NHL '11/'12 Thread

[PlasmaTwa2]

I completely agree. Where else in life, in any other profession, can you just up and sucker punch someone because you're frustrated, without repercussions? It can only happen in North American Hockey. And it shouldn't.

Ugh. I can feel the hateful "you're fucking wrong" posts already coming. It's my opinion people. Fighting has no part in this game.

I disagree with your opinion, but I see why people say it, especially when you see shit like Connolly's move. You know what it immediately reminded me of? When Bertuzzi sucker punched Steve Moore and ended his career. That could have easily happened tonight, and for what? Connolly was frustrated? And the damnest thing about it is that on Facebook, I have friends saying Connolly did the right thing. And even on Sportscentre now, they're only speaking about the third period and how amazing Canada played and how the post saved the Russians. Nothing about how they acted like children for forty minutes.

 

[lurkingdirk]

I disagree with your opinion, but I see why people say it, especially when you see shit like Connolly's move. You know what it immediately reminded me of? When Bertuzzi sucker punched Steve Moore and ended his career. That could have easily happened tonight, and for what? Connolly was frustrated? And the damnest thing about it is that on Facebook, I have friends saying Connolly did the right thing. And even on Sportscentre now, they're only speaking about the third period and how amazing Canada played and how the post saved the Russians. Nothing about how they acted like children for forty minutes.

What is your disagreement? You think fighting is part of the game? Why doesn't that aggression turn into more aggressive forechecking, harder runs up against the boards, and more open ice contact? If you're going to get a penalty anyway, why not make it part of breaking up a play, rather than just pounding on someone?

Meh. We've had this conversation before, and I'm going to concede right now that you make good points. We'll agree to disagree on this point.

However, the comments you make about the Canadian team acting like douches, not getting called on it, and repeating this behaviour are right on.

Some day, you and I will watch a hockey game together. If things go your way, I'm going to punch you in the face.

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

If things go your way, I'm going to punch you in the face.

I'm pretty sure rod said the exact same thing to me last year when the Canucks were in the finals. :tongue:

I guess I should say now that the third period of that game was a lot better than the first two. After Connolly's little bitch move the entire team seemingly grew up and started playing the game and it payed off for them. It's definitely no reason to forget how their conduct was completely unbecoming of a national team, but at least they decided to play.

And I loved seeing Makarov in net for the final minutes for Russia. Saskatoon player, right there.

(They just interviewed Connolly on Sportscentre. Nothing about his sucker punch, but plenty on how he never quit and helped fire up the team.)

 

[STDiva]

Sometimes I'm glad Team Canada loses. I wouldn't want to see this team win and have the entire country singing their praises.

 

[LukeEl]

I enjoyed the Sweden vs. Finland game a lot more, after watching it yesterday.

 

[STDiva]

Rumour has it, Parise, Weber and Suter are all on the block if they don't sign extensions soon. Detroit has a lot of cap space, just sayin. Apparently they are after Semin too. I hope McPhee doesn't think he's going to rob Holland like he did George Sherman in Colorado.

 

[Marlo Manson]

Rumour has it, Parise, Weber and Suter are all on the block if they don't sign extensions soon. Detroit has a lot of cap space, just sayin. Apparently they are after Semin too. I hope McPhee doesn't think he's going to rob Holland like he did George Sherman in Colorado.

Yep, Yep, correctamundo! I think that's the Red Wings master plan, they are gonna sign Weber and Suter almost under any condition, that's if Lidstrom is indeed playing his last season. I think the Red Wings are gonna be the most aggressive and will almost stop @ nothing to fill the void of losing Lidstom this upcoming off-season beginning July 1,2012. :nanner: it will certainly be an interesting off season for the Red Wings no matter who they get. all I know is they are gonna be most definitely be Big Game hunting! :2 cents:

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

What would the Wings give to the Predators for Weber?

 

[STDiva]

What would the Wings give to the Predators for Weber?

I doubt they actually get Weber or Suter in a trade. Nashville is too well run to trade an all star defensemen to a perennial contender in their own division. One of them might be had in free agency, but I think Parise or Semin via trade is more likely at this point.

 

[Marlo Manson]

What would the Wings give to the Predators for Weber?

They may have to give up Nothing, I am pretty sure Weber is UFA after this season, I am not sure about Suter, be he maybe a UFA as well! :dunno: for sure. Detroit will offer Weber almost as much as Lidstrom made per season just to make sure they get him! :2 cents:

I doubt they actually get Weber or Suter in a trade. Nashville is too well run to trade an all star defensemen to a perennial contender in their own division. One of them might be had in free agency, but I think Parise or Semin via trade is more likely at this point.

I dunno who they will persue, but if Lidstrom retires I know they are going after a #1 D-Man as a present and long-term replacement for Lidstrom, who they go after is yet to be seen, but they will be going after some big names thats almost a garuntee. :2 cents:

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

They may have to give up Nothing, I am pretty sure Weber is UFA after this season, I am not sure about Suter, be he maybe a UFA as well! :dunno: for sure. Detroit will offer Weber almost as much as Lidstrom made per season just to make sure they get him! :2 cents:

Both Weber and Suter are UFAs this year, I think. And I think there is a snowball's chance in hell that Nashville will let Weber walk for nothing. If he isn't going to sign they won't hesitate to trade him and they'll be looking for a massive return. They'll likely do the same for Suter, so I don't think Detroit would have the ability to trade for both, or even just Weber and Parise/Semin.

 

[Marlo Manson]

Both Weber and Suter are UFAs this year, I think. And I think there is a snowball's chance in hell that Nashville will let Weber walk for nothing. If he isn't going to sign they won't hesitate to trade him and they'll be looking for a massive return. They'll likely do the same for Suter, so I don't think Detroit would have the ability to trade for both, or even just Weber and Parise/Semin.

I dunno what will happen, its mere speculation @ this point, I guess we'll have to see what happens. I think Detroit will pay Weber way more then the Preds can afford, esspecially if they have try and sign both Weber and Suter, and who knows whether or not either of them have No Trade Clause in there current contracts, if so, the Preds hands may be tied, whatever the case maybe, I know the Red Wings are gonna pursue 1 or both of them if Lidstrom is retiring, so we'll just have to see how it plays out. :dunno::2 cents:

 

[STDiva]

I dunno what will happen, its mere speculation @ this point, I guess we'll have to see what happens. I think Detroit will pay Weber way more then the Preds can afford, esspecially if they have try and sign both Weber and Suter, and who knows whether or not either of them have No Trade Clause in there current contracts, if so, the Preds hands may be tied, whatever the case maybe, I know the Red Wings are gonna pursue 1 or both of them if Lidstrom is retiring, so we'll just have to see how it plays out. :dunno::2 cents:

Attendance and ratings are up in Nashville. That might cause ownership to open up their wallets for these studs.

 

[Marlo Manson]

Attendance and ratings are up in Nashville. That might cause ownership to open up their wallets for these studs.

Who knows what (the Preds or the Red Wings) are gonna do, the preds might have to pay too much dividend too get both guys back, they maynot be able to afford both of them or 1 of them no matter what they do, we'll just have too wait and see. They are both gonna want a huge contract, they both deserve a #1 D-Mans payday, so we'll see what the Preds are gonna do. :2 cents:

 

[STDiva]

We had a World -17 tournament here in Windsor the past two weeks. The Canadian team that won bronze left their medals in their hotel rooms Canadian attitude exemplified.

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

Shit, that was one hell of a game. Sweden absolutely dominated the entire game but Makarov single handedly kept Russia in the game the entire time. Sweden definetely deserved to win.

I'm going to say it right now, though: people are going to be calling the Russian poor losers for chosing to hold their medals instead of wearing them. I don't think people understand that these players (Russia, Sweden, Finland namely) are probably under just as much pressure to win as the Canadians are. There's no reason now that Russia or Sweden can't come into this tournament expecting to win like we do every year.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

They peppered the shit out of Makarov.

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

They peppered the shit out of Makarov.

Never thought I'd be able to say this with pride, but he plays for the Saskatoon Blades. If he plays like that when he gets back we might actually be able to get passed the second round of the playoffs for once. :thumbsup:

 

[STDiva]

Why is Anaheim so shit? So much talent on that roster.

 

[lurkingdirk]

Why is Anaheim so shit? So much talent on that roster.

Because they're in Anaheim.