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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/06/stubbornness-leads-to-rg3-reinjury/

First of All, Dr. Andrews hasn't cleared RG3 to play since THE BALTIMORE GAME !http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1473301-rg3-injury-are-redskins-destroying-gifted-qbs-future

I think it's pretty understood at this point that Shanahan totally fucked up royally by not subbing in Cousins MUCH earlier. According to NFL TV analyst, Deion Sanders, an ex-player, The little red room they took RG3 too during the game is the "feel good" room where team doctors shoot up players to numb up injuries so they can continue to play. Playing with that type of injury is always dangerous to the player, and usually causes much worse exaserbation of the "shot up" injury .

In this situation, Dr. Andrews can only give RG3 the needle, then advise Shanahan as to what he thinks, he cannot pull RG3 himself for a knee...Andrews told Shanahan he was concerned, but Shanahan played him anyways...but really you didn't need Dr.Andrews to say anything because it was obvious RG3 was hurt,,,It's just up to Shanahan to make the right decision and pull him, which should have been a no-brainer considering we have a more than capable back-up that has won games for us this year.

Shanahan's failure to pull RG3 costed us the game and further worsened RG3's knee injury. This was TOTALLY Shanahans call and he fucked it up. To try and shift the blame to RG3 or Dr.Andrews, in any way, just makes him look even more like an incompetant coward.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...failed-qb-should-not-have-been-in-game-010613

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/06/stubbornness-leads-to-rg3-reinjury/

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-rg3-knee-injury-shanahan-20130107,0,7893049.story

Did you play pro ball? Herm both played and coached. He was very adamant about his backing of Shanahan.
 
Did you play pro ball? Herm both played and coached. He was very adamant about his backing of Shanahan.



You don't need to play pro footabll to tell RG3 was hurt...it was obvious. Player's don't self diagnose themselves and dictate to the coach when and if they play, that's just ridiculous, if that were the case Alex Smith would still be a starter. It's the coach's decision.

There are an overwhelming majority of former player's who follow the Skins much closer than Herm Edwards that aren't afraid to tell the truth, including Brian Mitchell, Doc Walker, and Trevor Matich.


"That was a guy who was obviously injured, ok?" Brian Mitchell said on Comcast SportsNet’s post-game live, while footage of RGIII hobbling out of bounds played over his voice. "I played quarterback. And I think I was a damn good athlete. If I was limping like that, I’m not — I am NOT – anywhere close to being 75 percent. And I think at that point, he should have been out of the game….Those type of guys, you’ve got to help protect them. And I think Robert should have been protected today from himself."
http://dc.sbnation.com/2013/1/7/384...itchell-doc-walker-trevor-matich-speak-out-vs

I think Shanahan is overall a good coach, and I'd hate to see him go, but there is clearly some type of emotional disconnect going on with him plus he is telling the media bold-faced lies regarding RG3's injury and him being evaluated and cleared by Dr. Andrews.

Further, his strategy was fundamentally flawed in playing a clearly injured player when we had a more than capable back-up. I'd kinda hate to see Shanahan get fired because he definately helped build us into a winner this year, but the guy has some serious issues.

For him to keep his job, he should come clean regarding his obvious mistakes and lies. And there needs to be a change in the culture of how player's injurys are evaluated and dealt wiith in the future. Especially by the Redskins, but also by all NFL teams.
 
Not a fairy tale ending season for him... Those injuries like his are recurring, and with that last fall he had on the fumble.. didn't look too good...

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http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...failed-qb-should-not-have-been-in-game-010613

RG3 will be back good as new and will have a lonnnng HOF career, the injuries to his knee are about what I expected. Injuries are part of the game, everybody said AP not only wouldn't be the same, but was THRU, but he came back early and put up 2000 yrds. Mark Shlereth had 29 surguries during his long career, 20 of those surguries were on his knees, and 13 of those procedures were on his left knee. Yet he still won 3 Superbowls.

RG3 should definately win ROY for being the ultimate warrior, enduring pain, sacrificing his body for the team and leading us to a Division Title against all odds.

The NFL/media corporate entities are in bed together and will protect their financial interests against the players as always, so the only question now is the legitimacy of the NFLPA, and if/ when the NFLPA will commence it's offiicial Article 50 investigation of the RG3 incident. And then accordingly how long will it take for Shanahan and Andrews to stop their pathetic charade of rambling inconsistant lies and accept the blame for their gross negligence resulting in the horrible and grotesque injury to RG3 that has greatly endangered the future of our franchise QB, and jeopardized the Redskins championship aspirations for the forseeable future.

DeMaurice Smith, executive director of the NFL Players Association, said in a televised interview Tuesday that the union is gathering information about the Redskins’ handling of Griffin’s injury.

“I did ask our medical director to reach out to Dr. Andrews and to reach out to the team,” Smith said during an appearance on ESPN. “It’s a question whether or not we’ll actually do a formal investigation pursuant to Article 50 of the [collective bargaining agreement]. But there was enough of an inconsistency or a question about whether the process of evaluating the player occurred, whether he was cleared to play, not cleared to play.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ee-exam-continues/?wprss=rss_football-insider

As in the case of concussions, the message has to be sent sooner or later that we are living in a new era of accountablility and player safety. The old culture of ignoring a player's health and injecting a knee with quick fix cortisone shots that relieve the pain but permanently and signifigantly damage the knee is criminal and has got to end. http://www.caringmedical.com/sports_injury/knee_injury_and_cortisone.asp. Everybody involved with pro football knows the expansive dark side of the sport. It's time for more of it to be brought into the light and cleaned up.

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okay he will be the qb again in 2014. in 2013 it will be Kirk Cousins. i figure 8-8 is realistic record since we get a 1st place schedule. btw Tom Brady and Carson Palmer had similar surgeries and the first year back they looked not so good but in the 2nd year they where fine. nobody is AP lets just assume that.
 
okay he will be the qb again in 2014. in 2013 it will be Kirk Cousins. i figure 8-8 is realistic record since we get a 1st place schedule. btw Tom Brady and Carson Palmer had similar surgeries and the first year back they looked not so good but in the 2nd year they where fine. nobody is AP lets just assume that.

He'll be back in 6-8 months in full working order.
 
The NHL season may not have started yet, but the Dallas Stars seem to be in midseason fighting form - at least on Twitter.

The Dallas Cowboys official account tweeted a shot at the NHL, posting: "Similarly in the category of nobody-cares....the NHL is back!" The tweet has since been deleted.


The Dallas Stars hardly took the shot at their league lying down and hit the Cowboys right where - well, where everybody else hits them - their quarterback.

Referring to their 1999 championship, the Stars tweeted a picture of a triumphant Mike Modano raising the Stanley Cup with the message "At least our #9 got the job done."


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...ys-insult-nhl-article-1.1236168#ixzz2HVfMVak1

lol @ the Dallas Cowboys talkin' shit.
 
The NHL season may not have started yet, but the Dallas Stars seem to be in midseason fighting form - at least on Twitter.

The Dallas Cowboys official account tweeted a shot at the NHL, posting: "Similarly in the category of nobody-cares....the NHL is back!" The tweet has since been deleted.


The Dallas Stars hardly took the shot at their league lying down and hit the Cowboys right where - well, where everybody else hits them - their quarterback.

Referring to their 1999 championship, the Stars tweeted a picture of a triumphant Mike Modano raising the Stanley Cup with the message "At least our #9 got the job done."


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...ys-insult-nhl-article-1.1236168#ixzz2HVfMVak1

lol @ the Dallas Cowboys talkin' shit.
They don't want NHL in their city I guess. Fucking idiots.
 
The NHL season may not have started yet, but the Dallas Stars seem to be in midseason fighting form - at least on Twitter.

The Dallas Cowboys official account tweeted a shot at the NHL, posting: "Similarly in the category of nobody-cares....the NHL is back!" The tweet has since been deleted.


The Dallas Stars hardly took the shot at their league lying down and hit the Cowboys right where - well, where everybody else hits them - their quarterback.

Referring to their 1999 championship, the Stars tweeted a picture of a triumphant Mike Modano raising the Stanley Cup with the message "At least our #9 got the job done."


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...ys-insult-nhl-article-1.1236168#ixzz2HVfMVak1

lol @ the Dallas Cowboys talkin' shit.

That's amazing. Who do the Cowboys think they are?
 

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I'm hoping Denver, Green Bay, Atlanta, and New England all win this weekend.
 

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And on another note....

While I would not dispute that if RGIII was healthy it would have been a different game, I find it comical that when the dust all settled it was about how THEY didn't play well, not how Seattle's defense adjusts and shut them down. Gonna point out 2 or 3 plays that had a dropped pass or something, like that never happens in a win. Of course for those of us up here in Seattle we already know at least 10 other teams that have said that this year....always the same line....."oh they're ok on defense, we just didn't play well." Hahahahahahahahah Yeah must be our ugly uniforms just make everyone play poorly.
 
just to sum up the past week of conversation:

I hate Shanahan with a passion.. Not because he allowed RG3 to play while he looked like an amputee running around out there... But, for what he did in 2006.

That fucking dumbass benched Jake Plummer, who led them to the AFC championship in 2005, for Jay Cutler who was a rookie... He's the reason, Jake Plummer, one of my favorite quarterbacks in the past 15 years, retired.. And I've always hated him since
 
for a smiling face....denver-10 san fran-3 that is all for now...but i will be back. to be continued......
 
Is this Denver secondary serious? And Fox wouldn't let Peyton throw on 3 and 7 to end the game? Then he doesn't go for it with 30 seconds left.and two timeouts? I hope Baltimore wins. Fox is a bitch.
 
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