i don't like kentucky too much, but john wall is a BEAST
2009-2010 NCAA Basketball
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Wow, what a huge upset College of Charleston made against #9 UNC. Yes, I am aware that the Tar Heels were without starters Marcus Ginyard and Will Graves. Give credit to Charleston on making their 3-pointers when it mattered. Nevertheless, I'm still in shock about what happened.
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
The Texas Longhorns might be #2 right now but I defy anyone to show me a team that is stronger and deeper than Rick Barnes' squad. These guys are loaded. Pittman is a beast for which very few if any teams will have an answer. Best team in college basketball IMO and they will prove it in the long run. Remember, you heard it here first.
Not much of an upset. Ga Tech has beaten no one. They had no business being in the Top 25.
Nice finish at East Lansing between Michigan St. & Wisconsin. The game was mostly played at Wisconsin's prefered type of game - a half-court, low scoring defensive battle. However, MSU found a way to pull out a good victory with free throws and executing on both ends of the floor late in the game.
It's to see Evan Turner back in uniform for tOSU tonight - it may still take awhile to get him back at full game speed.
Marquette finally wins a close game against a ranked team this year, with Georgetown being the victim. Watch out for the Golden Eagles, they may sneak up in the Big East Conference.
Marquette finally wins a close game against a ranked team this year, with Georgetown being the victim. Watch out for the Golden Eagles, they may sneak up in the Big East Conference.
Ace Bandage
The one and only.
Big game on tap Saturday. #4 Purdue travels to Madison to take on the #17 Badgers. The Boilers have won two in a row at the Kohl Center, and I'm really hoping they can pull out another one this year. It's going to be a very tough game, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Purdue fall. We cannot commit as many turnovers as we did against the Gophers and expect to win.
Prediction: Purdue - 68, Wisconsin - 62. Boiler Up!
Prediction: Purdue - 68, Wisconsin - 62. Boiler Up!
Well, that prediction totally blew up in my face.
Kansas? :dunno:
I think Texas is playing better right now. Kansas is in a little bit of a funk.
Kansas has the better talent, leadership, depth, and coach. And when it's tourney time..... Kansas will be the better team.
Who knew the Big 12 was a better basketball conference? :dunno:
Ace Bandage
The one and only.
Here's the key number of the week for Texas Basketball: 131. That's their strength of schedule this year. I'm not saying they don't deserve their raking, I just don't think they've played a tough team yet.
After Kansas' grind-it-out victory over Cornell, various messages were running all over the place, such as:
KU is a fraud!
Will this affect Kansas' first-place votes?
Move Texas to No. 1! Kansas sucks and you know it!
Actually, I don't know it, and neither do you. Because the Kansas team that struggled with Cornell is the same Kansas team that destroyed Temple. Just like the Texas team that was tested by Arkansas and Texas A&M-CC is the same Texas team that handled North Carolina and Michigan State by double-digits. Just like the Kentucky team that barely beat Miami-Ohio and Stanford is the same Kentucky team with notable wins over North Carolina, Connecticut and Louisville. Just like the Purdue team that dominated West Virginia and Minnesota is the same Purdue team that had to come from 16 down to beat Alabama.
In other words, chill. This is college basketball.
This is what happens in this sport. Unless you think Kansas fell apart between Saturday (when the Jayhawks beat Temple 84-52) and Wednesday (when the Jayhawks trailed in the final minute before edging Cornell 71-66) then you have to acknowledge the truth, which is that what happened Saturday doesn't mean Kansas will consistently dominate ranked teams any more than what happened Wednesday means Kansas will struggle with outclassed programs. What we know about Kansas is that the Jayhawks are immensely talented, deep and capable of blowing out good opponents, but that they're also vulnerable. That makes Bill Self's team a lot like Rick Barnes' team. And John Calipari's team. And Matt Painter's team, too.
If you're looking for total domination, try the Colts (when Peyton Manning isn't benched). Or Floyd Mayweather (on the rare occasion that he fights). Or Derek Jeter (on the dating scene). Or Tiger Woods (also on the dating scene). Those are some good sources for domination, or near perfection. But college basketball teams simply aren't sharp every time out.
Remember North Carolina last season? Awesome, right? The Tar Heels won the national title ... after losing to Boston College in January. Remember Kansas two seasons ago? Awesome, right? The Jayhawks won the national title ... after losing to Kansas State in January. Remember Florida three seasons ago? Awesome, right? The Gators won the national title ... after losing to Vanderbilt, LSU and Tennessee in February.
Even the best of the best slip up and lose. It happens every season.
And yet, for some reason, we think Kansas is a fraud when it struggles with Cornell, that Texas is shaky when it can't shake loose from Arkansas, that Kentucky is hopeless when it lets Louisville back into a game, and that Purdue will be lucky to finish in the top three of the Big Ten when the Boilermakers fall behind big at Alabama. Me? I'm just impressed by undefeated records in January, regardless of how they were produced. So I'm not worried about Kansas, Texas, Kentucky or Purdue. All four clearly have the necessary parts to make a Final Four, and I suspect our national champion will come from that group.
You want to worry about somebody? Worry about somebody who really stinks, like Iowa or DePaul.
You want to question a Top 10 team? Question the teams that have actually lost, like West Virginia, North Carolina, or Michigan State.
But I wouldn't spend much time worrying about or questioning any of the four remaining undefeated teams, especially Kansas. Yes, the Jayhawks looked bad in stretches against Cornell, and they nearly lost at home. But they still have a coach with a national title ring, still have a bunch of future NBA players, and they still have - don't forget this, because it's important - an unblemished 14-0 record.
In this sport, that's good enough.
I'll worry about Kansas when Sherron Collins gets hurts, and not One Shining Moment sooner.
KU is a fraud!
Will this affect Kansas' first-place votes?
Move Texas to No. 1! Kansas sucks and you know it!
Actually, I don't know it, and neither do you. Because the Kansas team that struggled with Cornell is the same Kansas team that destroyed Temple. Just like the Texas team that was tested by Arkansas and Texas A&M-CC is the same Texas team that handled North Carolina and Michigan State by double-digits. Just like the Kentucky team that barely beat Miami-Ohio and Stanford is the same Kentucky team with notable wins over North Carolina, Connecticut and Louisville. Just like the Purdue team that dominated West Virginia and Minnesota is the same Purdue team that had to come from 16 down to beat Alabama.
In other words, chill. This is college basketball.
This is what happens in this sport. Unless you think Kansas fell apart between Saturday (when the Jayhawks beat Temple 84-52) and Wednesday (when the Jayhawks trailed in the final minute before edging Cornell 71-66) then you have to acknowledge the truth, which is that what happened Saturday doesn't mean Kansas will consistently dominate ranked teams any more than what happened Wednesday means Kansas will struggle with outclassed programs. What we know about Kansas is that the Jayhawks are immensely talented, deep and capable of blowing out good opponents, but that they're also vulnerable. That makes Bill Self's team a lot like Rick Barnes' team. And John Calipari's team. And Matt Painter's team, too.
If you're looking for total domination, try the Colts (when Peyton Manning isn't benched). Or Floyd Mayweather (on the rare occasion that he fights). Or Derek Jeter (on the dating scene). Or Tiger Woods (also on the dating scene). Those are some good sources for domination, or near perfection. But college basketball teams simply aren't sharp every time out.
Remember North Carolina last season? Awesome, right? The Tar Heels won the national title ... after losing to Boston College in January. Remember Kansas two seasons ago? Awesome, right? The Jayhawks won the national title ... after losing to Kansas State in January. Remember Florida three seasons ago? Awesome, right? The Gators won the national title ... after losing to Vanderbilt, LSU and Tennessee in February.
Even the best of the best slip up and lose. It happens every season.
And yet, for some reason, we think Kansas is a fraud when it struggles with Cornell, that Texas is shaky when it can't shake loose from Arkansas, that Kentucky is hopeless when it lets Louisville back into a game, and that Purdue will be lucky to finish in the top three of the Big Ten when the Boilermakers fall behind big at Alabama. Me? I'm just impressed by undefeated records in January, regardless of how they were produced. So I'm not worried about Kansas, Texas, Kentucky or Purdue. All four clearly have the necessary parts to make a Final Four, and I suspect our national champion will come from that group.
You want to worry about somebody? Worry about somebody who really stinks, like Iowa or DePaul.
You want to question a Top 10 team? Question the teams that have actually lost, like West Virginia, North Carolina, or Michigan State.
But I wouldn't spend much time worrying about or questioning any of the four remaining undefeated teams, especially Kansas. Yes, the Jayhawks looked bad in stretches against Cornell, and they nearly lost at home. But they still have a coach with a national title ring, still have a bunch of future NBA players, and they still have - don't forget this, because it's important - an unblemished 14-0 record.
In this sport, that's good enough.
I'll worry about Kansas when Sherron Collins gets hurts, and not One Shining Moment sooner.
You know the Pac-10 is terrible this year when you think one of their teams needs a government bailout.
Wednesday provided a new low point, and it wasn't Cal's loss to UCLA at home. It was Oregon State's 99-48 loss to Seattle.
That's Seattle as in the Seattle Redhawks, who entered with a 6-9 record featuring double-digit losses to Oklahoma State, Portland, Cal Poly, UC-Davis, Loyola-Marymount, and Harvard. Understand, it would be difficult to lose by 51 to Kansas or Texas or Kentucky, and maybe even the Celtics. So how the Beavers lost to a Seattle team without a conference - seriously, Seattle isn't even in a conference - is the latest sign that the second year of the Craig Robinson era isn't going well.
Oregon State is now 6-8 overall, 0-2 in the Pac-10.
If there's a cash-for-clunkers program in college hoops, President Obama's brother-in-law could sure use it.
Wednesday provided a new low point, and it wasn't Cal's loss to UCLA at home. It was Oregon State's 99-48 loss to Seattle.
That's Seattle as in the Seattle Redhawks, who entered with a 6-9 record featuring double-digit losses to Oklahoma State, Portland, Cal Poly, UC-Davis, Loyola-Marymount, and Harvard. Understand, it would be difficult to lose by 51 to Kansas or Texas or Kentucky, and maybe even the Celtics. So how the Beavers lost to a Seattle team without a conference - seriously, Seattle isn't even in a conference - is the latest sign that the second year of the Craig Robinson era isn't going well.
Oregon State is now 6-8 overall, 0-2 in the Pac-10.
If there's a cash-for-clunkers program in college hoops, President Obama's brother-in-law could sure use it.
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Stonger? Debatable. Deeper? No way.
maildude
Postal Paranoiac
Give Cornell credit. They regularly lead the Ivy Leaguers in basketball. Hell, I'd pick them over anybody...in the Ivy League.
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