Coronavirus

[Pornfan99]

The young uns are getting it near me: There were 44 new cases at the middle school last week, out of the school district’s 72 new cases, according to the Wellesley Public Schools COVID-19 data dashboard. Superintendent David Lussier told the Globe that 28 of the 44 students were in the “Frozen Jr.”

https://www.boston.com/news/local-n...-after-frozen-jr-shows/?p1=recirc_mostpopular

 

[Luxman]

In my city, masks and hand sanitizer are still mandatory in most stores and in public transport.
Vaccine passports are still mandatory in most restaurants, hospitals, and airports.

People with omicron are reporting a strange new covid symptom | The Why - Jan 5, 2022

COVID-19: On the brink of becoming endemic? | DW News - Feb 8, 2022

 

[DrakeM]

So what are the COVID restrictions like in your areas? Or are there any?

My area pretty much has lifted everything, from vaccine passports to even masks. The free disinfectant is starting to disappear too.
The crazy thing is, the actual case counts are actually higher than they were at this point last year. Seems like a perfect storm for another wave.

On April 21, Ontario pretty much lifted everything except for masking in certain areas - public transport (buses etc.) and medical clinics/hospitals. The federal gov't masking mandates for train and air transportation are still in place as far as I know. In practical terms, I did some observing at three grocery stores I went two in the past couple of days and estimated 10% or less of the people were maskless, the rest, including me, still wore masks. The 10% includes staff working at the stores. It will be interesting to see how quickly masks start to disappear as we get further away from the end of the mandate. Oh, and based on wastewater analysis, COVID is on the rise in all four of Canda's largest provinces (by population) including Ontario.

 

[gmase]

Colorado’s hospitalization is plummeting. Most restrictions have been removed.
https://kdvr.com/news/local/colorado-sees-fewest-covid-hospitalizations-since-pandemic-began/amp/

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

My wife made an appointment for me to get my booster. Might as well play it safe. I've tried to be reasonable not listening to kooks from either extreme side.

 

[Luxman]

FDA Expected To Authorize A Second COVID-19 Booster Shot - Mar 28, 2022

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Anybody had the Moderna booster? I got an appointment to get mine tomorrow. I wonder how I will feel after.

 

[DrakeM]

Anybody had the Moderna booster? I got an appointment to get mine tomorrow. I wonder how I will feel after.

Yup, was almost nothing compared to my first two shots (Pfizer then Moderna).

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

This shit ain’t shit. Guess I got a high tolerance to COVID boosters too. I feel nothing. No side effects.

 

[tvstrip]

Is this your first or second booster?

My Moderna booster (1st) hit me as hard as my 2nd shot.
With cases likely to rise again, I guess I'm looking at my second booster in the early summer.

So correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't these all the same shots from last year? Am I right in that the boosters aren't specifically made with Omicron in mind?
The yearly flu shots make adjustments based on the flu that's likely to be popular. So why not do the same for the COVID vaccines?

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

It was my first Moderna Booster after the first 2 Moderna Shots.

I don't know much about the shots. Moderna is what UCLA had at the time.

 

[Luxman]

Add lots of garlic to food.
Garlic boosts the immune system and helps prevent infections from viruses, bacteria, and vampires.

COVID-19 cases rise in Los Angeles County due to BA.2 variant - Apr 8, 2022

COVID-19: Omicron appears to produce shorter-lived immunity, experts say - Apr 6, 2022

Things are getting worse in China because of CCP corruption.

Gravitas | Shanghai Covid Outbreak: China deploys drones to silence protesters - Apr 8, 2022

Meanwhile, top members of China's CCP corrupt commie ahole club are safe in their 100 room mansions with food and supplies to last for at least 10 years stockpiled in their basements/bunkers.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Speaking of garlic this is a famous restaurant in Beverly Hills but unfortunately it closed. I think Metro bought the property.

 

[Luxman]

Why Being Anti-Science Is Now Part Of Many Rural Americans’ Identity
And why that will make communication around the next crisis so much more challenging.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/feature...is-now-part-of-many-rural-americans-identity/

 

[tvstrip]

^^ Note the source of that chart as "SOURCE: GENERAL SOCIAL SURVEY"
I'm sure that's reliable.

Also, are we to take that republicans consistently had more trust in science than dems until 2000?

 

[Luxman]

I also wondered why the graph changes so much over 5~10 years, which made me question its validity.
The article explains how the graph was created by I don't fully understand it.
I have seen other graphs with more gradual increases and decreases showing that there were times over the last 50 years when a greater percentage of Republicans believed in science more than Democrats did.
Then ahole Trump infested the Republican party.

 

[D-rock]

^^ Note the source of that chart as "SOURCE: GENERAL SOCIAL SURVEY"
I'm sure that's reliable.

Also, are we to take that republicans consistently had more trust in science than dems until 2000?

Isn't FiveThrityEight usually seen as pretty good when it comes to data analysis? That doesn't mean one should just blindly trust graphs or serveys because they can be manipulated by confirmation bias or downright lied about, but I thought they had a decent reputation. I think that has to be a composite from many sources over time as it would be hard to keep the same survey open over the span of 45 years.

Speculation: As far as why there was a divergence around 2000 I have a hypothesis. It wasn't just random fluctuation or a general shift. There was something that made the shift come about. I believe that was climate change. Scientist had been sounding the alarm on that before that for sure, but the mid to late 90s is when it started to get amped up. Well just like people like being told what they want to hear or going with confirmation bias it's also true people like to dismiss what they don't want to hear or reject that which they don't like. The truth is a bitter pill to swallow when it challenges ones very belief system or philosophies whether that be political or religious. When scientist and the Scientific Method are at the forefront of not only providing knowledge, but going out of there way to prove that knowledge with verifiable, well researched, and peer reviewed facts, they will get rejected by people when that knowledge goes against their life philosophies. I'd like to see information about this when evolution was starting to become a thing in the scientific community. I'd imagine there was probably a similar effect with religious people in general, or even well before that when Geocentrism was proven false. It's often just easier for a lot of people to blindly reject something than it is to admit they were wrong, others had been fooling them, or what they held dear was just never true in the first place.

If the graphs is correct one of the worst parts for me if you look at the graph is how low everybody is in general. Look at the percentages. If it's true that means the amount of people, all people, that had trust in science was below 50% for almost the entire time. That is extremely sad. It's sad that so many people are willing to lie, even to themselves, because the lie is more comfortable than facing reality. It's even worse when those people go on to hurt even a lot more people than themselves by their rejection of reality. It's sad when so many people are willing to believe in conspiracy theories about the most intelligent and trained people on the planet being out the get them than they are willing to believe in what is the most simple answer.

 

[Luxman]

After 2000 is also when a significant number of people started to use the internet and were exposed to increasing amounts of pseudoscience, misinformation, and disinformation.
That may have been a factor in lowering credibility in science by making it more confusing and not knowing who or what to believe.
Trump getting covid and many republican anti-vaxxers dying is still not enough to make most anti-vaxxers openly admit that the vaccines save lives.
Because of ahole Trump, now most republicans' belief in science is dictated by politics.
Most Republicans automatically reject anything democrats say, even if they know it's true.

 

[Pornfan99]

"After 2000 is also when a significant number of people started to use the internet and were exposed to increasing amounts of pseudoscience, misinformation, and disinformation. Most Republicans automatically reject anything democrats say, even if they know it's true."

*** ALSO - in 2000 is when Al Gore won the popular vote in the US Presidential Election, but George Bush won the electoral vote. In my opinion, THAT is when politics and general discord went to shit..

 

[Luxman]

*** ALSO - in 2000 is when Al Gore won the popular vote in the US Presidential Election, but George Bush won the electoral vote. In my opinion, THAT is when politics and general discord went to shit..

Wasn't the reason because many ballots in Florida were thrown into the ocean or disqualified because of stuck chads?
And the republican biased Florida court dismissed the case to unjustly give Bush the win?
If Gore had won, America could have avoided the Iraq war, Trump would never have been president, and the Covid pandemic may have been avoided or mitigated earlier.
One wrong decision can affect the lives of billions of people for decades or centuries.