No it will not be immediate but we will be out within Obama's 1st term or there will be no 2nd term,and being re-elected is job 1 lol.
Obama seeks landslide but McCain predicts upset
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No it will not be immediate but we will be out within Obama's 1st term or there will be no 2nd term,and being re-elected is job 1 lol.
If I was McCain, I would have stopped with the bullshit politics and imitating what seems popular of what people liked about Obama and disowned Bush completely. I would have sold him to some Arab day trader somewhere or sent him off to a rendition in Saudi Arabia, Abu Ghirab or to Gitmo for an extended stay since it's so humane. Later he could be joined by the other thugs who are all quietly sneaking out the White House back door.
Book I'm reading points out how unlike Roosevelt, Truman, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy or even his father, being a war president was his one and only dream, and he absolutely loves the attention. Happy, smiling, while his forebearers suffered with the deaths resulting from their decisions. His larger concern was if he could make better time jogging his 4 miles. He was also by far the single president who took off the most time. Something like 1000 days in 8 years. He made many statements how he needed his rest or as president, his R&R time, while soldiers returned to tours in Iraq, again and again until they died.
Why treat this guy like he's some great man? If I was McCain I would trash him instantly and in fact, it seems like most everyone has. That connection to Bush is his single greatest error in this campaign.
Book I'm reading points out how unlike Roosevelt, Truman, Nixon, Johnson, Kennedy or even his father, being a war president was his one and only dream, and he absolutely loves the attention. Happy, smiling, while his forebearers suffered with the deaths resulting from their decisions. His larger concern was if he could make better time jogging his 4 miles. He was also by far the single president who took off the most time. Something like 1000 days in 8 years. He made many statements how he needed his rest or as president, his R&R time, while soldiers returned to tours in Iraq, again and again until they died.
Why treat this guy like he's some great man? If I was McCain I would trash him instantly and in fact, it seems like most everyone has. That connection to Bush is his single greatest error in this campaign.
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NO ! That is like suggesting that the election, should McCain win, is fixed.
Not "full" but they are out there, yes.
I don't bother myself with world opinion, but, they detest that we have the right to free speech. Bring down those with the greater. Envy is the root source / cause in the advancement of tyranny. READ !!!!!
That was a good link and interesting conspiracy theories, your sig befits your evil genious. I still think it should be up for the citizens if they want to vote or not in a democracy things should not be forced or compulsory.
There are plenty of things that are forced or are compulsory in our "democracy". Too many things to name.
Bottom line is, voting is supposed to be our civic duty. If that is the case then voting should be compulsory. Just like paying taxes is, or registering yourself as a convicted sex offender is if your name happens to be philbert and you live in Texas.
That reminds me of something I once read. I think it went something similar to, "Compulsory voting in a free democracy makes about as much sense as the death penalty as a punishment for people that try to commit suicide". It pretty much defeats the purpose of a free democracy. Not to mention people can choose to not vote on principle. It they find nobody to be qualified then why should they vote?
Unfortunately Americans attention spans in this and other issues is short.
I remember back 8 years, (to Iraq, I can't prove the 2000 election fixing), and remember how American's were lied to getting us knowingly into an unjust war for the sake of special interest groups. I remember the president saying the economy was great while I warned people at parties not to throw their life savings into a quick scheme to get rich in real estate. I remember the early campaigns of McCain and others and how it followed Bush politics until the tune changed to draw voters from Obama.
I can remember the US fixing politics and setting up leaders in S. Vietnam, latin America, Noriega, the Shah of Iran, Hussein himself and Bin Laden until their usefulness or their ambitions grew beyond US support which also ignored or funded illegal activities including drugs flowing into US classrooms, and military actions for big business using American kids as cannon foddor.
It takes work to look at such history objectively as it's written by the hand of the victor. So, is it unpatriotic to not vote for these guys? I think it's unpatriotic to turn away from the obvious pattern of lies and abuse and pick apart tiny side points of what did or who said what and miss this bigger picture. I think it might even be the tougher choice of action for a lot of people to face reality, big business interests run the US, and the patriotic thing to do is vote out the people who have created this disaster.
Just remember McCain and Palin are the candidates of choice of that rogue sheriff and his rousing speech in uniform at a palin rally in Florida, who shouted, saluted and more resembled a Nazi stormtrooper than a public servant.
Yeah AFA as in you amking up your little mind (ref why Obama thread) I too have made my "little mind"
And because of Bush wars I lost two years of my life that I am not getting back or my family. The seond time around people had a chance to vote his ass out and yet he won by a large margin. McCain is not Bush.
Obama is sooo very unrealistic with his goals, other than stoping the war in Iraq and using that money for his plans (money that we did not have to begin with) where is he getting the rest of the money from? When compared to John he has made wayyyyy more promises, xo base on that do you want someone to just lie to you just to get what he wants instead of facing reality? Did we not learn from Bush and his lies?
Fuck (Fuck Bush too) I hate dealing with the damn VA! However wins they should fired the whole administration for so much red tape and hardship that they give to veterans- sorry for diverting from the topic had to let that out.
Don't know. I don't know what your issues are. Good luck.
McCain is the successor to the Bush throne. Cheney gave him the thumbs up the other day, while Colin Powell bailed out.
Good luck is what this country will need, which was to the far right with Bush yet it ended with the goverment getting bigger and rights being cut off, now we are about to go to the far left, because I do feel like Obama's got this won (the rightfully way that people are pissed at the republicans), so we'll see if the man so many people put their hopes on really delivers.
If he does I'll will give him credit and probably vote for him in 2012, if he don't I'll simply just say "told ya"...like I said I don't depend on goverment and I don't care what management it takes they are all the same just different ways of doing things.
BTW feel free to come to Colorado and have some BBQ on me plenty of good steak houses over here. :glugglug:
By the time we get to the far left, we'll spend a lot of time in the middle.
Sounds better than staying stuck in mounting debt, corruption and body bags :dunno:
