Who are you voting/rooting for in this years election

Who are you voting/rooting for?

  • Democrats: John Kerry/John Edwards

    Votes: 64 57.1%
  • Republicans: George W. Bush/Dick Cheney

    Votes: 35 31.3%
  • Reform Party: Ralph Nader/Peter Camejo

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Green Party: David Cobb/Pat LaMarche

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Other third party canidate

    Votes: 2 1.8%
  • No one

    Votes: 9 8.0%

  • Total voters
    112
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Brino

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georges said:
you are so immature and so fucking childish damn taht is unbelievable.you remember the michael moore thread, do a search with michael moore and you will find by yourself the answer in that thread.

I dont need to do that, I know what I said and didnt say.

I have defended Moore in the past but I never said his movies were entirely true.
 
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Brino said:
How do you know he's not the right guy for the job? All you know about him is the rhetoric you hear from the right and you have no idea how he'll perform as president. Remember, they were saying the same things about Clinton before he got elected and you liked him!

I liked Clinton BEFORE he was elected. Trust me, John Kerry is NOT President material. He has no character, he has nothing to inspire people. He is all over the place, on every thing. I realize running for such a high position is a new thing for him, and he should follow the advice of some others, but he should atleast take the bulls by the horn, and show he is a leader. He has yet to do that to any major degree. He is just not a strong candidate. And voting for him to be put in office, just to get rid of Bush, is the dumbest possible thing you can do.

Brino said:
The same could be said about the Bush administration.

Jesus Christ Brino. Open your eyes. The Demos had the chance to say these things about Bush 4 years ago, and didn't. Now they do. Seems odd doesn't it. Maybe if you guys could come up with a real candidate, then you'd have a chance. There has been no movie made about John Kerry that is 100% lies and mis-information. There is one about Bush. Deal with that. The only way you can make Bush look bad is by lying, and twisting the truth. Anybody can make Kerry look bad but just revisiting his life. Don't be mad at me, Georges, Bush or the Republicans, be mad at the Democraps for not being able to put up a real, honest fight for the White House.
 
Brino said:
And is there anything that could change your mind about voting for Bush?

btw that home ownership thing is a scam! Home ownership is up every year! It's misleading to say that it's the presidents tax cuts doing it because home ownership has been up even without the taxcuts!

If we did not have a war on terror, I would definitely consider changing my vote. However, I am not in favor or a liberal Mass. democrat and a trial lawyer with 6 years of experience.

There are many things that I dislike about Bush..............immigration for one. I cringe at the thought that bigdan can come into our country ;). I am pro choice etc. The US does not need a president that will treat terriorism like a crime. It is war. I don't like it. Nobody likes it. Unfortunately, if you are a non-Muslim, you are a target. I don't like that and you probably don't like it either.

Brino, please, you are a sharp kid, but believe me, I know quite a bit about home ownership. I guess you would call that my profession, so I would consider myself an expert.

Go to school, study economics, save some money, buy a house and then we may be able to talk on level ground on this subject. When you get away from filing the 1040EZ form, you will begin to reconsider a lot of things in life.

As for you, InspectorXXX, we agree on women, however, we are miles apart on this one.

Ranger
 
Ranger said:


There are many things that I dislike about Bush..............immigration for one. I cringe at the thought that bigdan can come into our country ;). I am pro choice etc. The US does not need a president that will treat terriorism like a crime. It is war. I don't like it. Nobody likes it. Unfortunately, if you are a non-Muslim, you are a target. I don't like that and you probably don't like it either.

Ranger

Don't worry, i don't have any intention of going to the US pretty, so your country is safe. ;)
 

Brino

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Dirty Sanchez said:
I liked Clinton BEFORE he was elected. Trust me, John Kerry is NOT President material. He has no character, he has nothing to inspire people. He is all over the place, on every thing. I realize running for such a high position is a new thing for him, and he should follow the advice of some others, but he should atleast take the bulls by the horn, and show he is a leader. He has yet to do that to any major degree. He is just not a strong candidate. And voting for him to be put in office, just to get rid of Bush, is the dumbest possible thing you can do.

Again, The majority of the stuff you hear about Kerry's record is bullshit right wing rhetoric. I'm hearing all this criticism of Kerry for not being Presidential material but what about Bush? That guy is definately not presidential material. The debate between the two of them is all the proof I need. You had Kerry who was calm. cool, and collected everybit the model of a president. And then you had Bush who was annoyed and kept babbling the same crap over and over again everybit the model of somebody who shouldnt be the president. That's one of the many reasons my vote goes to Kerry!

Jesus Christ Brino. Open your eyes. The Demos had the chance to say these things about Bush 4 years ago, and didn't. Now they do. Seems odd doesn't it. Maybe if you guys could come up with a real candidate, then you'd have a chance. There has been no movie made about John Kerry that is 100% lies and mis-information. There is one about Bush. Deal with that. The only way you can make Bush look bad is by lying, and twisting the truth. Anybody can make Kerry look bad but just revisiting his life. Don't be mad at me, Georges, Bush or the Republicans, be mad at the Democraps for not being able to put up a real, honest fight for the White House.

No there hasnt been a movie but there have been hundreds of ads lying about him.

I do agree however that the democrats should have been talking about these issues 4 years ago but back then Bush didnt really have a national record to talk about, now he does. And I'm not going to complain about the democratic party for making a few mistakes but you should be complaining about this administration for all the mistakes theyve made. What their doing isnt conservative and even other conservatives are saying so!
 

Brino

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Ranger said:
If we did not have a war on terror, I would definitely consider changing my vote. However, I am not in favor or a liberal Mass. democrat and a trial lawyer with 6 years of experience.

There are many things that I dislike about Bush..............immigration for one. I cringe at the thought that bigdan can come into our country ;). I am pro choice etc. The US does not need a president that will treat terriorism like a crime. It is war. I don't like it. Nobody likes it. Unfortunately, if you are a non-Muslim, you are a target. I don't like that and you probably don't like it either.

Brino, please, you are a sharp kid, but believe me, I know quite a bit about home ownership. I guess you would call that my profession, so I would consider myself an expert.

Go to school, study economics, save some money, buy a house and then we may be able to talk on level ground on this subject. When you get away from filing the 1040EZ form, you will begin to reconsider a lot of things in life.

As for you, InspectorXXX, we agree on women, however, we are miles apart on this one.

Ranger

Ok, tell me what you know about Homeownership and tell me why the president is so good with this issue.

I would also like to know what differences you think GWB has with Kerry on the issue of terrorism, other than the fact that Kerry would actually go after the right guy!
 

georges

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Brino said:
Again, The majority of the stuff you hear about Kerry's record is bullshit right wing rhetoric. I'm hearing all this criticism of Kerry for not being Presidential material but what about Bush? That guy is definately not presidential material. The debate between the two of them is all the proof I need. You had Kerry who was calm. cool, and collected everybit the model of a president. And then you had Bush who was annoyed and kept babbling the same crap over and over again everybit the model of somebody who shouldnt be the president. That's one of the many reasons my vote goes to Kerry!
No there hasnt been a movie but there have been hundreds of ads lying about him.
I do agree however that the democrats should have been talking about these issues 4 years ago but back then Bush didnt really have a national record to talk about, now he does. And I'm not going to complain about the democratic party for making a few mistakes but you should be complaining about this administration for all the mistakes theyve made. What their doing isnt conservative and even other conservatives are saying so!

bullshit right wing rethoric about kerry , i can say the same about pinko leftist commie shit made about bush.Was kerry a brilliant senator or something like that?NO he wasn't.People don't care about who is cool, people care about a person who protects their soil.Being calm, weak and trying to solve problems by negotiations with terrorists isn't the solution.Kerry has definitely not the strenght of being of president.You want people paying for others, free social security and probably other laws of this type those are the reasons why your vote goes for kerry.We have seen enough who was kerry and we know who is who.You are talking for all conservatives? Back up your argument with solid proofs and don't talk for the others. THis administration did a decent job.
 
Brino said:
Again, The majority of the stuff you hear about Kerry's record is bullshit right wing rhetoric. I'm hearing all this criticism of Kerry for not being Presidential material but what about Bush? That guy is definately not presidential material. The debate between the two of them is all the proof I need. You had Kerry who was calm. cool, and collected everybit the model of a president. And then you had Bush who was annoyed and kept babbling the same crap over and over again everybit the model of somebody who shouldnt be the president. That's one of the many reasons my vote goes to Kerry!

Dear Lord. You are using a debate to determine who you think would be a better leader?!?!? Jesus Christ Brino, you have sunk to a new low. Great, Kerry (in your opinion) performed better in something in had 2 weeks to prepare for. Fantastic. I know that when it becomes crunch time, we'll just have to give him a 10 day advance to make sure he doesn't wonder around the Captiol Building like he did Sept.11.

No there hasnt been a movie but there have been hundreds of ads lying about him.

There have been hundreds of ads lying about Bush. Christ, CBS ran a piece on Busg that was 100% bull shit. 2 way street Brino, realize that my friend.

I do agree however that the democrats should have been talking about these issues 4 years ago but back then Bush didnt really have a national record to talk about, now he does.

His record was the same 4 years ago, as it is now. But when their "war hero" tunred out to be a sham, they had to go in a new direction. If Bush's time in the Guard was this important, it should have come out before. Bringing it out now is showing just how desperate and unsuited the Demos are.

And I'm not going to complain about the democratic party for making a few mistakes but you should be complaining about this administration for all the mistakes theyve made. What their doing isnt conservative and even other conservatives are saying so!

You not going to admit the mistakes Clinton made, and yet was re-elected? You not going to admit that this is typical Democrate/Liberal campaining to promise everything under the sun, but show no real way to delievering it?
 
Clinton approval rating was through the roof when he left office, even tough Kenneth Starr threw everything he could imagine to tarnish the Clinton era... If Bush is such a "great" president, his approval rating should be really high... well guess what, its not, so right there, you have to ask yourself a question... do i want the same president who put us in this situation OR do you want somebody else to clean up that mess ? I think the choice is really obvious... :2 cents:
 
Brino said:
Ok, tell me what you know about Homeownership and tell me why the president is so good with this issue.

I would also like to know what differences you think GWB has with Kerry on the issue of terrorism, other than the fact that Kerry would actually go after the right guy!

I don't need to waste the time on you. You were getting rides from your mom to Saturday soccer games when I started in the construction business.:moon:

Stick to your distorted view on politics.

Yeah, Kerry will get the right guy, just like his pick for VP, a fricking slimy trial lawyer.:rofl: :rofl:

Ranger
 
bigdan1110 said:
Clinton approval rating was through the roof when he left office, even tough Kenneth Starr threw everything he could imagine to tarnish the Clinton era... If Bush is such a "great" president, his approval rating should be really high... well guess what, its not, so right there, you have to ask yourself a question... do i want the same president who put us in this situation OR do you want somebody else to clean up that mess ? I think the choice is really obvious... :2 cents:

Little bit of fact you missed. Clinton left office after his 2nd term, Bush is about to start his. Lets give it 4 more years.

And what does that say about the Demos. If Clinton was so great, why couldn't the Party, or Gore, capture that vote and turn it into another victory? Face it, Gore, Kerry and the Democrates are not up to snuff.

do i want the same president who put us in this situation OR do you want somebody else to clean up that mess ?

Please, dear God, show me where Kerry has laid out how he will fix what you call a problem. Where, and what is his fool proof plan that will solve your problems? Come on Dan, haven't you seen enough of this from our Liberals? Remember Chreiten promising to ditch the GST, TWICE!!! Still have that don't we? Remember Martin saying he would get to the bottom of ADscam? We any closer there? What about his pledge to add to our Armned Forces (as a Canadian Soldier has died from a fire in one of our Subs that we bought used)?

Just because Kerry has said he has a solution, doesn't mean he actually has one. Guess what Dan, my cock is huge. Well, don't ask me to prove, just believe me OK?

That "mess" will get cleaned up when everyone gets on board instead of bitching about it and giving these terrorists motivation.

I don't care how long it takes, how much it costs, or how many lives are lost. I want every single person, who wishes to cause harm on the innocent, dead and gone. If everyone in the World thought that, these murders would be gone. But by whining and bitching, it gives them motivation to just hang on a bit more, take a few more lives, and hope the sweethearts get their way.
 

georges

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very good posts ranger and dirty sanchez:hatsoff::thumbsup:

regards

georges:georges:
 
Why get on board with him ? I enjoy debating different views, that's the problem in the States, people can only debate during the year before the election... if the people would wake up and start asking question before election year... now every republicans slam Kerry and we could not do the same with Bush...
Excuse me, but its important to tell the people all the wrong doing of the Bush administration, and if he's reelected and he gets the job done in Irak, i will applaud him, but the way that's its doing right now, i really doubt it...

Btw Sanchez, i never like Chretien, and i found it really stupid to buy some used submarine from the Brits... we have companies right here in Canada that could build us really great submarine, but they choose to go the cheap way... man i can't believe that we're stuck with those stupid liberals in power for the next few years...
 
bigdan1110 said:
Why get on board with him ? I enjoy debating different views, that's the problem in the States, people can only debate during the year before the election... if the people would wake up and start asking question before election year... now every republicans slam Kerry and we could not do the same with Bush...
Excuse me, but its important to tell the people all the wrong doing of the Bush administration, and if he's reelected and he gets the job done in Irak, i will applaud him, but the way that's its doing right now, i really doubt it...

Btw Sanchez, i never like Chretien, and i found it really stupid to buy some used submarine from the Brits... we have companies right here in Canada that could build us really great submarine, but they choose to go the cheap way... man i can't believe that we're stuck with those stupid liberals in power for the next few years...
why does canada need a sub?
 
harold said:
why does canada need a sub?

Because we turn our back on our closest allies when they needed our help.

Our helicopter's don't fly, our subs sink when they don't catch on fire. Ain't our Military grand? Thats what happens when Liberals/Democrates run the country.
 
Don't expect to get much further East then Ottawa. There are a ton of people just begging to kick some frog ass.

Not really too concerned though, the french don't exactly have threatening track record when it comes to fighting for land.
 

Brino

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Dirty Sanchez said:
Dear Lord. You are using a debate to determine who you think would be a better leader?!?!? Jesus Christ Brino, you have sunk to a new low. Great, Kerry (in your opinion) performed better in something in had 2 weeks to prepare for. Fantastic. I know that when it becomes crunch time, we'll just have to give him a 10 day advance to make sure he doesn't wonder around the Captiol Building like he did Sept.11.

You know as well as I do that my vote isnt based on who wins the debates but kudos on changing the subject, one day you may be just as good as Cheny.

There have been hundreds of ads lying about Bush. Christ, CBS ran a piece on Busg that was 100% bull shit. 2 way street Brino, realize that my friend.

I do realize that but your the one that doesnt, after all your the one that keeps portraying Bush as the victim.

His record was the same 4 years ago, as it is now. But when their "war hero" tunred out to be a sham, they had to go in a new direction. If Bush's time in the Guard was this important, it should have come out before. Bringing it out now is showing just how desperate and unsuited the Demos are.

No it wasnt, god this is easily the stupidist thing youve said. Your essentially implying that Bush didnt do anything during the past four years and you know what, I agree with you.

You not going to admit the mistakes Clinton made, and yet was re-elected? You not going to admit that this is typical Democrate/Liberal campaining to promise everything under the sun, but show no real way to delievering it?

Clinton made some mistakes, there are you happy. He still didnt make nearly as many mistakes as GWB. Oh and guess what, GWB promised a whole lot in his 2000 campaign and he still hasnt delivered, two way street Sanchez.
 

Brino

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Ranger said:
I don't need to waste the time on you. You were getting rides from your mom to Saturday soccer games when I started in the construction business.:moon:

Stick to your distorted view on politics.

Yeah, Kerry will get the right guy, just like his pick for VP, a fricking slimy trial lawyer.:rofl: :rofl:

Ranger

More lies coming from the right, I didnt play soccer. :D
 
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