NFL '11 Season Thread

i can't believe randy moss is retiring. what a waste. im sure randy moss is not worse than 64 wide receivers in the nfl right now.

I'm also sure that after all these years he's not going to want to get paid much less than most of the big name receivers either, which is what would happen.

He probably is along with Marvin Harrison the greatest wide receiver of his generation.
 
Trent 'Dickface' Dilfer is back at it. As if seeing him on TV isn't vomit worthy enough...

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/41811/how-to-identify-nfls-best-quarterbacks

How in the fuck is a bullshit quarterback gonna fuckin' tell me anything about what a good QB looks like? This fucktard has Kitna and Kerry fuckin' Collins ranked above Jay Cutler and Brett Favre?!?!?!? How is this asshole still working???????

How to identify good quarterbacks? Hmmm...I think I will instead take the obvious approach and go with the ones that make their team score a lot of points, unlike the ones like Kerry Collins. :1orglaugh
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
....had the potential to be the greatest wide receiver of his generation.

Fixed. Moss is lazy, selfish, disruptive and takes off way too many plays. To even mention him in the same sentence with a guy like Marvin Harrison is an insult to Harrison.

Moss is perhaps the greatest WR talent ever to put on the cleats. Too bad he didn't have the dedication to live up to that talent.
 
Fixed. Moss is lazy, selfish, disruptive and takes off way too many plays. To even mention him in the same sentence with a guy like Marvin Harrison is an insult to Harrison.

Moss is perhaps the greatest WR talent ever to put on the cleats. Too bad he didn't have the dedication to live up to that talent.

Which is why retirement is a bad idea for Moss.

Look, if anyone needed an on-field redemption story, it Randy Moss. I can argue that no player EVER needed one worse that 84. He says he wanted to come to a team with the potential to win a ring, and his agent said he was in great shape. If so, he should've ran a streak route to one team, and one team only...


The Chicago Bears.



The Bears can potentially give him everything he needs in a ring potential team, and more! Here's why:

1: Jay Cutler: Jay will do two things that Randy needs badly. Very, very few QB's throw a better 20 to 50 yard deep ball the Cutler, and he's got his own media issues. Cutler can get him the ball and has just enough asshole personality to keep the media light on himself... not randy.

2: Mike Martz: No coach has mastered a quick air offense like Martz, and it fits what Randy does like a glove. Ask Johnny Knox. He amassed 960 recieving yards last year. RB Matt Forte lead the team in receptions. Now they actually have a 'real' reciever in Roy Williams'. Williams and Forte handle short and mid yardage, and speedsters Hester, Knox, and Moss can make unstoppable long range targets.

3: The NFC North: The Bears won this division last year, and though they lost to the Packers, the margin victory between the three games was under a touchdown. Not to mention, you'd get to play against Minnesota twice a year as well. The Bears, even with a division crown, are way under the radar and borderline disrespected.

4: Lovie Smith: I have to wonder if the level headed African American coach is the key. I'm thinking that Lovie can speak to Randy on a different level. Martz won't have any problem drawing up situations to maximize Moss, but Randy has always need that little bit of extra from his head coach, and I think Smith can provide it.

The Bears are not as far away as people think. The Bears know that the Packers are beatable, especially without Bear killers Nick Barnett and Cullen Jenkins. The Bears know they can their defense can stop Vick, who is 0-4 against Chicago all-time as a starter. The big question mark is Atlanta, whom Chicago did not play last year at all. Moss can make Chicago as very serious contender for a ring this year, IMO.
 
So, what? They will look like crap most of the year, get lucky in the play-offs, and get exposed in the Superbowl?

But seriously, they did improve that D and that worries me. But at QB, you have a guy that has never played an entire season and a malcontent.

:stfu: my man.. .you must be a giant fan, and a clueless one at that. Vick played and started all 16 games with the falcons in '06 and he started and played in all but one game in '02 , '04, and '05. Plus, the eagles are not done in the Free Agency, and our line will improve substantially this year. Have no fear in vick he will do all he needs to and then some, and when he cant do no more, hell dish it Shady Mccoy to pile on some more points. Now, what worries me about the birds, is their Kicker, bc Akers is gone and i have no faith in our backup who ive never even seen before play. And idk about our punter either with rocca leaving. I think well figure it out tho, as well as hopefully get a big name backer which would just be icing on top of the icing already on my cake.
 
I'm just happy:) the seasons getting started. I hope my Chiefs can pick up some depth on the line and maybe a backup QB. My Packers... yes, can't wait to start defending that title. :D :bowdown:
 
I'm saying the Packers don't even make the playoffs next year. They slipped in on a Desean Jackson kickoff return last year. Their division is a fuck of a lot tougher this year, and Philly, Atlanta, Chicago, New Orleans are pretty much guarenteed 4 spots next year. Including whichever sap wins the NFC West, that leaves 1 spot. Tampa, Minnesota and New York and Dallas are more likely to win that Wild Card spot before Green Bay, IMO.
 

BCT

Pucker Up Butter Cup.
Man the Eagles are just going after it this year! Talk about having a great offseason!
 
Damnit Baltimore! Not only will we not have Josh Wilson, but now it looks like we won't have Landry...

Yeah, but I think get did resign Chris Carr which is a good thing. Well my Ravens will win the AFC North but not the Super Bowl but you nerve know.
 
Eagles add Ryan Harris to the RT spot. A 25- year old Tackle from Denver who is considered to be one of the best at his position. He really alleviates some of the stress ive been having worrying about my boy Michael Vick. Now, to fix the Linebacker core. Perhaps... sign tamba hali... play him at OLB ?
 
Fixed. Moss is lazy, selfish, disruptive and takes off way too many plays. To even mention him in the same sentence with a guy like Marvin Harrison is an insult to Harrison.

Moss is perhaps the greatest WR talent ever to put on the cleats. Too bad he didn't have the dedication to live up to that talent.

He probably had the potential to be the greatest receiver ever, but I only judging him with his on the field performance, which sadly, was still one of the greatest ever despite his lack of effort he put up occasionally. When ranking players according to skill I don't use reasoning of what they did outside of the playing field or their personality to do so. That means nice guys often end up behind people that are jerks.

It's both sad and amazing he was still that good with the attitude he had and his work ethic, but even though it's rare it happens in sports. As flawed as he was one could make a good argument he's the second best wide receiver to ever play.
 
Which is why retirement is a bad idea for Moss.

Look, if anyone needed an on-field redemption story, it Randy Moss. I can argue that no player EVER needed one worse that 84. He says he wanted to come to a team with the potential to win a ring, and his agent said he was in great shape. If so, he should've ran a streak route to one team, and one team only...


The Chicago Bears.



The Bears can potentially give him everything he needs in a ring potential team, and more! Here's why:

1: Jay Cutler: Jay will do two things that Randy needs badly. Very, very few QB's throw a better 20 to 50 yard deep ball the Cutler, and he's got his own media issues. Cutler can get him the ball and has just enough asshole personality to keep the media light on himself... not randy.

2: Mike Martz: No coach has mastered a quick air offense like Martz, and it fits what Randy does like a glove. Ask Johnny Knox. He amassed 960 recieving yards last year. RB Matt Forte lead the team in receptions. Now they actually have a 'real' reciever in Roy Williams'. Williams and Forte handle short and mid yardage, and speedsters Hester, Knox, and Moss can make unstoppable long range targets.

3: The NFC North: The Bears won this division last year, and though they lost to the Packers, the margin victory between the three games was under a touchdown. Not to mention, you'd get to play against Minnesota twice a year as well. The Bears, even with a division crown, are way under the radar and borderline disrespected.

4: Lovie Smith: I have to wonder if the level headed African American coach is the key. I'm thinking that Lovie can speak to Randy on a different level. Martz won't have any problem drawing up situations to maximize Moss, but Randy has always need that little bit of extra from his head coach, and I think Smith can provide it.

The Bears are not as far away as people think. The Bears know that the Packers are beatable, especially without Bear killers Nick Barnett and Cullen Jenkins. The Bears know they can their defense can stop Vick, who is 0-4 against Chicago all-time as a starter. The big question mark is Atlanta, whom Chicago did not play last year at all. Moss can make Chicago as very serious contender for a ring this year, IMO.

:nono:

Moss always has been and always will be a Queen, first and foremost. Aside from that organization being the one that essentially gave him his chance (remember 20 teams passed on him), when he goes into the Hall it will be as a Queen. :hatsoff:

Real shame the way he acted last year though, as a McNabb/Moss duo would have been explosive.
 
:nono:

Moss always has been and always will be a Queen, first and foremost. Aside from that organization being the one that essentially gave him his chance (remember 20 teams passed on him), when he goes into the Hall it will be as a Queen. :hatsoff:

Real shame the way he acted last year though, as a McNabb/Moss duo would have been explosive.

He's a hall of famer, just not a first ballot hall of famer
 
He'll be back, possible as a raider :rofl:
 
People inducted into the NFL Hall of Fame don't go into it like the MLB Hall of Fame. The people that elected into the NFL Hall of Fame go in as individuals and not as members of a team.

But most will be forever linked with the team that they had the most impact on. You think anyone will say the name Jerry Rice and think of the Seahawks before they think of the 49ers? :noway: How about Earl Campbell and the Saints? :noway: Brett Farve and the Jets?:noway: Emmit Smith and the Cardinals? C'mon, that doesn't even sound right. I do agree with your point, but the average person is probably gonna attach a name to an organization. Unless your name is Dieon Sanders that is.

He'll be back, possible as a raider :rofl:

He's already done that dance. Don't think its gonna happen again.

All this Moss talk made me go and dig this up:

 
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