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2010-2011 NCAA Basketball Thread
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i had ohio state, uconn, kansas and florida... i understand ohio state losing to kentucky but fucking kansas and florida losing to vcu and butler is just ridiculous
On Mike and Mike this morning:
Out of close to 6 million brackets filled out on their ESPN Challenge online, TWO had all four picks to the Final Four. :shocked:
Like Golic said, those two are likely VCU Alum or students. As I said previously, the Butler pick isn't so outlandish considering their accomplishment last year making it to the final.
The kicker here is VCU, and those two had to have connections to the school. Only explanation. :dunno:
Out of close to 6 million brackets filled out on their ESPN Challenge online, TWO had all four picks to the Final Four. :shocked:
Like Golic said, those two are likely VCU Alum or students. As I said previously, the Butler pick isn't so outlandish considering their accomplishment last year making it to the final.
The kicker here is VCU, and those two had to have connections to the school. Only explanation. :dunno:
Either that or they were really drunk.
Ace Bandage
The one and only.
Big Ten CoTY Matt Painter is meeting with the Mizzou Tigers today. Don't be surprised if he takes the head coaching job. For some goddamn reason, Purdue isn't going to pay him enough to keep him.
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
The fact that Butler made it 2 years running makes it even more unlikely and remarkable in my book. Back in 2006, George Mason made it to the Final 4. They haven't had a sniff of it since. What Butler has accomplished is absolutely nothing short of amazing.
Ace Bandage
The one and only.
Ugh, word around town is that Painter is gone. Expect an announcement Tuesday or Wednesday.
Fuck.
Fuck.
Big Ten CoTY Matt Painter is meeting with the Mizzou Tigers today. Don't be surprised if he takes the head coaching job. For some goddamn reason, Purdue isn't going to pay him enough to keep him.
Is that good news for Mizzou? I mean, will he really bring that much to the program do you think? I don't know a lot about him.
Ace Bandage
The one and only.
^^ The year before Painter took over we were 7-21. Even with a rebuilding year factored in, he's gone 156-64 (.708) as head coach at Purdue since 2005. He's a 3 time Big Ten COTY and a hell of a recruiter (see Robbie Hummel, JaJuan Johnson, E'Twaun Moore, Chris Kramer, Scott Martin, etc.). What I like about him is that he stresses defense over anything else. All of his teams are great on that side of the ball. So yeah, he's sort of a big deal.
He's had plenty of offers from other teams, but the Boilers still aren't willing to pay him enough to keep him. It's going to be a real shame watching him leave his alma mater.
He's had plenty of offers from other teams, but the Boilers still aren't willing to pay him enough to keep him. It's going to be a real shame watching him leave his alma mater.
Unnamed sources close to Painter cite constant neg repping from a particularly passionate fan as the primary reason for his pending departure.:2 cents:
Ace Bandage
The one and only.
Yeah, it's either that or the fact that he's the 8th highest paid coach in the conference.
One of those two has to be the reason.:rofl2:
Jagger69
Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
Ugh, word around town is that Painter is gone. Expect an announcement Tuesday or Wednesday.
Fuck.
Sorry AR but, as a Mizzou fan, I couldn't be happier. When Anderson split a couple of days ago for Arkansas I had nightmares of the reprise of someone like Quin Snyder coming in but if Painter is the guy, I would actually consider it a significant upgrade. Anderson's teams played fast and fierce but lacked the killer instinct to close games out against really good opponents. Painter could take us to the next level IMO. Plus, if Painter can score the top high school recruits from St. Louis and Kansas City and keep them from going to KU or elsewhere, Missouri could become a perennial major conference power instead of just a pretty good team every year. Great move if we can get him and what a mistake for Purdue to let him walk away.
Thanks for the info
Of the 5.9 million brackets in the bracket challenge on espn, only two has the correct final four. that is how crazy the tournament has been this year. http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=6265962&categoryid=2378529
maildude
Postal Paranoiac
Matt Painter gets big contract extension with Purdue.
...sorry,Jag.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ap-purdue-painter
...sorry,Jag.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news?slug=ap-purdue-painter
The Final Four this year shows that young coaches in college hoops shouldn't be overlooked. Butler hired Stevens when he was 30; now he's 34. VCU hired Smart when he was 31; now he's 33. But what's interesting is that Calipari and Calhoun began their head coaching careers at a younger age than even Stevens and Smart, and that's not something I'm sure the average person realizes. Calhoun was 29 when he got his first head job; Calipari was 29, too.
That means the four men at this Final Four received their first NCAA head coaching positions when they were, on average, 29.8 years of age, and yet, in the Year 2011, athletic directors are still mostly hesitant to hire somebody so young and inexperienced. More often than not, a Division I athletic director will pass on a young guy in favor of someone more advanced in age.
Take the Cal State-Bakersfield search, for instance. Bakersfield AD Jeff Konya this week hired Rod Barnes - a 45-year-old veteran who has been fired from Ole Miss and Georgia State in the past five years, and a man whose last eight years as a head coach have produced zero winning seasons. Yes, Barnes is a former National Coach of the Year, but that was 10 years ago and more situational than anything else. Yes, Barnes has over 180 Division I wins under his belt, but he has more than 180 Division I losses under his belt, too. His career record is 185-187.
Ole Miss and Georgia State may be hard jobs, but they're not that hard - or at least they shouldn't be. Regardless, neither job is as hard as the Cal State-Bakersfield job, which is why I can't think of a single reason why a Southern man who couldn't win in Mississippi or Georgia is going to suddenly start winning in California. If this doesn't end well, Konya can always argue that he hired a former National Coach of the Year with more than 180 wins. You know, somebody with a réresumé. The alternative would've been to gamble on a young coach, and athletic directors aren't usually into gambling as much as they're into making a move that's perceived safe.
Northeastern gambled in 1971 when it hired a 29-year-old Calhoun, and it worked. UMass gambled in 1988 when it hired a 29-year-old Calipari, and it worked, too (well, for awhile). Nearly two decades later, Butler gambled on Stevens, then VCU gambled on Smart. Now all four men are in need of just two more wins to claim the 2011 national championship.
My only point is that a good athletic director should be able to examine candidates, find the right guy for his job and pull the trigger. In some cases, the right guy might be a 50-year-old veteran. But I've long believed great coaches are often identifiable at a young age, always admired athletic directors with the you-know-whats to take a chance on one. With any luck, this group of coaches at this Final Four - who were all 31-or-younger when they got their first head coaching job - will help push more athletic directors to do the same, to take a chance, to worry less about what somebody's done and more about what somebody's built to do.
That means the four men at this Final Four received their first NCAA head coaching positions when they were, on average, 29.8 years of age, and yet, in the Year 2011, athletic directors are still mostly hesitant to hire somebody so young and inexperienced. More often than not, a Division I athletic director will pass on a young guy in favor of someone more advanced in age.
Take the Cal State-Bakersfield search, for instance. Bakersfield AD Jeff Konya this week hired Rod Barnes - a 45-year-old veteran who has been fired from Ole Miss and Georgia State in the past five years, and a man whose last eight years as a head coach have produced zero winning seasons. Yes, Barnes is a former National Coach of the Year, but that was 10 years ago and more situational than anything else. Yes, Barnes has over 180 Division I wins under his belt, but he has more than 180 Division I losses under his belt, too. His career record is 185-187.
Ole Miss and Georgia State may be hard jobs, but they're not that hard - or at least they shouldn't be. Regardless, neither job is as hard as the Cal State-Bakersfield job, which is why I can't think of a single reason why a Southern man who couldn't win in Mississippi or Georgia is going to suddenly start winning in California. If this doesn't end well, Konya can always argue that he hired a former National Coach of the Year with more than 180 wins. You know, somebody with a réresumé. The alternative would've been to gamble on a young coach, and athletic directors aren't usually into gambling as much as they're into making a move that's perceived safe.
Northeastern gambled in 1971 when it hired a 29-year-old Calhoun, and it worked. UMass gambled in 1988 when it hired a 29-year-old Calipari, and it worked, too (well, for awhile). Nearly two decades later, Butler gambled on Stevens, then VCU gambled on Smart. Now all four men are in need of just two more wins to claim the 2011 national championship.
My only point is that a good athletic director should be able to examine candidates, find the right guy for his job and pull the trigger. In some cases, the right guy might be a 50-year-old veteran. But I've long believed great coaches are often identifiable at a young age, always admired athletic directors with the you-know-whats to take a chance on one. With any luck, this group of coaches at this Final Four - who were all 31-or-younger when they got their first head coaching job - will help push more athletic directors to do the same, to take a chance, to worry less about what somebody's done and more about what somebody's built to do.