Who are you voting/rooting for in this years election

[georges]

You know as well as I do that my vote isnt based on who wins the debates but kudos on changing the subject, one day you may be just as good as Cheny.

I do realize that but your the one that doesnt, after all your the one that keeps portraying Bush as the victim.

No it wasnt, god this is easily the stupidist thing youve said. Your essentially implying that Bush didnt do anything during the past four years and you know what, I agree with you.

Clinton made some mistakes, there are you happy. He still didnt make nearly as many mistakes as GWB. Oh and guess what, GWB promised a whole lot in his 2000 campaign and he still hasnt delivered, two way street Sanchez.

Maybe should i say that portray kerry as the victim.kerry lied and cheated for his medals especially when he had self inflicted woundsso he is a liar and will always be.

bush has done a decent job but not for you because you don't like the way he is leading the country you prefer a paying for the others system.

clinton didn't make nothing to prevent atatcks, he didn't catch osama when he had teh opportunity, he fucked up the situation in somalia (the exit strategy was a mediocre and coward strategy) the oslo talks and cmap david talks were useless because olp backs up hamas and other terrorists so it was another crap made during clinton. you maybe prefer people paying for the others like in an assisted system but not many people want this.

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

You know as well as I do that my vote isnt based on who wins the debates but kudos on changing the subject, one day you may be just as good as Cheny.

Brino, YOU brought the debate up as a determining factor on why you think one person is a better choice, YOU!! Don't slither away once you get called on it (ie John Kerry).

I do realize that but your the one that doesnt, after all your the one that keeps portraying Bush as the victim..

No Brino, when you cry about all the attacks on Kerry, I'm just reminding you that Bush is facing the same things. Again, its like your photo shopped pictures you post all the time. They are fun and cool when they go against Bush, but as soon as one goes up making Kerry look bad, you get defensive.

"People who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones."

No it wasnt, god this is easily the stupidist thing youve said. Your essentially implying that Bush didnt do anything during the past four years and you know what, I agree with you..

Brino, stay on track. I was commenting on Bush's service record. 4 years ago, the Demos had the chance to talk about it, but they didn't. Now, 4 years later, they feel it's that important to the American public that it should be brought up. Why? If GWB's time in the Air National Guard, or lack there of, is that important to the voters, why was it not mentioned 4 years ago? Re-read my post concerning this, it wasn't about the last 4 years Bush had in office, we are talking about the two men's time in the Military.

Clinton made some mistakes, there are you happy. He still didnt make nearly as many mistakes as GWB. Oh and guess what, GWB promised a whole lot in his 2000 campaign and he still hasnt delivered, two way street Sanchez.

Say's you. Clinton dropped the ball in Somolia. Clinton missed the chance to take out bin laden, and quite frankly, prevent Sept. 11. And after that event, America, and the World changed. You can promise your kids a trip to Disney Land if they get good grades, but if someone sets your house on fire, your priorities change. In the short run, your children will be upset, but in the long run, you did what was best for your family.

 

[Anime Pornstar]

Clinton dropped the ball in Somolia.

How so?

 

[Brino]

Brino, YOU brought the debate up as a determining factor on why you think one person is a better choice, YOU!! Don't slither away once you get called on it (ie John Kerry).

Yes I brought up the debate as a determining factor for UNDECIDED voters.

No Brino, when you cry about all the attacks on Kerry, I'm just reminding you that Bush is facing the same things. Again, its like your photo shopped pictures you post all the time. They are fun and cool when they go against Bush, but as soon as one goes up making Kerry look bad, you get defensive.

"People who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones."

Dude, how many times do I have to tell you I make fun of Kerry as well.

Brino, stay on track. I was commenting on Bush's service record. 4 years ago, the Demos had the chance to talk about it, but they didn't. Now, 4 years later, they feel it's that important to the American public that it should be brought up. Why? If GWB's time in the Air National Guard, or lack there of, is that important to the voters, why was it not mentioned 4 years ago? Re-read my post concerning this, it wasn't about the last 4 years Bush had in office, we are talking about the two men's time in the Military.

Well the same could be said about Kerry, afterall he's ran for senate many times and this is the first time he's been attacked concerning Vietnam.

Say's you. Clinton dropped the ball in Somolia. Clinton missed the chance to take out bin laden, and quite frankly, prevent Sept. 11. And after that event, America, and the World changed. You can promise your kids a trip to Disney Land if they get good grades, but if someone sets your house on fire, your priorities change. In the short run, your children will be upset, but in the long run, you did what was best for your family.

How So?

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

Yes I brought up the debate as a determining factor for UNDECIDED voters.

By suggesting the better debater would make the better CiC is silly. GWB is not a great public speaker, but a fantastic leader. On the other hand, Kerry is a good public speaker, and a lousy leader.

Dude, how many times do I have to tell you I make fun of Kerry as well.

Love to see it Brino. Please, show me. I do know that you love your photo shopped pics of Bush, but get upset when some one does it to Kerry. I can point out these incidences.

Well the same could be said about Kerry, afterall he's ran for senate many times and this is the first time he's been attacked concerning Vietnam.

Are you comparing a seat in the Senate to the President of the United States of America?? Brino, please, stay on track.

How So?

He didn't provide the proper equipment to the solders (most notably armed vehicles or gun ships on that now infamous raid). He didn't send in specialized CIA operatives to gather much needed and sought after intel before launching raids. Because they didn't have proper intel, they couldn't perform their mission as quick as Washington wanted it done, constantly putting pressure to go ahead with knowing the best case scenario. And once that raid took place (Watch Black Hawk Down, or better yet, read the book), when Durant was held hostage, Clinton with drew his troops. Which prompted bin laden to call America a "paper tiger". bin laden felt from that one incident, while America was big and strong, he knew that it would only allow a few casualties before quitting. He dropped the ball, then, and again when he had the chance to take out bin laden, and didn't.

 

[Brino]

Love to see it Brino. Please, show me. I do know that you love your photo shopped pics of Bush, but get upset when some one does it to Kerry. I can point out these incidences.

Half way down the page!
http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18750&perpage=25&pagenumber=2

Your intelligence is about as faulty as Bush's!

 

[Bobbi Eden]

Im not Amercian, but I think Kerry

Bobbi Eden

 

[member5726]

Bobbi Eden[/URL][/B]"]Im not Amercian, but I think Kerry

Bobbi Eden

One more good reason to vote Kerry !! :nanner:

Bobbi :iloveyou:

 

[georges]

Brino, YOU brought the debate up as a determining factor on why you think one person is a better choice, YOU!! Don't slither away once you get called on it (ie John Kerry).


No Brino, when you cry about all the attacks on Kerry, I'm just reminding you that Bush is facing the same things. Again, its like your photo shopped pictures you post all the time. They are fun and cool when they go against Bush, but as soon as one goes up making Kerry look bad, you get defensive.
"People who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones."

Brino, stay on track. I was commenting on Bush's service record. 4 years ago, the Demos had the chance to talk about it, but they didn't. Now, 4 years later, they feel it's that important to the American public that it should be brought up. Why? If GWB's time in the Air National Guard, or lack there of, is that important to the voters, why was it not mentioned 4 years ago? Re-read my post concerning this, it wasn't about the last 4 years Bush had in office, we are talking about the two men's time in the Military.

Say's you. Clinton dropped the ball in Somolia. Clinton missed the chance to take out bin laden, and quite frankly, prevent Sept. 11. And after that event, America, and the World changed. You can promise your kids a trip to Disney Land if they get good grades, but if someone sets your house on fire, your priorities change. In the short run, your children will be upset, but in the long run, you did what was best for your family.

Agreed with you. As brino said referring to somalia, the exit strategy from somalia was something intelligent but in fact it was just a mediocre and coward strategy.
Clinton has a big part of responsability of sept 11, he had the opportunity to prevent the attacks and catch Osama but he didn't do it.
Also another point on which i agree with you and that i mentionned earlier in one of my posts it is the way that brino makes of fun of Bush by posting these childish meaningless pics but when someone criticizes his beloved Kerry then it is not fair.
Isn't that somewhat contradictory?

 

[Anime Pornstar]

He didn't provide the proper equipment to the solders (most notably armed vehicles or gun ships on that now infamous raid).

True. It was a political decision that we were very angry about at the time. It cost the lives of some of my friends.

He didn't send in specialized CIA operatives to gather much needed and sought after intel before launching raids. Because they didn't have proper intel, they couldn't perform their mission as quick as Washington wanted it done, constantly putting pressure to go ahead with knowing the best case scenario.

Wrong. The CIA had agents in Mogadishu. I saw them.

Intel wasn't the problem. They raid was done in daylight, a major gamble. It didn't pay off.

And once that raid took place (Watch Black Hawk Down, or better yet, read the book),

I have seen the movie and read the book. But I didn't need to, I was there.

when Durant was held hostage, Clinton with drew his troops. Which prompted bin laden to call America a "paper tiger". bin laden felt from that one incident, while America was big and strong, he knew that it would only allow a few casualties before quitting. He dropped the ball, then, and again when he had the chance to take out bin laden, and didn't.

Wrong again. When they were holding Durant, we were reinforced with an armored battalion from Germany and an air wing from the USS Lincoln. Aidid was given a chance to return Durant or we were going to kick his ass for good. He offered a cease-fire and returned Durant.

The decision to leave Somolia was based on the fact that Nation Building was impossible when half the city was unwilling to co-operate with the UN. The Somolis made their bed and now they can lie in it. Fuck 'em.

 

[Brino]

Agreed with you. As brino said referring to somalia, the exit strategy from somalia was something intelligent but in fact it was just a mediocre and coward strategy.
Clinton has a big part of responsability of sept 11, he had the opportunity to prevent the attacks and catch Osama but he didn't do it.
Also another point on which i agree with you and that i mentionned earlier in one of my posts it is the way that brino makes of fun of Bush by posting these childish meaningless pics but when someone criticizes his beloved Kerry then it is not fair.
Isn't that somewhat contradictory?

What did I just post georges? Can you even fucking read!?

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

Half way down the page!
http://board.freeones.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18750&perpage=25&pagenumber=2

Your intelligence is about as faulty as Bush's!

Wow, you call that humor? Brino, those where lame, and even if you want to compare them to what you post of Bush (I wouldn't, but I'm a smart dude), it's a drop in the bucket compared to your Bush bashing. It in no way defends your actions, and still are clearly in love with John Kerry.

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

Wrong. The CIA had agents in Mogadishu. I saw them.

If there were CIA agents there (which from the people I heard speak who actually proved they were there) said there were none. The bigger issue was that they weren't sent in before the Military arrived to do more prep work. That is what truly bothered that guy named Major General Garrison

Intel wasn't the problem. They raid was done in daylight, a major It didn't pay off.

Intel would have been the problem if the best chances they had at accomplish their mission was to begin it in the afternoon. Many soldiers felt that mission was forced into actions because of the lack of success they had had to that date.

Wrong again. When they were holding Durant, we were reinforced with an armored battalion from Germany and an air wing from the USS Lincoln. Aidid was given a chance to return Durant or we were going to kick his ass for good. He offered a cease-fire and returned Durant.

And then what happened? You packed up and left. Clinton didn't provide you the right equipment or specialists, and then when things went bad, he pulled away, giving bin laden a new hope in defeating the US.

The decision to leave Somolia was based on the fact that Nation Building was impossible when half the city was unwilling to co-operate with the UN. The Somolis made their bed and now they can lie in it. Fuck 'em.

The decision was based on the nightly news coverage of American bodies being dragged around the street., The public out cry forced Clinton to pull out before more dead Americans were shown on TV, He caved, and again, gave bin laden hope and desire.

 

[Brino]

Wow, you call that humor? Brino, those where lame, and even if you want to compare them to what you post of Bush (I wouldn't, but I'm a smart dude), it's a drop in the bucket compared to your Bush bashing. It in no way defends your actions, and still are clearly in love with John Kerry.

I wasn't aware I was defending my actions. The point was whether I ever made fun of Kerry and you like an ass said I didnt, well I proved you wrong.

 

[Brino]

By suggesting the better debater would make the better CiC is silly. GWB is not a great public speaker, but a fantastic leader. On the other hand, Kerry is a good public speaker, and a lousy leader.

Tell that to all the undecided voters who switched to Kerry after the debates.

Are you comparing a seat in the Senate to the President of the United States of America?? Brino, please, stay on track.

They are both political elections, granted one is on a larger scale than the other. Still the question remains, why didnt anybody attack Kerry on the issue of Vietnam before he ran for president?

 

[georges]

I wasn't aware I was defending my actions. The point was whether I ever made fun of Kerry and you like an ass said I didnt, well I proved you wrong.

Count how much childish pics of bush you posted and how much childish pics of kerry you posted.Don't forget the stupid childish games and do the math you posted more childish shit on Bush than Kerry so you are wrong again.

 

[georges]

Tell that to all the undecided voters who switched to Kerry after the debates.

They are both political elections, granted one is on a larger scale than the other. Still the question remains, why didnt anybody attack Kerry on the issue of Vietnam before he ran for president?

I would like to know how many people switched for kerry.Don't forget that not all the students vote and among the students who vote many of them are pro Kerry.

People waited the opportunity to attack Kerry on the right moment. It is when he is running for election.The best moment to attack him.

 

[MightyKrendall]

I personally think Bush has done a great job. He has the balls to take on terrorists to make America and the world a safer place. I also like his economic plans which will (eventually) bring more prosperity to this country.

As for Kerry, I can't vote for someone when I have no clue where they stand on the issues.

 

[georges]

I personally think Bush has done a great job. He has the balls to take on terrorists to make America and the world a safer place. I also like his economic plans which will (eventually) bring more prosperity to this country.

As for Kerry, I can't vote for someone when I have no clue where they stand on the issues.

I agree with your post

regards

georges:georges:

 

[Dirty Sanchez]

Tell that to all the undecided voters who switched to Kerry after the debates.

Oh, so were back to believing polls again are we?

Good, elect the guy who can talk the talk, but can't walk the walk.

Go ahead, elect the guy who did a better job dancing around the issues. Michael Moore is right, American's are stupid.

They are both political elections, granted one is on a larger scale than the other. Still the question remains, why didnt anybody attack Kerry on the issue of Vietnam before he ran for president?

Well, and correct me if I'm wrong, when John Kerry was running for a seat in the Senate, there was no war going on, so he couldn't talk about being a War Hero.

And to be honest, I don't think many people really cared what happened in 'Nam, until Kerry and his band of merry morons brought it up to try and show what a great guy he was.

Point being Brino, running for a seat in the Senate, is no where close to being as big as running to be the POTUS. The fact that you don't realize that, is really quite pathetic