We didn't win Korea, we certainly didn't win Viet Nam. I wouldn't call the first gulf war a victory, just a band aide, we had to reapply 10 years later. Had stormin Norman, been allowed to finish it all off, like we should have let Patton do, it would have been a win. We won nothing in Afghanistan, we accomplished nothing. The day after we left, the taliban was back, and the day after that, women were back to being less important then a dog. The sad part is, it's all our own fault, and a glaring proof, that the UN/NATO, are nothing more then benign military interventions, that accomplish nothing. You see, the wars we wage, are politically correct, and legally, and morally just. The problem is, that's not how you win a war. War is a savage, vile atrocity, that should never have to occur, and if that's how war was waged, maybe it would happen far less often, then it does. Not that I want to see that happen, but sometimes a hard lesson, leaves a lasting impression.