Mayhem
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I worship at the alter of Elizabeth Warren. I'd wash her feet if she snapped her fingers. But I'm not sure she could go for the Presidency in 2016 and pull it off. Maybe 2020.
Will the next President of The United States be a Democrat or Republican?
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I worship at the alter of Elizabeth Warren. I'd wash her feet if she snapped her fingers. But I'm not sure she could go for the Presidency in 2016 and pull it off. Maybe 2020.
Mariahxxx
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Elizabeth Warren is the superstar of the democratic party but she may not want to run and deal with all that comes with it. I don't think Hillary is going to run. I hope not. She's worn out thank god. She's severely flawed and a shitty politician, but a lifelong politician who is now too known and predictable and a lot of men dislike her.
I'm afraid they are going to show loyalty and let Biden get a shot but he's an ass and doesn't have a shot at winning. For some reason democrats like him and I have yet to figure out why.
If the Warren decides to run, the republicans better come up with someone who isn't in the game now because there isn't a single person who could win if the election were today.
Jesse Ventura? Really? the guy who says Bush masterminded (biggest oxymoron in history even more than "Jumbo Shrimp") September 11??? who on either side would help him raise money? he's been living in Mexico for years which won't sit well with the anti-brown republicans which is a big %. he had some great ideas once but then he went fucking looney. It figures red-whatever would be a Jesse Ventura fan geez-us
the biggest opponent of the republicans is the republicans themselves. the last election was a disaster. a guy who ran on his ability to manage and rescue blew through nearly 150 million of his own dollars and got beaten in a landslide. And let's not forget the hundreds of millions pumped into his campaign by Karl Rove and Sheldon Adelson alone. Not to mention the arrogance that his team had in being so certain that he was going to win that he didn't even write a concession speech and rode to the vote night party with full secret service detail. I watched the interview with Dick Morris and he was talking about how he had guaranteed Romney to win in a landslide and it cost him his job at Fox. He said the entire party was blind sided by the loss.
So until the republicans come up with some new ideas and toss out some of the old ones i.e. war, war on drugs, gay marriage & healthcare (obamacare) they are going to continue to lose by bigger and bigger margins. As the old republicans die off the younger population is far more liberal than any other generation before.
And the fact that Sarah Palin still has a voice in the party tells you how far away they really are from being a contender again. They can try and send Rubio to be their token or even Bobby Jindal but how many rednecks are going to vote for either one? For fuck's sake half of the country thinks the new Miss America is a Muslim Arab (her parents are from India)
I'm afraid they are going to show loyalty and let Biden get a shot but he's an ass and doesn't have a shot at winning. For some reason democrats like him and I have yet to figure out why.
If the Warren decides to run, the republicans better come up with someone who isn't in the game now because there isn't a single person who could win if the election were today.
Jesse Ventura? Really? the guy who says Bush masterminded (biggest oxymoron in history even more than "Jumbo Shrimp") September 11??? who on either side would help him raise money? he's been living in Mexico for years which won't sit well with the anti-brown republicans which is a big %. he had some great ideas once but then he went fucking looney. It figures red-whatever would be a Jesse Ventura fan geez-us
the biggest opponent of the republicans is the republicans themselves. the last election was a disaster. a guy who ran on his ability to manage and rescue blew through nearly 150 million of his own dollars and got beaten in a landslide. And let's not forget the hundreds of millions pumped into his campaign by Karl Rove and Sheldon Adelson alone. Not to mention the arrogance that his team had in being so certain that he was going to win that he didn't even write a concession speech and rode to the vote night party with full secret service detail. I watched the interview with Dick Morris and he was talking about how he had guaranteed Romney to win in a landslide and it cost him his job at Fox. He said the entire party was blind sided by the loss.
So until the republicans come up with some new ideas and toss out some of the old ones i.e. war, war on drugs, gay marriage & healthcare (obamacare) they are going to continue to lose by bigger and bigger margins. As the old republicans die off the younger population is far more liberal than any other generation before.
And the fact that Sarah Palin still has a voice in the party tells you how far away they really are from being a contender again. They can try and send Rubio to be their token or even Bobby Jindal but how many rednecks are going to vote for either one? For fuck's sake half of the country thinks the new Miss America is a Muslim Arab (her parents are from India)
Elizabeth Warren. LOL please nominate her. First a woman hasn't proven that she can even help win the presidency as a VEEP choice much less win the nomination on her own. Secondly, she hasn't even served a full term up in the D.C. kiwanis club yet. The Clinton machine will destroy her if she starts to pose a threat to Hillary. Yeah she won in Mass but she has to win the south to have a chance even amonst Democrat Primary voters. She ain't got what it takes. Like Rey said the dynamic depends on the economy in 16. Crazy Uncle Joe will be sent out to pasture like Liebermann. I think there will be a surprise on the dem side like an Bayh waiting in the wings. and if Cuomo decides to run he can fuck up New York for Hillary. John Thune would be a good choice although I think it is going to come down to Jeb Bush Chris Christie and Rand Paul for the GOP. The repubs wil run better candidates as a whole the next time around. Way to early for Booker but he has a bright future ahead of him.
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Instead of feigning glee at the prospect of the Republicans running such shitty candidates, I'm just going to say please don't.
Mariahxxx
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Elizabeth Warren will have as much experience in 2016 as Obama had. She is an expert on the economy and has taken on banking and corporations that abuse power for years and believe it or not, the majority of Americans LOVE that. the top % don't because it threatens their free reign over all the wealth and their ability to continue to fuck the average person and continue to shrink the middle class. Hilary proved to be vulnerable and her stats with men are worse than ever. Rand Paul and his fucking hair piece will NEVER win. if it were any more fake it would have a chin strap! he says too much stupid shit. Bush has a name that is poison and he won't run. his mother already said we don't need another bush in the white house. a fucking men to that shit. christie is too volatile and too many republicans dont like him. he's also 150 pounds overweight at least.
A woman hasn't proven she can help win as a VP? same could be said and certainly was said about a black man but here we are, 2 severe ass whippings later he's still in. Average people who don't have trust funds and investments LOVE Warren and what she stands for. They identify with her and see her kicking the shit out of these bankers and politicians. the only people who wouldn't want her to win are the very people that need to put a bullet in their heads. they are the ones cashing the checks and fucking ruining everyone else's quality of life.
Warren is the person I would love to see run.
A woman hasn't proven she can help win as a VP? same could be said and certainly was said about a black man but here we are, 2 severe ass whippings later he's still in. Average people who don't have trust funds and investments LOVE Warren and what she stands for. They identify with her and see her kicking the shit out of these bankers and politicians. the only people who wouldn't want her to win are the very people that need to put a bullet in their heads. they are the ones cashing the checks and fucking ruining everyone else's quality of life.
Warren is the person I would love to see run.
BCT
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This. The next President has already been chosen.
Warren is FUCKING AWESOME! But she can also keep that Massachusetts Senate seat for a really long time. It might be better to keep EW on the Senate Banking Committee for a few election cycles. I think those of us on the left should work our asses off to get more people like her in the House and Senate. It's a mess in there.
Please run 2 old white female lawyers. and if you think the same dynamic that ushered into office the first black president is in play for these 2 broads you are beyond delusional. And the former stay at home mom that did real estate closings on the side from her sun room in Jersey had better step up her game a bit. She can belly ache all she wants and grandstand until the cows come home but she doesn't have an ounce of the charisma that Obama has and will never get the black vote that he enjoyed.
And if by some remote chance she did win the presidency the first thing she is coming after are your guns. She may allow you to your bows and arrows since she is native american. I already said I wouldn't support another Bush but Christie has the lap band in place and he is gonna be a rail by 2016 baby! As for Rand well he is young a closet libertarian and full of energy . So if you think America will elect those 2 hateful old hags then serve them up. Lol
And if by some remote chance she did win the presidency the first thing she is coming after are your guns. She may allow you to your bows and arrows since she is native american. I already said I wouldn't support another Bush but Christie has the lap band in place and he is gonna be a rail by 2016 baby! As for Rand well he is young a closet libertarian and full of energy . So if you think America will elect those 2 hateful old hags then serve them up. Lol
Mayhem
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^^^ Yup.
the next president will be whoever the money powers want it to be, elephant or donkey, it does not matter when you own both horses in the race
Mayhem
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If that were true, explain Romney getting shitcanned in a landslide.
as I just stated, either way, the money backing both of them wins, not the people who cast votes expecting any real change for the better, remember you can have a choice of either a blue car or a red car but don't look at anything else in the showroom because that is not an option for you
just look at who the top campaign donors were for both candidates, that should not be to hard to find
bobjustbob
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I hate you Mayhem. You just put a very reasonable thought out there. The Pubs somehow making Romney into a Bill Clinton-ish,"I'm not your candidate but you get me too" kind of thing. Those stupid bastards might somehow think that a Mitt block could ever exist. Somewhere someone is is going to latch onto him. He has enough money to convince more than one of them he is still relevant.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?id=N00000286
https://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?id=N00009638
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=n00009638&cycle=2008
now Obama was Goldman Sach's boy in the 2008 elections but in this election Goldman switched the majority of its donations to Mittens, maybe in the next election Goldman will back a democrat again and maybe a republican the one after that SMH
https://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?id=N00009638
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=n00009638&cycle=2008
now Obama was Goldman Sach's boy in the 2008 elections but in this election Goldman switched the majority of its donations to Mittens, maybe in the next election Goldman will back a democrat again and maybe a republican the one after that SMH
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