Coronavirus

[dudman]

Oh boy!

 

[D-rock]

Science, reason, and logical thinking win again. Weird how that works.

 

[gmase]

It looks like Kayleigh's binder wasn't strong enough to protect her from COVID: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/519632-mcenany-tests-positive-for-covid-19

 

[gmase]

Stephen Miller joins the band: https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...miller-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-reports
Four press aides: https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...miller-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-reports
and there's more: https://thehill.com/policy/defense/...after-coast-guard-official-tests-positive-for

 

[Steve-FreeOnes]

Stephen Miller looks like Pauly Shore and I can't decide if that makes me dislike him more or not.

 

[Luxman]

Stephen Miller reminds me of Joseph Goebbels.

 

[Luxman]

Most of the 216,000 people who died from covid-19 would still be alive if they had access to the same level of health care as Trump.

Older people are at more risk from COVID-19 because of how the immune system ages
https://theconversation.com/older-p...-because-of-how-the-immune-system-ages-147391

 

[Steve-FreeOnes]

Like I've asked before, can we keep the political element down to a minimum in this thread? Thanks.

 

[Pornfan99]

Ugh.. Currently the best guess to "return to normal" is late 2021:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...avirus-when-return-to-normal-life/5882898002/

 

[gmase]

The US is not alone: https://thehill.com/policy/internat...-day-record-with-large-coronavirus-case-surge

 

[Luxman]

Influenza and COVID-19 - similarities and differences

https://www.who.int/emergencies/dis...rities-and-differences-covid-19-and-influenza

"Mortality for COVID-19 appears higher than for influenza, especially seasonal influenza. While the true mortality of COVID-19 will take some time to fully understand, the data we have so far indicate that the crude mortality ratio (the number of reported deaths divided by the reported cases) is between 3-4%, the infection mortality rate (the number of reported deaths divided by the number of infections) will be lower. For seasonal influenza, mortality is usually well below 0.1%. However, mortality is to a large extent determined by access to and quality of health care."

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Unfortunately the CDC website is being used by the Trump republicans to spread propaganda and lies to downplay the severity of the number of infections and deaths, to disinform the public and try to help ahole Trump get reelected.

 

[Luxman]

Am I immune to the coronavirus if I’ve already had it?

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-archive-310caebd08336e2df27c468dfc79f9b8

 

[gmase]

Four members of the Swiss Guard have the virus.
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...es-elite-security-team-reports-covid-19-cases

 

[Pornfan99]

In the spring, when government scientists began discussing how to invest in vaccine research, some wanted to test a number of vaccines all at once, against each other — what’s known as a master protocol.

“You have to have the total cooperation of the pharmaceutical companies to get involved in a master protocol,” Fauci said. “That — I don’t know what the right word is — didn’t turn out to be feasible.”

https://news.yahoo.com/first-vaccine-approval-then-chaos-190702314.html

Gist: even when vaccines hit the market (Spring / Summer 2021?), people will STILL need to wear masks for protection. Soooo - same bullshit we're dealing with today, with the .. people who consider mask-wearing an infringement on their personal liberties. In the US, anyway.

 

[gmase]

In the spring, when government scientists began discussing how to invest in vaccine research, some wanted to test a number of vaccines all at once, against each other — what’s known as a master protocol.

“You have to have the total cooperation of the pharmaceutical companies to get involved in a master protocol,” Fauci said. “That — I don’t know what the right word is — didn’t turn out to be feasible.”

https://news.yahoo.com/first-vaccine-approval-then-chaos-190702314.html

Gist: even when vaccines hit the market (Spring / Summer 2021?), people will STILL need to wear masks for protection. Soooo - same bullshit we're dealing with today, with the .. people who consider mask-wearing an infringement on their personal liberties. In the US, anyway.

Thank you for sharing the article. It was very enlightening.

I liked the last paragraph:

The only way to manage this chaotic year, Poland said, is for scientists to talk honestly about how vaccines are tested and for people to learn what lies ahead. “As long as you frame something in advance, people do better with it,”​

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The whole mask-wearing debacle is yet another example of a phenomena afflicting many Americans: "I know more than the experts."

 

[gmase]

Am I immune to the coronavirus if I’ve already had it?

https://apnews.com/article/virus-outbreak-archive-310caebd08336e2df27c468dfc79f9b8

Only if you're Trump and adhere to the "If I say it, it must be true" school of thinking.

Otherwise: https://thehill.com/changing-americ...erican-catches-covid-19-twice-and-second-case

 

[gmase]

Meanwhile in the world of sports:
- #1 golfer Dustin Johnson, and
- #2 soccer/footballer Ronaldo

test positive.

 

[Pornfan99]

Poor Dustin.. Imagine being stuck inside for 14 days with Paulina Gretzky! 😜

 

[Rane1071]

 

[gmase]

I'm not sure how to take this one. My sarcastic side thinks "they really want to get out of the nursing home." My cynical side thinks they watch too many news anchors telling them the virus isn't real. Ultimately, they are exercising their First Amendment rights.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/10/09/nursing-home-residents-greeley-protest-covid-19-restrictions/