What gives us the right to eat other creatures?

Elwood70

Torn & Frayed.
I've just finished reading this entire thread,and I have but one thing to add:

I'm hungry.
 
The Food Chain..
 
Darwinism and evolution.

Check your teeth, check your maulers, check your digestive system....
if we weren't supposed to eat meat and only greenies, we would have had
the same dentals as cows and 4 stomaches.....
We are not the top of the food chain, when opportunity knocks we are eaten too by other species who also do not give a rats behind about the "prey" and consider us to be a snack.
The only thing that has changed for 99% of the people is that we do not hunt for meat anymore but breed it. Easy peasy!
Enjoy your carrot while I devour my steak!
 

Spleen

Banned?
Everything eats everything else, so why can't we join in the fun?
 
My native ancestors hunted and used the animals for food, clothing and other basic human needs for survival. If it wasn't the instinct for survival, then the human race would probably died out along time ago.
 
The Cat Eats The Mouse. The Lion Eats the Gazelle.

This sounds a little like Mother Goose. Those rhymes we learned in Kindergarten were meant to teach us basic truths.

Humpty Dumpty, for example, teaches us that government never can and never will fix the problems of societies and individuals. Quite the opposite is true. Humpty Dumpty's fall was caused, in the first place, due to the shoddy construction of that Government financed wall! Humpty had been bamboozled into thinking his government would always take care of him. When the government showed up to help Humpty, they were completely baffled. Just like our government trying to fix the economic woes with their T.A.R.P. T.A.R.P. is only creating a bigger problem for us all.

So, back to the topic of this thread. The food chain, survival of the fittest, moral reasoning, and self preservation give us the neccesity to eat both plants and animals in an expeditious and judicious manner. To do otherwise is to disrupt the circle of life thrusting evolutionary order into utter Chaos.
 

METAL HEAD

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Its not like they dont try too act us when we try too kill them. So in that case its survival of the fittest from both perspectives.
 
Someone tried to convince me that eating meat was murder. My response was as soon as we arrest all of the humans who eat meat someone has to go around and arrest all of those lions, tigers, bears, etc. who are continuing to "murder" other animals.

Their argument was anything that can "feel pain upon death" can be murdered...I said, well, to avoid murder charges I would need from them suggestions as to how I could negotiate a peaceful resolution to whatever territorial disputes may arise upon the invasion of my home by unwanted insects or rodents.

All I got was a laugh...:confused:
 
I wish I could eat this thread... after killing it and cooking it over hot coals for a day or two.

Since I can't kill it, I just hope it dies on its own - but it won't!
 

RealMenSwallow

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What gives you the right to post a thread on a forum? Or to have sex? Or to pick who you have sex with? Or to have a child? These are all very valid questions that have no answers. Simply give it a "because I can" reply. All this speculation is just speculation and will never lead anywhere other than just that. It's like asking which came first the chicken or the egg? Or is there really a heaven, and can you prove it? These questions are unanswerable. There's no right or wrong to this equation. Do what makes you happy. That's why we're all alive.
 
Do what makes you happy. That's why we're all alive.

Well, some of us are trying but there are those who (for example) say that eating meat is not simply a choice but "murder".

The problem is those people are willing to try and impede your right to do what makes you happy in this case and don't accept that it's your right.
 
I've discussed this before in my thread specifically about "rights". You have the right to exist...until you die (assuming that you exist in the first place. You don't have the right to be created). Aside from a few more simple things like that, you don't have any other rights, you have ideas that are invented and practiced by people and so they can be created or revoked however you wish.

RMS perfectly described it.

All this talk about "natural law" is mumbo jumbo and it is just because people lack the strength of thought to clearly express their motivational reasoning. Not that they need one. "Because I feel like it" probably won't convince anyone that you know what you are talking about, but that doesn't mean that it won't convince yourself that it's the truth.
 
It would be one thing if the animals offered their bodies for our consumption. But they aren't able to say no. The fact that they run away to not be sent to a meat house should be enough to tell us that they don't want to be eaten. I realize other animals don't care but we are gifted with a more evolved brain. Maybe if people didn't torture and totally ruin the lives of the animals that eventually are going to be put down the throat of a human, I'd be more understanding but I still don't see why the muscles of animals have to be consumed in order to help our muscles and not the other way.
 
are you a vegetarian freerayn? just wondering, you don't have to answer that if You don't want to.
 
i suppose one could point to the animal world and say the lion doesn't ask the gazelle if it wants to be eaten, rather the lion kills it without question. mind you the lion doesn't have the capacity for contemplation while, on the other hand, we humans do. so while we have the capacity to recognize other animals for their ability to suffer perhaps we should no longer eat them without question. however, in the end it comes down to this: some people like to eat meat and therefore eat it.
 
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