the series played in Tuscaloosa, Texas shut out Alabama in their first-ever meeting. The Longhorns scored twice, including a second-half touchdown run by John A. Jackson.
This is just a litttle something I found on goggle you guys may like Happy reading
Skyraider22
The One and Only Big Daddy
Well if he is I need not to know that.This game should tell the tell:hatsoff:
Skyraider22
The One and Only Big Daddy
Oh and just so you all know FSU wins hads fucking down
:scream:FSU FSU FSU FSU FSU FSU FSU :scream:
Skyraider22
The One and Only Big Daddy
What a true friend:hatsoff::glugglug:
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Go Texas vs. Alabama!!!!! (Sorry Bama... I have to support my Longhorns!)
http://www.deauxmalive.com/tgp/texas/
I used to be a quarterback..........................
....... let the jokes begin
Don't forget to vote for me in Miss Freeones! http://missfreeones.com/biography_Deauxma.html
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