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No I have never attacked you personally. Not once. I apologized for the "cry me a river" comment because it was made about the lack of health insurance for your friend's workers. I decided to assume responsibility and blame that the comment was about your friend suffering from an illness because that is the way you took it.
Making fun of the sick is not something that I do.
As do you for me as well, no doubt anyone reading this thread will be amused by you not necessarily in a positive way however, but rather dumbfounded by your ramblings that you yourself seem to not comprehend. I am most amused by your methods of interacting with me, the whole play dumb and cause diversions with your senseless drivel is hideous, you are doing it to everyone. Just answer what is being asked of you, by myself and others. I will step aside if you simply answer the questions and show the ability to properly back your boisterous views which you enjoy posting.
Otherwise perhaps have one of the MOD's change the name of your thread to:
"I want to bitch and spew my views, but in doing so I could care less what others think, feel or say. I am right, so Fuck everyone else -- love Mariahxxx"
I know what I said. I also am saying that the comment was about the issue of heath insurance and his workers. Perhaps the timing was bad because it was very early in the morning but since we are talking about burden of proof here, it is up to you to prove intent.
I just decided to allow the comment to stand without further explanation because although I didn't direct the comment at your friend's illness I could understand why you took it that way and let it ride.
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Mariahxxx
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I dont have to prove there is no god fuckface. there is no video or photo of him. he is believed to exist based upon a book written nearly 2000 years ago. his existence is based PURELY on faith that he is there. so that means I dont have to prove he's there. YOU DO. I can't see him and neither can you, so its YOUR job to provide evidence he is there other than some rhetoric about burning bushes and Michele Bachman's bid for president
I have said it many times that I dont care what you or anyone else believes as long as you keep it to yourselves. I travel 10 days a month and am in Texas regularly. So what if I wanted to give a bj when Im there? I would be breaking the law. Im also in Alabama, Georgia, Arkansas and other states where that is illegal. And so you know, those laws were created specifically targeting gays and you can ask our resident attorney about laws that target specific groups of people.
here's my quote and yours follows:
Quote Originally Posted by Mariahxxx View Post
I had an interesting discussion with a friend of mine tonight. He's a 28 year old business owner and has been since he was 13 when he started his own roofing company. He pays for blue cross medical insurance for all 27 of his employees and himself. in 2010 he had emergency gall bladder surgery and during the surgery his lung was punctured and became infected. He has lost 90% of the use of that lung and due to this he was dropped by Blue Cross. He has a law suit pending of course, but now due to the infection in his body that went on undetected for 4 months he now has an ulcer on his trachea and cannot eat or swallow. He has no insurance and cannot purchase a plan because he has the pending lawsuit and outstanding bills that Blue Cross has denied his claim. He paid premiums for 11 years and never made a single claim until this, and now they have dropped him and he is stuck with more than $50,000 in medical bills. He is on the verge of losing his business because he cannot swallow, he can barely speak and his medicine costs him $180 every 2 days!!!!! He has had to pay a specialist over $5,000 so far on top of the medications and after 45 days he is not any better than he was. Blue cross has continued to deny his claims and he cannot buy insurance to this day.
He has applied for medicare and disability and social security and been denied each time.
This is a guy who has paid into the system since he was a kid and never taken anything out and yet he can't get medicine that he needs. He's sold his condo and now has to sell his business just to keep going to specialists to try and find the cure for his illness. He's lost 80 pounds and can barely speak. Since his policy was dropped prior to the affordable care act and the preexisting conditions provision, he's shit outta luck.
If we had a health care system in place he could have had this handled and been back to work, paying taxes and hiring more people.
Now here's what you said:
"More anecdotal evidence. And out of those 27 roofers, how many are illegals? It's the roofing business you know. Cry me a fucking river.
We all could give personal examples of why we hold the views that we do."
so please, show me where anything was said in that exchange about him not being able to provide health care to his workers??? YOU accused them of being illegal. I said very clearly that he DID provide health care for them. see the 3rd sentence in my quote??????????? pretty clear there pal.
I have said it many times that I dont care what you or anyone else believes as long as you keep it to yourselves. I travel 10 days a month and am in Texas regularly. So what if I wanted to give a bj when Im there? I would be breaking the law. Im also in Alabama, Georgia, Arkansas and other states where that is illegal. And so you know, those laws were created specifically targeting gays and you can ask our resident attorney about laws that target specific groups of people.
here's my quote and yours follows:
Quote Originally Posted by Mariahxxx View Post
I had an interesting discussion with a friend of mine tonight. He's a 28 year old business owner and has been since he was 13 when he started his own roofing company. He pays for blue cross medical insurance for all 27 of his employees and himself. in 2010 he had emergency gall bladder surgery and during the surgery his lung was punctured and became infected. He has lost 90% of the use of that lung and due to this he was dropped by Blue Cross. He has a law suit pending of course, but now due to the infection in his body that went on undetected for 4 months he now has an ulcer on his trachea and cannot eat or swallow. He has no insurance and cannot purchase a plan because he has the pending lawsuit and outstanding bills that Blue Cross has denied his claim. He paid premiums for 11 years and never made a single claim until this, and now they have dropped him and he is stuck with more than $50,000 in medical bills. He is on the verge of losing his business because he cannot swallow, he can barely speak and his medicine costs him $180 every 2 days!!!!! He has had to pay a specialist over $5,000 so far on top of the medications and after 45 days he is not any better than he was. Blue cross has continued to deny his claims and he cannot buy insurance to this day.
He has applied for medicare and disability and social security and been denied each time.
This is a guy who has paid into the system since he was a kid and never taken anything out and yet he can't get medicine that he needs. He's sold his condo and now has to sell his business just to keep going to specialists to try and find the cure for his illness. He's lost 80 pounds and can barely speak. Since his policy was dropped prior to the affordable care act and the preexisting conditions provision, he's shit outta luck.
If we had a health care system in place he could have had this handled and been back to work, paying taxes and hiring more people.
Now here's what you said:
"More anecdotal evidence. And out of those 27 roofers, how many are illegals? It's the roofing business you know. Cry me a fucking river.
We all could give personal examples of why we hold the views that we do."
so please, show me where anything was said in that exchange about him not being able to provide health care to his workers??? YOU accused them of being illegal. I said very clearly that he DID provide health care for them. see the 3rd sentence in my quote??????????? pretty clear there pal.
Thanks for posting that. I think it is pretty clear that the comment was concerning health insurance and rightly or wrongly that the majority of his employees were illegals hence the 'cry me a fucking river" remark. It's not like there isn't sufficient evidence to show that plenty of roofers, painters and landscapers use illegal employees. You said that he doesn't employ illegals and I will take you at your word.
I stand by my assertion that it was not directed at your roofer friend.
Your colorful use of the English language toward those you disagree with is adorable BTW.
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his employees are NOT illegals. that was another one of your incorrect assumptions. and after what I wrote the first thing you have to say is that he hires illegals????????????? I told you I asked him and he said he had hired a few mexicans a few years ago but none since. most of his guys are black with some whites. this is florida remember? our labor force here is not like texas or arizona or california most highway workers, lawn people and roofers are NOT mexican
and didn't my post CLEARLY say he provides health care for ALL 27 of his employees?????????
and as far as anecdotal stories your little whimsy about your people in california staying together is hardly proof that its a rampant issue in the state, nor is your comment that johnny carson used to joke about it considering he's long dead and been off the air since the fucking 80s.
and didn't my post CLEARLY say he provides health care for ALL 27 of his employees?????????
and as far as anecdotal stories your little whimsy about your people in california staying together is hardly proof that its a rampant issue in the state, nor is your comment that johnny carson used to joke about it considering he's long dead and been off the air since the fucking 80s.
Mariah
You should go over to meesterperfect's celebrity relative thread and see if you can get some pointers on locating your long lost cousin Don Johnson. Your use of "pal" has me convinced that you two are related.
You should go over to meesterperfect's celebrity relative thread and see if you can get some pointers on locating your long lost cousin Don Johnson. Your use of "pal" has me convinced that you two are related.
He left the show in 1992 and died in 2005.
If you feel so strongly about this approach, why do you then do the opposite yourself as an act of hypocrisy of your own words and wishes? Why are your views more important than others and you feel justification to share them while you feel others should not? And you feel you're justified to say whatever you wish, believe you alone are correct and not back up your own words? Again, see my comment about changing the thread title. You seriously can't see the hypocrisy of your own words throughout this entire thread? Or you just blindly and ignorantly choose not to, because you alone are right in your own eyes and mind and that's all that matters?
So are we to believe that given your attitude of self righteousness, etc., as demonstrated in this thread that:
a.) You abstain from any and all blow jobs and anal etc., while in these states, regardless of your desires?
b.) You are afraid the blow job and anal, etc., police would catch you?
c.) You are concerned with breaking laws that would be next to impossible to enforce, even thought you don't wish for anyone to tell you what to do and believe?
Again none of this in anyway demonstrates how your example effects you personally daily no matter how much you believe it does. You still have not shown how any thing you speak against has a daily personal (you) impact upon your daily life. Aside from merely just wanting to have a bitch fest and self assuring thread with all absence of actual discussion.
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Ok I am really shocked right now. It's illegal to give blowjobs in Texas?!
That's fucking racist, bro. Check your privilege.
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Yeah and a lot of other antiquated laws in many states. They stay on the books and people are hardly ever prosecuted if at all.. They only real purpose they serve now is fodder for anti religious zealots.
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Yeah I just googled it and found some really interesting stuff about laws regarding sex. Freaking insane! I found that it's illegal to give or receive oral sex in a plethora of states, in Virginia it's illegal to have sex with the lights on, and in Virginia, Montana, Florida and Massachusetts, it's illegal to have sex in any position other than missionary. And in Texas, it's considered a felony to own more than 6 dildos. Oh my god I would be so fucked! I have 4 boxes completely full of sex toys (at least 40 toys, it's crazy, I haven't counted but it's a lot), I have sex all the time with the lights on, I give and receive oral nearly every time I have sex, and to hell if I'm only gonna have sex in missionary. Fuck that nonsense.
Yay! Good thing I live in NY! One of the most liberal states in the country in this respect
I could even go walking around topless if I wanted without getting arrested.Yay! Good thing I live in NY! One of the most liberal states in the country in this respect
Please do so, and post pictures.
No it's not. It's a law on the books, but it's not enforced (there's a tonne of those). It actually can't be thanks to the Supreme Court and Lawrence v. Texas. Sodomy laws, and most laws which pertain to consensual sexual relations, were deemed unconstitutional almost precisely one decade ago. So it's legal everywhere in the United States.
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