Sergeant in trouble for Playboy spread

Not read any of the thread!

Just giving my point of view on this subject in general, not just this case.

Question is it alright for a shop worker, office worker, hair dresser, etc to pose nude ?
Most people will answer yes to this.
So why is there so much fuss over a soldier, police person, etc to do the same. After all they are still adults that a man will admire for their beauty if its a man. Or a woman will admire if its a man doing the posing. Somebody most people might be undressing with their mind anyway.

I can't see in what way it will effect them from doing their jobs. As if it isn't effecting the quality of the work they're turning out I just can't see the problem. Like if a person of high office has an affair. If it doesn't effect their job and they continue to perform to good ability or of a level required there shouldn't be a problem.

This is just closed minded people in a modern society trying to live in a era of a bygone year. These are the ones still trying to burn books and censor what people see. If it hasn't effected how they do their jobs let them be is what I say.
 
I can't see in what way it will effect them from doing their jobs. As if it isn't effecting the quality of the work they're turning out I just can't see the problem. Like if a person of high office has an affair. If it doesn't effect their job and they continue to perform to good ability or of a level required there shouldn't be a problem.

This is just closed minded people in a modern society trying to live in a era of a bygone year. These are the ones still trying to burn books and censor what people see. If it hasn't effected how they do their jobs let them be is what I say.
Hi Poggy,

I don't think this has anything to do with "performance" in as much as it has to do with 'honoring the rules you signed up for.'

Humans are free to do what they want - so long as they accept the consequences of their actions. I don't appreciate your implication that those who are against said woman in this case are also the ones who are "closed minded people in a modern society trying to live in a era of a bygone year. These are the ones still trying to burn books and censor what people see."

I think your statement is a very unfair characterization.

cheers,
 
Question is it alright for a shop worker, office worker, hair dresser, etc to pose nude ?
Most people will answer yes to this.
To me that really depends on whether the person posing nude, or partially nude as it would be, in some kind of uniform. I'm fine with people wanting to pose nude for whatever magazine or TV-show, but I also think that companies or institutions have the right to demand that they aren't made a part of it, by not allowing any such uniforms, company car or whatever, to be used. And there could probably be many more factors involved that I've not thought of yet.

Another question: Where do we draw the line for how much of the things done in your personal time, we are willing to accept from a person in a certain job or position?
 
To me that really depends on whether the person posing nude, or partially nude as it would be, in some kind of uniform. I'm fine with people wanting to pose nude for whatever magazine or TV-show, but I also think that companies or institutions have the right to demand that they aren't made a part of it, by not allowing any such uniforms, company car or whatever, to be used. And there could probably be many more factors involved that I've not thought of yet.

Another question: Where do we draw the line for how much of the things done in your personal time, we are willing to accept from a person in a certain job or position?

So you take just a little of my post to try to make it look like I said something totally different. Like it :1orglaugh

But models pose in uniforms all the time. How do we know they don't actually wear the same thing in real life. Or used too at least.

Like I said if it's not effecting their performance in their job, there shouldn't be a problem.
 
So you take just a little of my post to try to make it look like I said something totally different. Like it :1orglaugh

But models pose in uniforms all the time. How do we know they don't actually wear the same thing in real life. Or used too at least.

Like I said if it's not effecting their performance in their job, there shouldn't be a problem.
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I didn't try to make it seem like you said anything different from what you really said. I was just answering your question. Nor do I really see how my post could look like I was trying to twist your words in any way. It was merely an attempt to give my own views on the question you asked, and it didn't really involve your argumentation for your own views.

As for whether models wear the same uniforms in real life, that's neither for me to care about or to punish them for. That's entirely up to the company or whatever they are representing when wearing that uniform. I just believe that companies have the right to not allow their uniforms or whatever to be used in all ways their employee want to. At least when done in public.
 
The Reason I Posted What I Said In Post #27, Is For Americans, Americans ONLY!!! I DON'T Like Seeing ANY Countries Flag Burned! Period! But Why I Posted What I Did Was Because A Certain Poster, Had Applied For Citizenship In America About 6-8 Months Ago! Did They Get It, I Don't Know. If You Don't Like Our Flag, That Represents FREEDOM, That A Lot Of People Around The World DO NOT HAVE, Why, I Ask WHY Do You Want To Be A American Citizen? Go Back To Your Real Home! My Ancestors And Others Have Fought And Died For The Freedoms That We, Americans Are Using On This Message Board Right Now!!! But, ANY Person Of ANY Country, I Don't Think You'd Like Me Coming To Your Country And Burning Your Countries Flag, Would Ya???? And I Wouldn't Think Anybody Would, For That Means I Disrespect There Country, There Homeland!!! And Then Ask To Be A Citizen Of There Country, I'd Be Six Feet Under, I Wouldn't Blame Them A Bit! Yes, In America, They Call It Freedom Of Expression, Just Don't Do It Front Of Me! Nuff Said!
 
Like you obviously know what I've done? But then again, I wasn't talking the big talk was I? Yes, pot, kettle, black indeed
Yeah. Accuse someone else of laziness "because they were high" whilst claiming the moral high ground yourself. Did you forget/didn't-read the part where I said
Like obviously you KNOW what he has or has not done for this country.
(emphases mine)

Very consistent of you!

But models pose in uniforms all the time. How do we
know they don't actually wear the same thing in real life. Or used too at least.
Splendid point.

You're right - for a civillian to tell the difference, it is hard.
But for a veteran, it isn't.

All "movies"/"plays" etc. that try and attempt a realistic portrayal of soliders in their uniforms have to get permission from Command. I know someone suggested the earlier "example" of porno jocks in "fatigues" ---- yet no one noticed that the same "jocks" were NOT in "military uniform"... but wearing simple camo fatigues. With a dearth of insignia to boot!

But the question here isn't that. The argument here is that a Non Commisioned Officer of the armed forces, took it upon herself to break a code she knew she was supposed to uphold.

You can argue if it was a worthwhile code to uphold - but you cannot argue that she didn't "break any laws".


cheers,
 
Yeah. Accuse someone else of laziness "because they were high" whilst claiming the moral high ground yourself. Did you forget/didn't-read the part where I said (emphases mine)

Very consistent of you!

You should really go back and read my post again, probably several times, and very slowly. I'm not going to try to explain the irony and hypocrosy of your point to you any more though as you're another one who is simply here to argue with people.

This is the kettle bowing out of this thread. It's all yours pot!
 
Splendid point.

You're right - for a civillian to tell the difference, it is hard.
But for a veteran, it isn't.

All "movies"/"plays" etc. that try and attempt a realistic portrayal of soliders in their uniforms have to get permission from Command. I know someone suggested the earlier "example" of porno jocks in "fatigues" ---- yet no one noticed that the same "jocks" were NOT in "military uniform"... but wearing simple camo fatigues. With a dearth of insignia to boot!

But the question here isn't that. The argument here is that a Non Commisioned Officer of the armed forces, took it upon herself to break a code she knew she was supposed to uphold.

You can argue if it was a worthwhile code to uphold - but you cannot argue that she didn't "break any laws".


cheers,

That wasn't quite the point I was making.

The point I made was. If it isn't interfering with the job they do, then there is no reason to make a stink over it.

Personally I can't see where a woman stripping out of a uniform to pose for naked pictures is going to effect her job. Especially when there are men mentally picturing her doing just that anyway.
 
Wow, can you imagine if ALL the posters was in a bar!!!! Bartender put up ALL the bottles right now!!! Bolt Down The Chairs!!! I went back and have reread ALL the posts!!! It's a SHAME!!! On other posts we ALL get along, but on this one call the Calvary!!!! I see one thing, and it really is starting to bother me. NOBODY repeat NOBODY is reading ALL of everybody's post's, O.K. ya want to give me hell for saying it, go ahead. But I think You Might want to go back and read what was said and next posted!!!
Fox, I thought your line in my Rep was cute, my girlfriend was not happy, she was reading over my shoulder. She said when she see's ya she's going to smack you with one of her 38D's!! Please reread my post above yours #76. All I can say if the DRAFT is re-enacted, Fox after your SheMale post, you can stay in the rear and cook or clean the latrines. There's a lot I wouldn't trust my back to in this post!! Or jump in a Fox-Hole with, no pun intended Fox!!! Fox, you didn't Piss me off, NOBODY CAN!! But I just don't get where you and Calpoon, Big P 13, loyalties will be IF, I said IF, we HAD to go to WAR, like NOW, not next week, and the other side doesn't want to talk to you. They just sent a missle our way, what are you going to do??? Fight or Cut-N-Run??? I don't understand you. Where you going to run and hide, there's not time!!! Course I didn't understand when a couple of my schoolmates went to Canada ether back in the early 70's!!! They Cut-N-Run Also, but they had time!
Everybody has there own opinion's and idea's which is called Freedom here in the States. And a lot of others DON'T HAVE!!!
 
Why is it that just about every new thread ends in an arguement or knock down brawl?

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Why is it that just about every new thread ends in an arguement or knock down brawl?

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It's mainly cause you won't paint your RagTop AFA!!! I got some Dupont Emron in "Gold Nugget"????? :D

Fox, she does it to me all the time, I just pick her up and put her over my shoulder, she's only 118lbs. carry her around till she simmers down, sometimes it takes a smack on the rear to help!!! :lovecoupl

And your explanation, I now understand it. :hatsoff:
 
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