NFL '13 Season Thread

[C.K. Lawrence]

Wes Welker to the Broncos.... who's the best QB he ever played with?! Those days are gone.


The Cardinals sign Drew Stanton to their 5 QB core (Stanton, Kolb, Skelton, Hoyer, Lindley) and are evidently in the hunt for Matt Cassel's services. That would be awesome.

 

[Killer B]

Reggie Bush goes to Detroit. Dashon Goldson signs with Tampa Bay.

 

[Jagger69]

All of Baltimore was shocked by Bernard Pollard being cut, but I've been thinking about it and I'm okay with it... He's getting old, he must have gotten at least 5 personal foul penalties in the playoffs, and he really isn't that good of a cover safety.. That being said, I still wish we kept him, but I understand why he's gone.

I will miss hits like this though:
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I understand how you feel. I loved him when he played for the Texans. Dude is a hitter! Also, he's a great personality to have in the locker room. Upbeat, rah-rah kinda guy.

yeah, that is a lot of money, but I just feel like he was such a huge target for Bradford when the two were able to be on the field (which wasn't too often).. He's probably gone..
I think Givens could be a sneaky guy for the rams (sort of a brian hartline) so he could step up big, I'm not so sure about Quick though... I fully expect you guys to draft a wide receiver at some point in the draft, but there are a few guys I think you guys should go after in free agency: Darrius Heyward-Bey, Kevin Walter, Steve Breaston, and maybe even Austin Collie if he's healthy. I just think you need to sign someone else at wr...

I love the signing of Jake Long, how about the Long Brother playing together??? That's pretty cool right there.

Givens will be the guy who is there to stretch the field so Cook and Kendricks will have LBs covering them across the middle. The dude is fast. The jury is still out on Quick so I absolutely agree they need another prototypical wideout. Whether that comes in free agency (Kevin Walter? God forbid :eek or the draft (risky!) remains to be seen. Also, don't rule out a draft-day trade of some sort. Rams have 2 picks in the first round again. The Long Brothers? Sounds great and I guess it would stick if they played on the same line but in reality they'll just be 2 guys on the team who have the same last name I would guess.

 

[C.K. Lawrence]

Cliff Avril signs with the Seahawks.


Danny Amendola signs with the Patriots, the deal is reported to be for five years, $31 million, with $10 million guaranteed.

 

[STDiva]

Amendola fractured his wrist signing his Patriots contract.

And Chris and Jake aren't actual brothers. But the Smith Brothers are. Probably.

9ers sign Dorsey after losing Sopoaga. Woodson also visiting San Fran. Secondary took a hit with Goldson leaving. Its a good thing we have 14 picks. Cyprien and Mathieu will be 9ers I think.

 

[ravendude16]

Amendola will forever be known as Wes Welker Jr

 

[ravendude16]

Givens will be the guy who is there to stretch the field so Cook and Kendricks will have LBs covering them across the middle. The dude is fast. The jury is still out on Quick so I absolutely agree they need another prototypical wideout. Whether that comes in free agency (Kevin Walter? God forbid :eek or the draft (risky!) remains to be seen. Also, don't rule out a draft-day trade of some sort. Rams have 2 picks in the first round again. The Long Brothers? Sounds great and I guess it would stick if they played on the same line but in reality they'll just be 2 guys on the team who have the same last name I would guess.

I know there's no way the rams will pay him the money, but if they were smart they would go after Victor Cruz, he could completely change that team. If they do sign a wr, it's going to be some extremely cheap guy, that's just how the rams are.

haha, it really doesn't matter in reality, but I have a feeling that will be some long running gag in the locker room for the rams. And you know announcers will make just terrible puns all day with that

 

[ravendude16]

And Chris and Jake aren't actual brothers. But the Smith Brothers are. Probably.

Yeah I know, it actually reminds me back when Ray Lewis and Jamal Lewis played for the ravens that was actually kind of a gag too. Like I once was able to trick my grandmother for like an entire season that they were actually brothers lol (when you're stuck watch Kyle Bollar trip over himself and fumble the ball.. you have to make your own fun)

There was actually a time (the 2001 super bowl) when we had 3 lewis' on our team.. Ray Lewis wore his jersey name as R.Lewis, Jamal Lewis wore his as J.Lewis, and Jermaine Lewis wore it as JA.Lewis... Most useless fact ever, yes I know

 

[316sherm]

Welker is be an awesome pick this year for fantasy football. I also believe Mike Wallace will be awesome for fantasy, but alot of people disagree with me. On another note, 49ers are really pushing hard to win a Superbowl. They are stacking up. Raven's fans...I believe there will not be a repeat...better yet, :wtf: and

 

[ravendude16]

Welker is be an awesome pick this year for fantasy football. I also believe Mike Wallace will be awesome for fantasy, but alot of people disagree with me. On another note, 49ers are really pushing hard to win a Superbowl. They are stacking up. Raven's fans...I believe there will not be a repeat...better yet, :wtf: and

Oh yeah, welker will be huge.. Peyton Manning made Brandon Stokely seem like a solid flex option, just imagine Peyton with that sort of west coast offense and welker, oh my.

And, I knew we wouldn't repeat, I'm just happy we got the super bowl for ray lewis and if we don't go again in another 5 years, I'm fine.. The memory of this super bowl will always be with me, but hey.. I would still like to see another one as soon as possible haha.. But really, the entire AFC is pretty bad, there are 3 teams: Denver, New England, and Baltimore that will only have a chance at making the Championship Game next year. The dolphins are Dream Team 2.0, Matt Schaub is only getting worse for the texans, the colts need one or two more years to develop, and the browns are almost the Ravens' biggest competition for the division (steelers= old, bengals= dalton sucks) :rofl2: So, 3 teams maybe 4 if you want to count the colts have a chance for that super bowl appearance, who knows, maybe we can stand a chance.

Free agency lasts more than just a week, through out the next month or two the ravens are going to silently sign some guys and we'll be fine (and for the asshole who says "we?? since when did you get signed by the team"... I pay for tickets, I pay for ravens items, and I live in Baltimore. Without fans, there would be no team)

 

[ravendude16]

I know that being a Ravens fan I shouldn't like the Browns, but they are like your younger brother who you beat up but you want to see them stand up and be good. Like the steelers, hate them.. Bengals, get on my nerves... Browns, never been a threat and a have a really good fan base.
Josh Cribbs just signed with Arizona, but this is what he posted as his good bye: http://instagram.com/p/W0go4DtItb/ (classy guy, unlike Lebron James)

 

[STDiva]

Flacco is only 6.8 million against the cap this year... So yeah, his contract has absolutely nothing to do with this... you should really try this some time: :google:

Isn't he going to count like $29 million against the cap in a couple years though? That's what is preventing them from signing long term contracts. It seems Ozzie was banking on being back in the next 2 years and then going for a a rebuild after 2015, but with all these guys getting cut, traded, etc, it makes you wonder wtf is going on.

I know that being a Ravens fan I shouldn't like the Browns, but they are like your younger brother who you beat up but you want to see them stand up and be good. Like the steelers, hate them.. Bengals, get on my nerves... Browns, never been a threat and a have a really good fan base.
Josh Cribbs just signed with Arizona, but this is what he posted as his good bye: http://instagram.com/p/W0go4DtItb/ (classy guy, unlike Lebron James)

Respect to Cribbs. I know he's not the superstar LBJ is, but that's how you leave town.

And I think Cincinnati wins that division handily now.

Also, http://www.theonion.com/articles/value-of-us-dollar-plummets-after-joe-flacco-signs,31571/

And not to downplay Flacco's stellar postseason play, but if he got that much money, what are Ryan and Rodgers going to get?

 

[D-rock]

Isn't he going to count like $29 million against the cap in a couple years though? That's what is preventing them from signing long term contracts. It seems Ozzie was banking on being back in the next 2 years and then going for a a rebuild after 2015, but with all these guys getting cut, traded, etc, it makes you wonder wtf is going on.

On one hand I do think the Ravens overpaid Flacco and he isn't worth what they are giving to him. On the other it isn't like they had too much of a choice. Flacco had pretty substantial leverage in the situation. Whom else were they going to get? Overpaying some on a decent to above average QB is still better than paying the right price for a below average and probably even an average one. (I consider Flacco an above average QB, and not nearly as highly as some people place him. I don't know why people attribute so much to a good 5 game stretch and not the years and years he played before that. Most likely how has played for years is where is real talent level is. Still above average QBs don't grow on trees.) It's also not like there is a vast multitude of QBs out there at a vast multitude of talent and price levels waiting for a team to pick them up based on what they want to pay. There is no 15 million a year QB option for them to go to that's also worth that amount, for example. It's not a normal everyday situation where if somebody doesn't want to pay an amount for a product because it's too pricy they usually have the option of going into a store and getting a slightly less or equal quality product for a slightly lesser amount in cost.

They would have been stuck at either paying a lot for one of the few mediocre QBs out there or hoping to hit the next star in the draft. (And of course since they won the Superbowl they have a pretty crappy draft position.) In either case it would basically amounted to blowing up the team and starting almost all over with rebuilding. Their defensive stars are getting old or are gone, and unlike previous years for a long time now it seems like they don't have people as good or better waiting the the wings to replace whoever was lost. That doesn't help. That they overachieved in the playoffs and got on a lucky streak doesn't help them either.

I think in the long run Flacco is going to hurt him more than not. Sooner or later it will make signing other players harder, especially if the Cap number doesn't keep going up and there are indications it might be slowing down, and like I stated above I think Flacco is somewhat north of average but not an elite QB baring some significant shift happening with him that causes him to be so.

 

[Red001]

the Ravens can't pay anybody because of the 2014 cap issues 6 players, Flacco,Suggs, rice,nagta and 2 i can't remember, will make 71 million against a likely 128-130 million dollar cap. so that's their problem not this when flacco makes 6.8 million but next.

the Broncos are making some great moves

but remember winning March means squat otherwise the Redskins would have lots more super bowl wins

 

[eric2136]

but remember winning March means squat otherwise the Redskins would have lots more super bowl wins

We're getting our ass-kicked THIS March...our strongest NFC rivals for the Superbowl like San Fran, and especially Seattle, are making big time moves picking up Bolden and Harvin, and we've done absolutely nothing worthy of note except cut our No.1 CB DeAngelo Hall, and surprise drug test Kirk Cousins at his grandmothers house ...hell yeah great job Bruce Allen, Superbowl here we come :thumbsup: !

 

[D-rock]

but remember winning March means squat otherwise the Redskins would have lots more super bowl wins

I don't think that's quite accurate though. The Redskins always seemed to sign over the hill veterans that used to be stars, but who almost everybody else in the league except the Redskins knew were getting closer to being washed up and being paid too much. The Redskins also had that strategy of where they would then use up all that money on those people and had absolutely no depth anywhere. Most people knowledgeable about football know how important those middle of the road guys are to a team. Football isn't like basketball or hockey where you can have a couple of superstars and the rest of the team be scrubs and have it work out. Combined that with Washington often just throwing away their draft pics to get those overrated aging players and it made it so they didn't have a core or cheap but good talent coming in.

It wasn't that Washington ever was good on paper in March and then underperformed (like the Eagles the last few years) as much as most people that know about football considered them a poor team all along and they ended up playing that way.

 

[Jagger69]

Tom Brady has no reason to be "bummed out" about anything with the cards that he was dealt in life. A GQ-good looks star NFL filthy-rich Super Bowl winning QB married to a supermodel who probably makes more money than he does....oh, poor baby!!! :crying:

Besides, Amendola will be a better player than Welker going forward would be my prediction. They paid a lot to get him but he's a helluva player (if he can stay healthy!).

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story...s-five-year-deal-new-england-patriots-sources

 

[eric2136]

I don't think that's quite accurate though. The Redskins always seemed to sign over the hill veterans that used to be stars, but who almost everybody else in the league except the Redskins knew were getting closer to being washed up and being paid too much. The Redskins also had that strategy of where they would then use up all that money on those people and had absolutely no depth anywhere. Most people knowledgeable about football know how important those middle of the road guys are to a team. Football isn't like basketball or hockey where you can have a couple of superstars and the rest of the team be scrubs and have it work out. Combined that with Washington often just throwing away their draft pics to get those overrated aging players and it made it so they didn't have a core or cheap but good talent coming in.

It wasn't that Washington ever was good on paper in March and then underperformed (like the Eagles the last few years) as much as most people that know about football considered them a poor team all along and they ended up playing that way.

That's not quite correct, the Redskins franchise has multiple Superbowls, and great knowledge of the game...You seem to be regurgitating media spin rather than understanding basic facts...At one time, during the Ceratto era, During Snyder's early years as owner, the Redskins did normally make extremely aggresive moves in March, most of the veterans like Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders could still definately play at a high level...the main weakness was at QB which is not an easy postion to competantly fill. And after decades of incompetance at that position, we finally have a decent system, and some talent at the core of our team in RG3 and Cousins, so now is the time to surround them with some guys who can play.

The skins were also fairly aggresive last year picking up Garcon and a few others... the result being an NFC East Championship....

But San Fran and Seatlle who were better than us last year have arguably gotten even better and have equally young and talented QB's...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that we must keep up or get left behind.

 

[D-rock]

That's not quite correct, the Redskins franchise has multiple Superbowls, and great knowledge of the game.

Ummm, yeah...back in the early 90s. That was a very long time ago, especially in sports years. Pretty much nobody in the organization is around from that time anymore.

The Redskins have been pretty incompetent for a long time now. The difference is they got lucky and had a quality QB drop in their laps to raise them to the high side of mediocrity. Even then that's if they didn't ruin his career by their monumentally stupid handling of him they did at the end of last year. If they do get better it will be because the coaching and front office start acting differently than they have the past couple of decades.

 

[eric2136]

Ummm, yeah...back in the early 90s. That was a very long time ago, especially in sports years. Pretty much nobody in the organization is around from that time anymore.

The Redskins have been pretty incompetent for a long time now. The difference is they got lucky and had a quality QB drop in their laps to raise them to the high side of mediocrity. Even then that's if they didn't ruin his career by their monumentally stupid handling of him they did at the end of last year. If they do get better it will be because the coaching and front office start acting differently than they have the past couple of decades.

Every team needs a certain amount of luck to be good..How good were the Colts without Peyton Manning...Then they get Luck in the draft and it turns their whole franchise around.

I was the biggest critic of how they handled RG3 down the stretch...esp against Seattle...I thought Shanahan could have been fired and Dr. Andrews sued for malpractice....But, in his defense, Shanahan did put in the Read Option when nobody said it could be sustainable...he won the NFC East with it...and Wilson and Kapernick now basically do the same thing, and The Niners went all the way to the Superbowl with it...So the Shanahans are far from stupid or incompetant. But the way the organization handled RG3'a injury, and the non-action by the player's union, was embarassing and criminally negligent. But that is the culture of the NFL in general, not just the Redskins.

I was half joking about the job Bruce Allen is doing, but as a fan I don't like to see Harvin and Bolden going to our conference rivals, and we make no moves...it's still early, but I would certainly feel better if we were making some moves to improve, on paper or otherwise.