SHOCK: McCain Volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh... 'B' carved into face.
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Re: SHOCK: McCain Volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh... 'B' carved into f
If someone had just beat the crap out of you and then held a knife against your face, I suspect you might stop fighting too.
OR he was standing over her backwards as she lay on the ground. As in, instead of climbing over her chest (and giving her a great opportunity to punch him in the balls), he simply leaned over her face from above her head.
If someone had just beat the crap out of you and then held a knife against your face, I suspect you might stop fighting too.
Tubular said:
OR he was standing over her backwards as she lay on the ground. As in, instead of climbing over her chest (and giving her a great opportunity to punch him in the balls), he simply leaned over her face from above her head.
ChefChiTown
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Re: SHOCK: McCain Volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh... 'B' carved into f
If someone held a KNIFE to my face, and pressed it against my skin, it would've done a lot more than barely create slightly discolored red marks on my face. Look at the picture...it's so fake looking, like this girl set this all up and knew it was going to happen. Allow me to play detective for a moment...
Notice how her left eye is the black eye. This would mean that the attacker was right handed. Being right handed, the attacker would've hit her with his right hand, striking her in the left eye.
Also, notice how there is absolutely no swelling what-so-ever to this girl's face. I've been hit in the eye before and my eye swelled up for a few days. Then, look at the eye itself...no redness at all. :dunno: Quite suspicious if you ask me.
Then, notice how the "B" is on her right cheek, which would insinuate that it was "written" with the attacker's left hand. But, her black left eye would insinuate that he was right handed...hmm. :dunno:
Then, notice how perfectly "written" the "B" is. If the attacker was right handed, but used his left hand to write the "B", it wouldn't be nearly as neat as it looks. It would be sloppy and look nothing like a "B".
The only way the attacker could've written that "B" on her right cheek is if he was sitting above her head, facing her feet, as she was lying on the ground. But, then she would have complete mobility in her arms and legs, which would allow her to thrash and flop around to help her get away.
Also, if there was really an attacker, I highly doubt that he would conveniently notice a "McCain/Palin" BUMPER STICKER. Plus, how did he know that the car with the bumper sticker even belonged to that girl? :dunno:
Plus, this event, which took place at an ATM, miraculously happened just "outside of the banks surveillance camera's" view.
I feel bad if this girl really was attacked, but...I don't believe one bit of this story. It just seems like a huge publicity stunt that was pulled by these college aged, politically charged McCain supporters, in order to put some negative press out there to make Obama look bad right before the election.
If someone held a KNIFE to my face, and pressed it against my skin, it would've done a lot more than barely create slightly discolored red marks on my face. Look at the picture...it's so fake looking, like this girl set this all up and knew it was going to happen. Allow me to play detective for a moment...
Notice how her left eye is the black eye. This would mean that the attacker was right handed. Being right handed, the attacker would've hit her with his right hand, striking her in the left eye.
Also, notice how there is absolutely no swelling what-so-ever to this girl's face. I've been hit in the eye before and my eye swelled up for a few days. Then, look at the eye itself...no redness at all. :dunno: Quite suspicious if you ask me.
Then, notice how the "B" is on her right cheek, which would insinuate that it was "written" with the attacker's left hand. But, her black left eye would insinuate that he was right handed...hmm. :dunno:
Then, notice how perfectly "written" the "B" is. If the attacker was right handed, but used his left hand to write the "B", it wouldn't be nearly as neat as it looks. It would be sloppy and look nothing like a "B".
The only way the attacker could've written that "B" on her right cheek is if he was sitting above her head, facing her feet, as she was lying on the ground. But, then she would have complete mobility in her arms and legs, which would allow her to thrash and flop around to help her get away.
Also, if there was really an attacker, I highly doubt that he would conveniently notice a "McCain/Palin" BUMPER STICKER. Plus, how did he know that the car with the bumper sticker even belonged to that girl? :dunno:
Plus, this event, which took place at an ATM, miraculously happened just "outside of the banks surveillance camera's" view.
I feel bad if this girl really was attacked, but...I don't believe one bit of this story. It just seems like a huge publicity stunt that was pulled by these college aged, politically charged McCain supporters, in order to put some negative press out there to make Obama look bad right before the election.
Re: SHOCK: McCain Volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh... 'B' carved into f
Using the back of a knife blade with a fairly dull tip would create that scratch. Which means he wasn't looking to scar or kill her... just leave a mark.
Agreed.
This happened two days ago. The swelling and redness have already gone down.
Unless her head was turned to the side. He could have easily used his right hand on her right cheek then.
Again, I think you're underestimating the effect of a large, violent man holding a knife against her face. And many women are taught specifically NOT to fight an attacker if they've already been overpowered.
It was at 9PM at night. Her car may likely have been the only car in the parking lot.
Agreed... that's unfortunate or convenient (depending on how you look at it).
Using the back of a knife blade with a fairly dull tip would create that scratch. Which means he wasn't looking to scar or kill her... just leave a mark.
Agreed.
This happened two days ago. The swelling and redness have already gone down.
Unless her head was turned to the side. He could have easily used his right hand on her right cheek then.
Again, I think you're underestimating the effect of a large, violent man holding a knife against her face. And many women are taught specifically NOT to fight an attacker if they've already been overpowered.
It was at 9PM at night. Her car may likely have been the only car in the parking lot.
Agreed... that's unfortunate or convenient (depending on how you look at it).
Re: SHOCK: McCain Volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh... 'B' carved into f
where the fuck did you hear that? every rape counselor or female defense class I've ever heard about says that woman should kick and scream as much as possible to make it a deterrent against their attacker. especially in a public place. criminals look for scenarios of convenience and least resistance, giving in to his demands is exactly what he wants. making it difficult and time consuming, increasing his chances of getting noticed and caught, that is not what he wants and he is more likely to give up and leave.
where the fuck did you hear that? every rape counselor or female defense class I've ever heard about says that woman should kick and scream as much as possible to make it a deterrent against their attacker. especially in a public place. criminals look for scenarios of convenience and least resistance, giving in to his demands is exactly what he wants. making it difficult and time consuming, increasing his chances of getting noticed and caught, that is not what he wants and he is more likely to give up and leave.
Re: SHOCK: McCain Volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh... 'B' carved into f
I'm not saying its right. Just that I can remember teachers even in college telling girls, "If he's unarmed, go ahead and fight. But if he's got a weapon, fighting will just get yourself killed."
I'm not saying its right. Just that I can remember teachers even in college telling girls, "If he's unarmed, go ahead and fight. But if he's got a weapon, fighting will just get yourself killed."
ChefChiTown
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Re: SHOCK: McCain Volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh... 'B' carved into f
Ok, allow me to play detective again...
According to the article, the supposed attack happened on Wednesday, October 22, around 9PM. The article itself was published on Thursday, October 23 at 4:03PM. The article and photo were published no more than 19 hours after the attack. That is not enough time for swelling and redness to completely disappear.
Plus, it's dark in the photograph, which would indicate that it had to be taken right after the supposed attack (AKA - on Wednesday), because it does not get that dark at 4PM in the afternoon.
The police would've taken a photo on the scene for evidence. But, since she only called the police and apparently didn't file an incident report (out of fear of getting caught perhaps?), she has an amateur picture posted on the internet and on the news instead.
(She may have filed a report, but the article does not say that she did. It only says that she called the police, and that is what I'm going off of.)
If that's the case, then where are the hand and finger imprints and marks on her face and/or neck? :dunno:
I agree with my fellow detective Calpoon on this. Nobody teaches women to just give up and become completely submissive when in a physical struggle. Maybe if somebody was just trying to snatch their purse and run, MAYBE, but not in a physical struggle or fight.
It may have very well been the only car. But still...why would the attacker have the sense to look at the bumper sticker? That makes absolutely NO sense at all.
Plus, where was this girl's friend when all of this was happening? :dunno: The article says that her and a friend went to this ATM...so, what the fuck? Her friend was supposedly there but didn't do anything? Not even a simple scream for help, which is what 99% of people would've done in that situation? Her friend was supposedly getting punched and kicked but chose to just stand there like a goon and wait it out? No, I don't believe it.
Next case please.
Ok, allow me to play detective again...
According to the article, the supposed attack happened on Wednesday, October 22, around 9PM. The article itself was published on Thursday, October 23 at 4:03PM. The article and photo were published no more than 19 hours after the attack. That is not enough time for swelling and redness to completely disappear.
Plus, it's dark in the photograph, which would indicate that it had to be taken right after the supposed attack (AKA - on Wednesday), because it does not get that dark at 4PM in the afternoon.
The police would've taken a photo on the scene for evidence. But, since she only called the police and apparently didn't file an incident report (out of fear of getting caught perhaps?), she has an amateur picture posted on the internet and on the news instead.
(She may have filed a report, but the article does not say that she did. It only says that she called the police, and that is what I'm going off of.)
If that's the case, then where are the hand and finger imprints and marks on her face and/or neck? :dunno:
I agree with my fellow detective Calpoon on this. Nobody teaches women to just give up and become completely submissive when in a physical struggle. Maybe if somebody was just trying to snatch their purse and run, MAYBE, but not in a physical struggle or fight.
It may have very well been the only car. But still...why would the attacker have the sense to look at the bumper sticker? That makes absolutely NO sense at all.
Plus, where was this girl's friend when all of this was happening? :dunno: The article says that her and a friend went to this ATM...so, what the fuck? Her friend was supposedly there but didn't do anything? Not even a simple scream for help, which is what 99% of people would've done in that situation? Her friend was supposedly getting punched and kicked but chose to just stand there like a goon and wait it out? No, I don't believe it.
Next case please.
Re: SHOCK: McCain Volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh... 'B' carved into f
Alright, I'll grant you this one is suspicious. But I'd still be more inclined to believe her than not.
Alright, I'll grant you this one is suspicious. But I'd still be more inclined to believe her than not.
Marlo Manson
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Re: SHOCK: McCain Volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh... 'B' carved into f
I am sincerely glad this girl escaped serious injury and I am truly sorry for Ashley if she was indeed a victim??
Albeit, I am inclined to believe what most of the other members have already mentioned, I therefore am declaring this is a
story and a terrible attempt too suggest political affiliations had anything too do with this attack or staged incident!! 
:dunno:
I am sincerely glad this girl escaped serious injury and I am truly sorry for Ashley if she was indeed a victim??
Albeit, I am inclined to believe what most of the other members have already mentioned, I therefore am declaring this is a
story and a terrible attempt too suggest political affiliations had anything too do with this attack or staged incident!! :dunno:
Re: SHOCK: McCain Volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh... 'B' carved into f
Well, don, if you look at the picture of this girl's face - which, if I'm looking at this timeline right, was taken less than 24 hrs. after the attack - this looks like a LONG way off from a machete attack. I guess it's possible that is a "carving" done by an angry man with a knife, but it almost looks like it could've been done with a sharpened fingernail. Probably painful, but unlikely to even leave a scar, really...
http://rightvoices.com/2008/10/23/shock-mccain-volunteer-attacked-and-mutilated-in-pittsburgh/
Being skeptical of the story - the political nugget of which (the anti-McCain rage of the robber) seems to have come from a police spokeswoman, presumably citing the police report - and having compassion for someone who lost $60, got a black eye, and a scratched face are not mutually exclusive things. I do feel sorry that this girl got robbed and was assaulted. That's always a bad, very traumatic thing to have happen. I DON'T KNOW if the entire tale as written is true. There are certainly aspects of it that seem implausible at face value, and I think the possibility of overzealous political campaigners enhancing a story of an ATM robbery for political purposes is certainly a real one, regardless of political orientation. If one feels that their country will be destroyed (perhaps in a terrorist attack?) if their candidate's opponent should win, well, it's understandable that people might get desperate and start adding some juicy details to an average ATM robbery. So, just to be clear, I have, I feel compassion for this young woman whether her story is wholly true or partially or wholly false. For obvious reasons if it's true and if it's false, because someone would be so pathetically desperate that they'd sink to scratching their own face or telling a phony tale to a cop to get brownie points with their campaign or to smear one's opponent's fans as violent street thieves (for those who think in such black & white, simplistic ways)....
But look at these posts from the victim's blog. Now, looking at this, I'm thinking that, either the clock on her blog is off by about a day, or she is not only making a very rapid physical recovery, but also a super-fast mental, psychological recovery, too. Remember, she was just recently attacked, and according to the newspaper article, "maimed" - one of the words the many right-wing blogs stroking this story are really enjoying repeating - although I think the "rightvoices" blog can take credit for using the word "carved" to describe the knife injuries to her face:
"Thanks to everyone for your thoughts and prayers- I'm phonebanking so let's all work together and get John McCain elected #litf08
Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:55:41 +0000
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atodd: Oh the blog I will be making soon... Its been a rough night #litf08
Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:52:58 +0000
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atodd: Pretty sure I'm on the wrong side of pittsburgh
Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:45:59 +0000
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atodd: Stubbornly searching for a bank of america to avoid ATM fees.
Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:23:21 +0000 "
HUH???????
(her blog is here, btw:
http://lifeinthefield.com/users/ashley-todd )
And also, since the story from the newspaper site uses the word maim, and you can see the picture of her, let's recall the definition for that word, more typical to war crimes and serial killers - from various dictionaries:
" 1. To disable or disfigure, usually by depriving of the use of a limb or other part of the body. See Synonyms at batter1.
2. To make imperfect or defective; impair.
....
verb
injure or wound seriously and leave permanent disfiguration or mutilation; "people were maimed by the explosion"
........
: to mutilate, disfigure, or wound seriously —compare MAYHEM
.....
1. To deprive of the use of a limb, so as to render a person on fighting less able either to defend himself or to annoy his adversary.
By the ancient law of England he that maimed any man whereby he lost any part of his body, was sentenced to lose the like part. --Blackstone.
2. To mutilate; to cripple; to injure; to disable; to impair.
My late maimed limbs lack wonted might. --Spenser.
You maimed the jurisdiction of all bishops. --Shak.
Syn: To mutilate; mangle; cripple."
Ok, see ya!
:wave2:
Well, don, if you look at the picture of this girl's face - which, if I'm looking at this timeline right, was taken less than 24 hrs. after the attack - this looks like a LONG way off from a machete attack. I guess it's possible that is a "carving" done by an angry man with a knife, but it almost looks like it could've been done with a sharpened fingernail. Probably painful, but unlikely to even leave a scar, really...
http://rightvoices.com/2008/10/23/shock-mccain-volunteer-attacked-and-mutilated-in-pittsburgh/
Being skeptical of the story - the political nugget of which (the anti-McCain rage of the robber) seems to have come from a police spokeswoman, presumably citing the police report - and having compassion for someone who lost $60, got a black eye, and a scratched face are not mutually exclusive things. I do feel sorry that this girl got robbed and was assaulted. That's always a bad, very traumatic thing to have happen. I DON'T KNOW if the entire tale as written is true. There are certainly aspects of it that seem implausible at face value, and I think the possibility of overzealous political campaigners enhancing a story of an ATM robbery for political purposes is certainly a real one, regardless of political orientation. If one feels that their country will be destroyed (perhaps in a terrorist attack?) if their candidate's opponent should win, well, it's understandable that people might get desperate and start adding some juicy details to an average ATM robbery. So, just to be clear, I have, I feel compassion for this young woman whether her story is wholly true or partially or wholly false. For obvious reasons if it's true and if it's false, because someone would be so pathetically desperate that they'd sink to scratching their own face or telling a phony tale to a cop to get brownie points with their campaign or to smear one's opponent's fans as violent street thieves (for those who think in such black & white, simplistic ways)....
But look at these posts from the victim's blog. Now, looking at this, I'm thinking that, either the clock on her blog is off by about a day, or she is not only making a very rapid physical recovery, but also a super-fast mental, psychological recovery, too. Remember, she was just recently attacked, and according to the newspaper article, "maimed" - one of the words the many right-wing blogs stroking this story are really enjoying repeating - although I think the "rightvoices" blog can take credit for using the word "carved" to describe the knife injuries to her face:
"Thanks to everyone for your thoughts and prayers- I'm phonebanking so let's all work together and get John McCain elected #litf08
Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:55:41 +0000
#
atodd: Oh the blog I will be making soon... Its been a rough night #litf08
Thu, 23 Oct 2008 03:52:58 +0000
#
atodd: Pretty sure I'm on the wrong side of pittsburgh
Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:45:59 +0000
#
atodd: Stubbornly searching for a bank of america to avoid ATM fees.
Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:23:21 +0000 "
HUH???????
(her blog is here, btw:
http://lifeinthefield.com/users/ashley-todd )
And also, since the story from the newspaper site uses the word maim, and you can see the picture of her, let's recall the definition for that word, more typical to war crimes and serial killers - from various dictionaries:
" 1. To disable or disfigure, usually by depriving of the use of a limb or other part of the body. See Synonyms at batter1.
2. To make imperfect or defective; impair.
....
verb
injure or wound seriously and leave permanent disfiguration or mutilation; "people were maimed by the explosion"
........
: to mutilate, disfigure, or wound seriously —compare MAYHEM
.....
1. To deprive of the use of a limb, so as to render a person on fighting less able either to defend himself or to annoy his adversary.
By the ancient law of England he that maimed any man whereby he lost any part of his body, was sentenced to lose the like part. --Blackstone.
2. To mutilate; to cripple; to injure; to disable; to impair.
My late maimed limbs lack wonted might. --Spenser.
You maimed the jurisdiction of all bishops. --Shak.
Syn: To mutilate; mangle; cripple."
Ok, see ya!
:wave2:
ChefChiTown
The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Re: SHOCK: McCain Volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh... 'B' carved into f
If you look, her blog updates are now "protected" and you can't view them. Something to hide, maybe? :dunno:
http://twitter.com/atodd
If you look, her blog updates are now "protected" and you can't view them. Something to hide, maybe? :dunno:
http://twitter.com/atodd
Re: SHOCK: McCain Volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh... 'B' carved into f
I had a similar thing happen to me while I was driving around Pittsburgh with a "Muggers Suck!" bumper-sticker on my car.
I was just thinking that this woman was possibly going to carve "BO" for Barack Obama on her face, but she thought that the police would think it referred to her personal aroma, which was rather rank at the time.
I had a similar thing happen to me while I was driving around Pittsburgh with a "Muggers Suck!" bumper-sticker on my car.
I was just thinking that this woman was possibly going to carve "BO" for Barack Obama on her face, but she thought that the police would think it referred to her personal aroma, which was rather rank at the time.
Re: SHOCK: McCain Volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh... 'B' carved into f
Alright, I'm back, I lied, sorry....
Coupla things:
1. According to the newschannel site's video report (sorry, I missed before that it was a TV news station, not a newspaper, but whatever - everybody does video and such now), the source for the story is this blog:
http://sarahsarmy.blogspot.com/
Yep, Sarah's Army (militant enough?).
And some commenters at the newschannel site's report on this reminded me of some details about the specific neighborhood which the crime is alleged to have taken place in, which I've actually been to a few times:
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kennazus 10-23-2008, 11:53 PM Add to the Discussion
If she was attacked, it's terrible and I hope she's OK.
But if you're familiar with the city, there are several things about this story that don't track. Bloomfield (where the attack happened) is a busy, lively, mostly Italian Catholic neighborhood. To outsiders, all of Pittsburgh probably looks a little scary, but Bloomfied is a mellow, really nice place.
At 9pm on a Wednesday night in Bloomfield, people would have been out walking, shopping, going to dinner, bars, coffee-shops, riding bikes. There's a hospital right across the street from the ATM at Liberty and Pearl, with nurses and doctors coming and going all the time. Liberty Ave -- a big, busy thoroughfare -- would have been flush with cars at that hour.
If I was having a backwards "B" carved into my face, I would probably be screaming the whole time. I'm guessing it takes at least 10 seconds to carve a letter into someone's cheek -- probably more, if the person is squirming around (which she must not have been, because, other than the fact that it's backwards, it's a pretty solid-looking "B"Wink. So we're talking about an attacker who not only risked robbing someone at knifepoint on a busy street, he also risked drawing attention to the attack by provoking several seconds of screaming, during which he had to stick around and finish the job.
As hard-to-believe as all of that is, there's an even more far-fetched detail. I can't imagine any scenario where Pittsburghers -- Bloomfielders! -- would have walked or driven or stood by while someone was under attack long enough to have a B carved into her face. That's not how Pittsburgh rolls.
pintoalegr 10-23-2008, 11:53 PM Add to the Discussion
This is absolutely ridiculous. What made this brand new person to Pittsburgh think that Bloomfield was a "bad part of town" (according to her Twitter page). She was on Liberty Avenue before 9 PM for Pete's sake! There are bars and restaurants all over the place. I can't even believe that there would be enough time to rob her, assault her AND take the time to carve her face without anyone noticing the attack.
Sounds like a terrible attempt to make Obama and his campaign look bad. Nice try at an "October surprise", but most of us aren't buying this bull. "
Alright, I'm back, I lied, sorry....
Coupla things:
1. According to the newschannel site's video report (sorry, I missed before that it was a TV news station, not a newspaper, but whatever - everybody does video and such now), the source for the story is this blog:
http://sarahsarmy.blogspot.com/
Yep, Sarah's Army (militant enough?).
And some commenters at the newschannel site's report on this reminded me of some details about the specific neighborhood which the crime is alleged to have taken place in, which I've actually been to a few times:
"
kennazus 10-23-2008, 11:53 PM Add to the Discussion
If she was attacked, it's terrible and I hope she's OK.
But if you're familiar with the city, there are several things about this story that don't track. Bloomfield (where the attack happened) is a busy, lively, mostly Italian Catholic neighborhood. To outsiders, all of Pittsburgh probably looks a little scary, but Bloomfied is a mellow, really nice place.
At 9pm on a Wednesday night in Bloomfield, people would have been out walking, shopping, going to dinner, bars, coffee-shops, riding bikes. There's a hospital right across the street from the ATM at Liberty and Pearl, with nurses and doctors coming and going all the time. Liberty Ave -- a big, busy thoroughfare -- would have been flush with cars at that hour.
If I was having a backwards "B" carved into my face, I would probably be screaming the whole time. I'm guessing it takes at least 10 seconds to carve a letter into someone's cheek -- probably more, if the person is squirming around (which she must not have been, because, other than the fact that it's backwards, it's a pretty solid-looking "B"Wink. So we're talking about an attacker who not only risked robbing someone at knifepoint on a busy street, he also risked drawing attention to the attack by provoking several seconds of screaming, during which he had to stick around and finish the job.
As hard-to-believe as all of that is, there's an even more far-fetched detail. I can't imagine any scenario where Pittsburghers -- Bloomfielders! -- would have walked or driven or stood by while someone was under attack long enough to have a B carved into her face. That's not how Pittsburgh rolls.
pintoalegr 10-23-2008, 11:53 PM Add to the Discussion
This is absolutely ridiculous. What made this brand new person to Pittsburgh think that Bloomfield was a "bad part of town" (according to her Twitter page). She was on Liberty Avenue before 9 PM for Pete's sake! There are bars and restaurants all over the place. I can't even believe that there would be enough time to rob her, assault her AND take the time to carve her face without anyone noticing the attack.
Sounds like a terrible attempt to make Obama and his campaign look bad. Nice try at an "October surprise", but most of us aren't buying this bull. "
Violator79
Take a Hit, Spunker!
Re: SHOCK: McCain Volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh... 'B' carved into f
Whoever said that Bloomfield is a bad part of town doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground. That is one of the nicest parts of the city with some of the best restaurants around. I've been in Bloomfield after 9pm and it's very quiet. All you smell going along Liberty Avenue is food. It smells so good along that strip that you just want to stop and have a bite.
Whoever said that Bloomfield is a bad part of town doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground. That is one of the nicest parts of the city with some of the best restaurants around. I've been in Bloomfield after 9pm and it's very quiet. All you smell going along Liberty Avenue is food. It smells so good along that strip that you just want to stop and have a bite.
ChefChiTown
The secret ingredient? MY BALLS
Re: SHOCK: McCain Volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh... 'B' carved into f
I just saw that on MSNBC's TV station. Here is a link that also confirms the story as being a hoax, as I well suspected from the beginning.
http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212181323.shtml
I just saw that on MSNBC's TV station. Here is a link that also confirms the story as being a hoax, as I well suspected from the beginning.
http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212181323.shtml
Re: SHOCK: McCain Volunteer attacked and mutilated in Pittsburgh... 'B' carved into f
The original link now also says it was a hoax. Anyone surprised?
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17789356/detail.html
The original link now also says it was a hoax. Anyone surprised?
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17789356/detail.html
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