Republican BS
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First off, Obama had nothing to do with getting Bin Laden. The CIA found him (finally) and a SEAL team killed him. What did Obama do? He watched it on TV. If you want to give Obama credit for something, then credit him for breaking several laws, US laws and international laws. Don't get me wrong, Bin Laden was an evil piece of shit that needed to be put down and I truly love how it was finally done, but let's not go overboard and portray Obama as some king of hero when his ass was sitting in a chair watching real heroes do what needed to be done.
But how can you possibly say that? I'm certainly not going to act like it was President Obama who marched out and got him, but the current president pursued relevant leads, directed the military which he commands to take specific actions, and got the bad guy.
Why are people reluctant to admit the current commander and chief of the armed forces directed said armed forces in such a way that they captured OBL?
Is this President Obama's accomplishment alone? no. Certainly President GW Bush had some impact on this as well. And while I am loath to admit he did anything right, it was GWB's actions while in office that facilitated the demise of Osama BL.
Overall, I think we need to acknowledge that this was a collective effort which included both the previous AND current administration, and the armed forces. Good work to the badasses that actually did the raid, by the way.
A collective effort by all involved. The end result is that a very bad guy is now out of the picture. That's a great big fucking win for America (and many others). Sounds like something we should fight about, and turn into a petty, partisan argument, doesn't it?
Obama did have something to do with it by carrying out President Bush's continued efforts to the letter. Obama getting Bin Laden on his own? How could he have done this without the use of his teleprompter.
Also, keep in mind that Clinton's allowance of terroristic attacks to go unpunished is what gave Bin Laden power in the first place.
meesterperfect
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you's just trying to start trouble.
I known it soon as I sawr that there title Republicin BS
"Republicans are saying" is about the only bs in this thread.
And this is only an assumption but I bet if barrack had his way he would have given Ozama a pass but he knew if word got out it would have ruined him.
StanScratch
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Seriously, you need to do stand up. If you can say that stuff with a straight face, you would be amongst the tops.
^ he should also be a psychic too since he can read Obama's mind 
The SEALS wouldn't have killed OBL unless Obama gave the mission the go ahead, there was the question of a violent muslim backlash as well as a political argument with Pakistan and Obama put himself on the line when authorising this mission. The CIA isn't an independant body and they work on orders from the government which Obama is head of, of course he didn't do the intelligence work or the actual shooting but that isn't his job which is to make the important decisions at the top which could make or break his entire political career. ps How much of an acomplishment is it to shoot an unarmed old man in his underpants in the head, it's pretty obvious Pakistan knew of the mission and turned a blind eye which would explain why they army base next door to the compund didn't notice US helicopters entering their airspace
Obama could've led that mission personally if he wanted and he probably wouldn't have left a plane behind if he had
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^ he should also be a psychic too since he can read Obama's mind
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meesterperfect
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Edit: I predicted I was gonna accidentally double post that.
Did President Obama have 100% to do with the killing of Osama Bin Laden? No. Did he have a part in it? Yes. He's the Commander in Chief, without his order there is no "going in and capturing or killing of Osama Bin Laden".
Why are people so reluctant to give him some credit for the operation? Especially, if the operation had gone south, they would have given Obama 100% of the blame.
Why are people so reluctant to give him some credit for the operation? Especially, if the operation had gone south, they would have given Obama 100% of the blame.
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha....:1orglaugh....(*gasp*..I can't breathe...I..I can't breathe *gasssp*)
One problem Nest...that is about as big a loaf of baloney as I've ever read.
It was Obama who increased the US troop footprint in Afghanistan by 10s of thousands over the 13k Bush (possibly rescuing victory) had there and Obama has probably quintupled the drone activity against AQ and the Taliban.
Obama made the decision as to what operation would join OBL with his demise..He deserves the credit just the same as you would have been blaming him if something went wrong.
Clinton giving OBL power misses about a decade of facts that argues squarely against that assertion.
And it wasn't like Clinton didn't do anything. He just didn't launch a full scale invasion in response to the type of attacks AQ pulled off.
Think back, where from could Clinton have mustered the political will to launch a full scale invasion off of the attacks in the '90s???
GOPers were already accusing him of wagging some dog when he launched missile strikes...how the fuck was he going to invade a country because an embassy and Naval ship got attacked??
If the mission failed Obama would have gotten all the blame. To those who want to give credit to Bush for finding and killing Bin Laden I would agree if Bush is also given credit for the bad state of the economy. You can’t give credit for one and not the other and try to have it both ways.
Obama gave the order to snipe pirates in a covered lifeboat from the stern of a ship at 'sail'.
Result: Dead pirates, one in prison and the captain went home alive to his family.
Obama gave the order to send a team into the borders of another country to get the world's most wanted terrorist in a room in a compound located in that country's West Point town equivalent. Keep in mind...with only a 70-80 pct. certainty OBL was there as they hadn't actually put eyes on him.
Result: One malfunctioning stealth copter is dead..but so is OBL (and fish food).
People trying to slight Obama on the 'nad he's demonstrated and judgement he's made on with respect to these operations are deluded.
Bush’s intelligence team told us that Bin Laden was:
1. Hiding in a cave
2. On kidney dialysis
3. No longer involved in the day to day operation of Al-Qaeda
4. Somewhere in the Mountains
All Wrong!
Bush on Bin Laden 6 months after 9/11:
Bush disbanded the Bin Laden unit at CIA in 1995.
Q: Should we hunt down Bin Laden if he is in Pakistan?
McCain: No
Obama: Yes
You Republican defenders are so full of shit, it is almost comical.
1. Hiding in a cave
2. On kidney dialysis
3. No longer involved in the day to day operation of Al-Qaeda
4. Somewhere in the Mountains
All Wrong!
Bush on Bin Laden 6 months after 9/11:
Bush disbanded the Bin Laden unit at CIA in 1995.
Q: Should we hunt down Bin Laden if he is in Pakistan?
McCain: No
Obama: Yes
You Republican defenders are so full of shit, it is almost comical.
meesterperfect
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Man.....Sir, Obama has gotten plenty of credit. Very few people are saying that he should not be given any credit.
Some are saying that Bush deserves credit too because most of the for lack of a better word actions to catch terrorists were put in place while he was PREZ.
Thats all.
C'mon dude, don't piss on my leg and tell me its raining.
Like I said, Obama is getting plenty of credit from everybody including republicanos.
Don't buy into what hellrazor is selling here, he's just trying to cause controversy were its really not warranted.
josesentme
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That is the thing, right? Barrack made the call. It could have turned out to be a Carter moment, but it wasn't. It worked out.
I don't think Bush is as stupid as people make him out to be. Don't misunderstand that - he made quite a few poor decisions, including going into Iraq.
I don't believe for a second that George let OBL go at Tora Bora with absolute knowledge that he was there. I do think at the point in time that Obama sent in the SEALS to go after Osama, the information was better.
I know people like to equate things. I doubt people will care about my posting, but if they did I could certainly see people quoting one sided links and quotes from people citing the absoluteness of George's bad decisions or Barrack's good decisions (or vice versa). I think the POTUS is a tough gig.
I give some serious respect to Barrack that he made the call. I also thank God that he had the opportunity to do so.
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