Nigerian attempts to blow up Northwest flight

[Rey C.]

What I'm curious about is why they let a guy named Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab on a plane in the first place. Doesn't the name itself raise flags left and right? :dunno:

Ever been to Detroit or flown out of the Metro Airport? Hearing that name there wouldn't raise a red flag anymore than flying out of Atlanta and hearing people speak with southern accents.

That's probably true of any international airport, but ESPECIALLY Detroit.

 

[jasonk282]

Hey according to Janet Incompentato the system worked propertly, they today it faild misserable and we all took her words out of context. Well janet when you say the system worked what did you really mean. Also this guys name came up on a terrorist watch list and his father WARNED the American Embassy. Really how many red flags does someone need to be considered a terrorist? I have no problem with any religion is general terms, I get along with Jews(I have a Jewish Brother-in-law), Muslims, Christians, Buddist etc.... What I have a problem with is the fundmentalist side of religion Muslims, Jews, Christians etc.

What we have here is a Muslim Fundmentalist trying to blow up an American Airline of Christmas day. They ONLY reason it did not work was becasue the Terrorist was to incompentant to do his job for Allah or else it would be a very bad Christmas for about 300 people.

 

[EwaSonnetIsGod]

Good thing they stopped him. We sure dont need a plane crashing here and fuckin up our beautiful city!

 

[Philbert]

Follow along with rantopotomus...

So in summary, Richard Reid was tried in Massachusetts because of where his crimes occurred,[wrong} Blind Sheik ..the same (NY), Mouissoui the same (VA),[wrong] KSM the same (NY), now this guy will be likely handled the same way (MI)....

What the hell was all of your ignorant ranting about in the first place??? [You can't handle the truth...famous quote]

As far as the "hits" parade...it was your redefinition[that you then redefined]...If this incident is a hit...why not Richard Reid?

If you consider the Hasah incident one of these "hits" why not Akbar???

Another long post by the Blaablaapotomus...
By your [shudder} logic KWB should also be tried in other countries and cities, 'cause he was connected to acts elsewhere. See...he's a planner of ops, not a field op...[does your head hurt keeping these different concepts separated? awww...] By no means should he be being tried in civilian court in New York...neither should Jr be tried in Detroit just 'cause that's where he tried to set of his device...off to Gitmo and special conversations should be his fate...but noooo. Let's fix his boo-boo and ask him to tell us whatever he likes when he's ready.
Maybe we should take him to Amsterdam and try him there..or in the Hauge. You can surely find some justification for that, can't you? He committed a crime there (or 2).
Lump all the crap together you want, not gonna fly when dosed with some actual logic and facts...you are the king of reinterpretation, aren't you?:rofl:

 

[Hot Mega]

Another long post by the Blaablaapotomus...
By your [shudder} logic KWB should also be tried in other countries and cities, 'cause he was connected to acts elsewhere. See...he's a planner of ops, not a field op...[does your head hurt keeping these different concepts separated? awww...] By no means should he be being tried in civilian court in New York...neither should Jr be tried in Detroit just 'cause that's where he tried to set of his device...off to Gitmo and special conversations should be his fate...but noooo. Let's fix his boo-boo and ask him to tell us whatever he likes when he's ready.
Maybe we should take him to Amsterdam and try him there..or in the Hauge. You can surely find some justification for that, can't you? He committed a crime there (or 2).
Lump all the crap together you want, not gonna fly when dosed with some actual logic and facts...you are the king of reinterpretation, aren't you?:rofl:

Proving the adage, you can lead a fool to facts but you can't make him think.:wave2:

 

[HELLRAISER]

These terrorist shitholes need to all be destroyed!

This B.O. administration is a fucking joke across the fucking board!

Blaming terrorism on Obama is very infantile but of course NeoCons are just that.

Anyway, if terrorist shitholes were to be destroyed, then there wouldn't be no western superpowers because they are the super terrorists who export terrorism around the globe because they our tax money through Black Ops to fund, train and arm right wing terrorists who are more then willing to die in whatever the name of their God is

 

[HELLRAISER]

True. But it would seem that the data shows Christianity has evolved quite a bit... while most of the Muslim world seems stuck in the dark ages.

The data proves that Christianity is savage, brutal and genocidal as any dogmatic religion and it hasn't evolved. What has really occurred here is that Christianity is on the decline since the data proves the more educated a person is, the less religious and dogmatic they are likely to be. The reason why you have Blowback from right wing conservative Muslim fanaticals is becoz the CIA has funded, trained, armed and empowered them to overthrow their more enlightened, less religious and democratically socialist elected leaders so right wing extremist Muslim regimes can take over through the use of force, murder, deception, torture and terror which after is the American way of doing things

 

[dokkin]

Someone needs to start teaching the extremists that its against there religion to fly. I wonder how pissed some al qaida leaders are for this failure to associate his name with theirs lol. Any clue on the amount of explosives? Would have been better if the only thing missing is his leg...

 

[HELLRAISER]

^ So then why don't you join the U.S. Air Force and tell the Christian extremist pilots that it's against their religion to fly and drop bombs on innocent civilians.

 

[Jack Davenport]

^ So then why don't you join the U.S. Air Force and tell the Christian extremist pilots that it's against their religion to fly and drop bombs on innocent civilians.

The more of your posts that I read, the more I am convinced that you have to be a parody poster.

 

[MILF Man]

Blaming terrorism on Obama is very infantile but of course NeoCons are just that.

Where did I blame the asshole B.O. on terrorism? Go back and read my post again, slowly this time. His administration is a joke! First they say the proper security measures in place are working and than the next day, they say their not.

These assholes are driving the country blindfolded and the glorified community organizer is leading the way.

 

[Philbert]

Proving the adage, you can lead a fool to facts but you can't make him think.:wave2:

Proving once again that self-evaluation is the most accurate form of criticism! Good job on that...take a nap, and try to be more honest in the future.:thumbsup:
:wave2:

Where did I blame the asshole B.O. on terrorism? Go back and read my post again, slowly this time. His administration is a joke! First they say the proper security measures in place are working and than the next day, they say their not.

These assholes are driving the country blindfolded and the glorified community organizer is leading the way.

There are soo many details you left out...you are one of millions shaking their heads and wondering how we are gonna make it through 3 more years with this junior senator from Illinois as President and CIC.
No UberLeftie could come up with enough lame excuses or justifications to explain away the broken down Obama Whitehouse and it's disarray, from "tax cheat"Geitner to "Huh?" Napoliatano.
Although they keep on trying, but it's more embarassing than effective.:rofl:

We have no leader...

 

[Big Poppa Pump]

The data proves that Christianity is savage, brutal and genocidal as any dogmatic religion and it hasn't evolved. What has really occurred here is that Christianity is on the decline since the data proves the more educated a person is, the less religious and dogmatic they are likely to be. The reason why you have Blowback from right wing conservative Muslim fanaticals is becoz the CIA has funded, trained, armed and empowered them to overthrow their more enlightened, less religious and democratically socialist elected leaders so right wing extremist Muslim regimes can take over through the use of force, murder, deception, torture and terror which after is the American way of doing things

Again I have to point out that you have the liberty to openly criticize Christianity and Neo Conservatives, which is a good thing, and you are entitled to those opinions. But if you were to criticize Islam so openly you would be in serious trouble. People like your good self would not exist in countries such as Iran because you would be killed for speaking openly about such subject matter.

 

[Philbert]

There are soo many details you left out...you are one of millions shaking their heads and wondering how we are gonna make it through 3 more years with this junior senator from Illinois as President and CIC.
No UberLeftie could come up with enough lame excuses or justifications to explain away the broken down Obama Whitehouse and it's disarray, from "tax cheat"Geitner to "Huh?" Napoliatano.
Although they keep on trying, but it's more embarassing than effective.:rofl:

We have no leader...

It seems we have many "No Leaders"...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091229/ap_on_go_ot/us_airliner_attack

 

[jasonk282]

Where did I blame the asshole B.O. on terrorism? Go back and read my post again, slowly this time. His administration is a joke! First they say the proper security measures in place are working and than the next day, they say their not.

These assholes are driving the country blindfolded and the glorified community organizer is leading the way.

Just proves that all Democrats do is flip flop on the issues instead of taking a stand. Janet the systes does not work. How do you miss a guy who is on a terrorist list AND his father called the US Embassy and said "my son is being radicalized in Yemen" Not to mention that he was denied paper to England, makes me think that America was a secondary target.

 

[Philbert]

Again I have to point out that you have the liberty to openly criticize Christianity and Neo Conservatives, which is a good thing, and you are entitled to those opinions. But if you were to criticize Islam so openly you would be in serious trouble. People like your good self would not exist in countries such as Iran because you would be killed for speaking openly about such subject matter.

Please don't take it the wrong way, but almost everyone here at FOs knows that; you are telling a robot how to be creative; you are telling an anorexic how to eat healthy; you are, in other words, wasting your effort trying to penetrate a completely closed mind on the order of Ft Knox, as an example. It's probably easier to get into the Fort than to penetrate the "mind" of this person with a fact, some logic, or anything along the order of reasoned discourse.

Just sayin'...:rofl:


BTW...from Wiki, the freeform information source: Neoconservatism is a political philosophy that emerged in the United States of America, and which supports using American economic and military power to bring liberalism, democracy, and human rights to other countries. Consequently the term is chiefly applicable to certain Americans and their strong supporters. In economics, unlike traditionalist conservatives, neoconservatives are generally comfortable with a welfare state.

 

[Big Poppa Pump]

Please don't take it the wrong way, but almost everyone here at FOs knows that; you are telling a robot how to be creative; you are telling an anorexic how to eat healthy; you are, in other words, wasting your effort trying to penetrate a completely closed mind on the order of Ft Knox, as an example. It's probably easier to get into the Fort than to penetrate the "mind" of this person with a fact, some logic, or anything along the order of reasoned discourse.

Just sayin'...:rofl:


Thats cool Philbert. What Hellraiser says about Christianity is true, totally agree, but I was just making the point that Christianity can and is freely mocked.

Now I'm off to Fort Knox to get some gold! :nanner:

 

[Hot Mega]

Another long post by the Blaablaapotomus...
By your [shudder} logic KWB should also be tried in other countries and cities, 'cause he was connected to acts elsewhere. See...he's a planner of ops, not a field op...[does your head hurt keeping these different concepts separated? awww...] By no means should he be being tried in civilian court in New York...neither should Jr be tried in Detroit just 'cause that's where he tried to set of his device...off to Gitmo and special conversations should be his fate...but noooo. Let's fix his boo-boo and ask him to tell us whatever he likes when he's ready.
Maybe we should take him to Amsterdam and try him there..or in the Hauge. You can surely find some justification for that, can't you? He committed a crime there (or 2).
Lump all the crap together you want, not gonna fly when dosed with some actual logic and facts...you are the king of reinterpretation, aren't you?:rofl:

What fact did you produce in any of these wild-eyed, lame-assed diatribes?? Reading the nonsense you post is honestly like watching an infant play in baby food.

Fact: Richard Reid was convicted in a Massachusetts Federal court where he would have been tried since the plane he attempted to sabotage was diverted there to land. He is now serving a life sentence without parole for attempting to detonate an explosive device in hidden in his shoe. He attempted several times to light the shoe before he was eventually subdued. They were ONLY alerted to his attempts because the smell of smoke became apparent in the cabin...meaning the horse had left the barn before he was stopped. It was only a ".... miracle" in this case that he didn't down the plane.

BOSTON, Massachusetts (CNN) -- A federal court judge on Friday accepted the guilty plea of Richard Reid, the man charged with trying to blow up a trans-Atlantic flight last December with explosives in his shoe.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/LAW/10/04/reid.guilty.plea/

The fact is, you are tried in the jurisdiction and/or jurisdictions of your crimes. Like it or not, those are the facts.

What is the daylight between the elements of Richard Reid's case and Abdulmutallab's case?

You suggested that Holder was going to send Abdulmutallab to NY to be tried just because he's sending KSM there. That off the wall suggestion illustrates your obvious and flat ignorance. KSM's alleged crimes were IN NY (among other jurisdictions). They COULD even try him in multiple jurisdictions just like the "beltway sniper" (for example).

BTW, can you show us ANYWHERE where there is some distinction in how a person who plans a crime is tried differently from a person who carries it out?

You want to talk about 2 "hits" in 11 months....Ironically you would be talking about the exact same thing that happened in the previous administration.

AA flight 587 was allegedly downed by a failed rudder according to the NTSB....EVEN THOUGH an AQ op allegedly told investigators it was a shoe bomb similar to what Reid attempted to use and witnesses claimed to have seen a small explosion.

Stand by for Philby's hallucinogen induced rant aimed in all directions....(Just watch).

 

[Philbert]

What fact did you produce in any of these wild-eyed, lame-assed diatribes?? Reading the nonsense you post is honestly like watching an infant play in baby food.

Fact: Richard Reid was convicted in a Massachusetts Federal court where he would have been tried since the plane he attempted to sabotage was diverted there to land. He is now serving a life sentence without parole for attempting to detonate an explosive device in hidden in his shoe. He attempted several times to light the shoe before he was eventually subdued. They were ONLY alerted to his attempts because the smell of smoke became apparent in the cabin...meaning the horse had left the barn before he was stopped. It was only a ".... miracle" in this case that he didn't down the plane.



http://archives.cnn.com/2002/LAW/10/04/reid.guilty.plea/

The fact is, you are tried in the jurisdiction and/or jurisdictions of your crimes. Like it or not, those are the facts.

What is the daylight between the elements of Richard Reid's case and Abdulmutallab's case?

You suggested that Holder was going to send Abdulmutallab to NY to be tried just because he's sending KSM there. That off the wall suggestion illustrates your obvious and flat ignorance. KSM's alleged crimes were IN NY (among other jurisdictions). They COULD even try him in multiple jurisdictions just like the "beltway sniper" (for example).

BTW, can you show us ANYWHERE where there is some distinction in how a person who plans a crime is tried differently from a person who carries it out?

You want to talk about 2 "hits" in 11 months....Ironically you would be talking about the exact same thing that happened in the previous administration.

AA flight 587 was allegedly downed by a failed rudder according to the NTSB....EVEN THOUGH an AQ op allegedly told investigators it was a shoe bomb similar to what Reid attempted to use and witnesses claimed to have seen a small explosion.

Stand by for Philby's hallucinogen induced rant aimed in all directions....(Just watch).

No, no...please don't stop! I'm "grinning broadly" as I read this...especially the "Philby's hallucinogen induced rant " part...
Do you have a little drool running down your chin right now?:rofl2:

So, now the current "thing"(s) you are going to repeat over and over is(are) "rant", "hallucinogen induced", and "hits". You over-worked "echo-chamber", that was a relief when you moved on from that...thank you for being the rational-sounding Hellraiser.:thumbsup:
:rofl2:

 

[Mr BLubba Lubba]

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What he did was politics and not religion.
No more than what Charles Manson did was symbolic of him being christian