NFL '11 Season Thread

[Basedow]

Wasn't that leading to be the basis of my point in all of this to begin with? Now do you think Magic and Bird weren't in fierce competition with each other as rivals for championships???????????




With all due respect to the 'ORGAN..." around Brady...that organization doesn't make a single play on the field. Players like Asante Samuel and Deion Branch do (for example). I don't care how many good players you try to plug and play with...it's still not equivalent nor as good as having a Reggie Wayne, Clarke, Harrison and Edge' James all those years together.:dunno: I don't care how you spin it.

^^Another example of consistency. Every hear of 'The Triplets'?:eek:


No. Cassell probably leads them to 14 wins.:2 cents:

Organization is that thing people refer to when refering to a franchise Mega. Kind of like that thing Manning got thrown into day one which was still reeling from the failure of the Jeff George experience and subsequently the worst franchise in the NFL. And Cassell leading a team Manning last year led to 10 wins to, in your opinion, 14 wins, kind of leads me to believe I'm wasting my time even arguing with you on this subject

 

[Selena_Night_87]

Lol

 

[ravendude16]

Jacksonville @ Carolina
Houston @ New Orleans
San Francisco @ Cincinnati
Miami @ Cleveland
New England @ Buffalo
New York Giants @ Philadelphia
Denver @ Tennessee
Detroit @ Minnesota
New York Jets @ Oakland
Kansas City @ San Diego
Baltimore @ St Louis
Atlanta @ Tampa Bay
Green Bay@ Chicago
Arizona @ Seattle
Pittsburgh @ Indianapolis
Washington @ Dallas

Yep.. That's right, I picked the Bills... Upset!

 

[Ace Bandage]

No. Cassell probably leads them to 14 wins.:2 cents:

What little credibility you had is gone. That's by far the most idiotic thing you've posted in this thread, and there was plenty to choose from.

Cassell is fucking garbage. There's no way he would lead Indy to 14. This team was going to struggle to get to 11 or 12 wins this year even with Peyton at the helm. To think that they would win 14 with Matt fucking Cassell at QB is ridiculous. Seriously, do you watch football?

:wtf:

 

[316sherm]

Jacksonville @ Carolina
Houston @ New Orleans
San Francisco @ Cincinnati
Miami @ Cleveland
New England @ Buffalo <---UPSET PICK
New York Giants @ Philadelphia
Denver @ Tennessee
Detroit @ Minnesota
New York Jets @ Oakland
Kansas City @ San Diego
Baltimore @ St Louis
Atlanta @ Tampa Bay
Green Bay@ Chicago
Arizona @ Seattle
Pittsburgh @ Indianapolis
Washington @ Dallas

:dunno:
:2 cents:

 

[Hot Mega]

What little credibility you had is gone. That's by far the most idiotic thing you've posted in this thread, and there was plenty to choose from.

No matter how strongly you think you feel about this ARy...you just disagree. That's all.:2 cents:

But that is hilarious...AwRy chiding someone (ANYONE) on credibility. Good one bro...:rofl2:

Cassell is fucking garbage. There's no way he would lead Indy to 14. This team was going to struggle to get to 11 or 12 wins this year even with Peyton at the helm. To think that they would win 14 with Matt fucking Cassell at QB is ridiculous. Seriously, do you watch football?

You really get emotional man. Take a chill...I know channeling TO for halloween can be fun but mannn!!! Let the day get here.:1orglaugh


Speaking of TO, of COURSE I watch football...that's how I know your boy Peyton was a first class choke artist as his feet acted so happy at one time in his career I thought they were gay.

Brady is a great QB so is Manning. Of course as contemporary rivals they want to out do each other just like any other circumstance. I mean, do you even watch football???

 

[Ace Bandage]

I see you TO, and raise you one giant vagina:



Bernard Pollard (Boilermaker), FTW!

 

[BCT]

Didn't Matt Cassel throw like 5 or 6 picks? All his fault btw lol

 

[alexpnz]

I see you TO, and raise you one giant vagina:



Bernard Pollard (Boilermaker), FTW!

Matt Cassell should "thank" Tom Brady and that very incident for that big contract he got w/ Kansas City that will eventually end in mediocrity....if it hasn't begun already!

Even in his own misery, Tom Terrific makes stars...:clap:

 

[YumiYumi_1988]

What little credibility you had is gone. That's by far the most idiotic thing you've posted in this thread, and there was plenty to choose from.

Cassell is fucking garbage. There's no way he would lead Indy to 14. This team was going to struggle to get to 11 or 12 wins this year even with Peyton at the helm. To think that they would win 14 with Matt fucking Cassell at QB is ridiculous. Seriously, do you watch football?

:wtf:

Well, Cassell is not garbage, he is a decent QB. But you have a point. In Kansas City, he has (well had, bye bye Jamaal Charles) 3 runningbacks who are more capable than any of Indy's RBs. His job is to not fuck the game up, which he's done quite well in both New England and Kansas City. But if you stuck him in Indianapolis where he had to actually win a game on his own, good luck.

I see you TO, and raise you one giant vagina:



Bernard Pollard (Boilermaker), FTW!

:1orglaugh

 

[Hot Mega]

I see you TO, and raise you one giant:

Didn't Matt Cassel throw like 5 or 6 picks? All his fault btw lol

Matt Cassell should "thank" Tom Brady and that very incident for that big contract he got w/ Kansas City that will eventually end in mediocrity....if it hasn't begun already!

Even in his own misery, Tom Terrific makes stars...:clap:

Well, Cassell is not garbage, he is a decent QB. But you have a point. In Kansas City, he has (well had, bye bye Jamaal Charles) 3 runningbacks who are more capable than any of Indy's RBs. His job is to not fuck the game up, which he's done quite well in both New England and Kansas City. But if you stuck him in Indianapolis where he had to actually win a game on his own, good luck.

For the stat lover in you guys...

Matt Cassel

2010 Abbrev stats.
G-15, QBRat-93, Comp %-58.2, TD-27, INT-7, Rush-50, Yards-189

2010 record
10-6 (lost first round of the playoffs)

Peyton Manning

2010 Abbrev. stats.
G-16, QBRat-91.9, Comp %-66.3, TD-33, INT-17, Rush-18, Yards-18

2010 record
10-6 (lost first round of the playoffs)

?:dunno:

 

[BCT]

Mega you can't compare Cassell to Manning are you kidding me? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

 

[PJpenny]

Jacksonville @ Carolina
Houston @ New Orleans
San Francisco @ Cincinnati
Miami @ Cleveland
New England @ Buffalo My shocker pick of the week
New York Giants @ Philadelphia
Denver @ Tennessee
Detroit @ Minnesota
New York Jets @ Oakland
Kansas City @ San Diego
Baltimore @ St Louis
Atlanta @ Tampa Bay
Green Bay@ Chicago
Arizona @ Seattle
Pittsburgh @ Indianapolis
Washington @ Dallas

 

[STDiva]

Mega you can't compare Cassell to Manning are you kidding me? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm surprised he's speaking highly of Cassel even though he never played for Michigan. :1orglaugh If he doesn't talk Cassel up, it's kills his case for Brady's superiority. Cassel is a POS who played awesome in the Pats system, even throwing for yardage Brady had yet to throw. It's probably a safe bet if the Pats traded Brady to KC and Kept Cassel, both teams would be performing exactly the same as they are right now.

Did anybody see this??



Hilarious!!

 

[BCT]

Did anybody see this??



Hilarious!!

Must have been possessed by Josh Harrelson of Kentucky, only explanation I can think of!

 

[Ace Bandage]

Chad Pennington was the highest rated passer in the NFL in 2002. He threw 22 TDs and only 6 picks. Brady was the 9th highest rated passer that year. He threw 28 TDs and 6 picks. The Jets also won the division that year, beating out the Patriots who failed to make the playoffs.

By your logic, we can take one season from each one of those 2 QBs, compare them, and then judge them as equal based on that one season. So in 2003, when the Pats won the SB, they could have used Pennington at QB and still had the same results, right? I mean that's the same comparison that you did. You looked at one season and said that Cassell could fill in for Peyton based on his stats from the previous year. I did the same thing with Chad.

Comparing Peyton to Cassell is asinine as comparing Brady to Pennington. Good call by you though. Any other bright ideas, Scooter?

Did anybody see this??



Hilarious!!

Why is he throwing the ball at someone on the sidelines in his home stadium? I had the Giants D going in fantasy though, so I was not really that displeased with his actions.

 

[Hot Mega]

Chad Pennington was the highest rated passer in the NFL in 2002. He threw 22 TDs and only 6 picks. Brady was the 9th highest rated passer that year. He threw 28 TDs and 6 picks. The Jets also won the division that year, beating out the Patriots who failed to make the playoffs.

By your logic, we can take one season from each one of those 2 QBs, compare them, and then judge them as equal based on that one season. So in 2003, when the Pats won the SB, they could have used Pennington at QB and still had the same results, right? I mean that's the same comparison that you did. You looked at one season and said that Cassell could fill in for Peyton based on his stats from the previous year. I did the same thing with Chad.

Comparing Peyton to Cassell is asinine as comparing Brady to Pennington. Good call by you though. Any other bright ideas, Scooter?

Gad-zooks!!! You too??!? Why is this not surprising?:1orglaugh....How many of you is that now, 7 or 8?? No never mind... Enjoy your time...

(Back to the topic) The point wasn't necessarily the comparison dude. Amid all of the huffing and puffing against Cassel I thought it noteworthy to point out how he fared in '10 along side Manning. Pretty comparable...and NO ONE believes the Chiefs were on par with the Colts...or do you??

Yes, I believe if Cassel was backing up Manning for 3 full years and got to start in his place a 4th (as he did in Brady's stead) he would have been accordingly successful. If he couldn't what the fuck would you be paying him to be a back up for?? As it stands..who the fuck should expect the Colts to be doing anything with an aged QB they dragged out of retirement and threw a jersey??? You're surprised your Colts are going to suck in light of that????

Re: Pennington...Uh, the man was drafted in the first round and Brady was drafted in the 6th of the same fucking draft geni...uh ARy. So OBVIOUSLY MANY fucking people thought higher of him than Brady.

Whatever became of him has to do with many factors..He certainly wasn't afforded all of the advantages of Manning or even Brady. I don't know what Pennington is worth...

I don't fault Cassel for not appearing as a starter for some time in during his career...The shit happens ...Brady should be the quintessential example of what can happen if you're pinned behind capable players.

What would have become of Brady (and by extension the Pats) had Bledsoe not gotten hurt????

Brady may not have ever become 'Brady'. The reasoning of this isn't obvious to you???

Here's a clue, mine your own fucking business and maybe you can think straight.

 

[YumiYumi_1988]

For the stat lover in you guys...

Matt Cassel

2010 Abbrev stats.
G-15, QBRat-93, Comp %-58.2, TD-27, INT-7, Rush-50, Yards-189

2010 record
10-6 (lost first round of the playoffs)

Peyton Manning

2010 Abbrev. stats.
G-16, QBRat-91.9, Comp %-66.3, TD-33, INT-17, Rush-18, Yards-18

2010 record
10-6 (lost first round of the playoffs)

?:dunno:

There are 2 glaring omissions from this list, which you strategically withheld. One is passing yards. Manning threw much more, as he was the one counted on to win games. The other is pass attempts/yards per attempt. Manning dwarfs Cassel in these. Cassel, despite the fact the fact he throws much less, doesn't have to deal with defenses set up against the pass, and isn't the type of QB to throw into tight spaces, still managed to have a completion % way lower than Manning, who does have those things working against him. It's just like RBs who carry less have an advantage in the yards per carry category, the more you carry, the more it hurts your average, which is why no one argues that Jamaal Charles is as good Adrian Peterson despite a superior rushing average. But by your logic, Jamaal Charles is the best runningback in the league.

And also in the 4th quarter, Peyton Manning is Dirk Nowitzki, and Matt Cassel is LeBron James.

 

[Hot Mega]

There are 2 glaring omissions from this list, which you strategically withheld. One is passing yards. Manning threw much more, as he was the one counted on to win games. The other is pass attempts/yards per attempt. Manning dwarfs Cassel in these.

I omitted all that because it's hard to determine key factors like how much of it bears on the QB versus screen passes and other types of circumstance were YAC is more determinative in a play than what the QB did.:2 cents: See, simple explanation...I don't use intellectual dishonesty when trying to demonstrate a point. It's not that serious and what are you after you sacrifice your integrity for the purpose of trying to win a losing point??

Cassel, despite the fact the fact he throws much less, doesn't have to deal with defenses set up against the pass, and isn't the type of QB to throw into tight spaces, still managed to have a completion % way lower than Manning, who does have those things working against him. It's just like RBs who carry less have an advantage in the yards per carry category, the more you carry, the more it hurts your average, which is why no one argues that Jamaal Charles is as good Adrian Peterson despite a superior rushing average. But by your logic, Jamaal Charles is the best runningback in the league.

Not sure what you actually said in that mumbo up there but QBs play a game plan and the game plan can change because after all, the other team is trying to win too.

And also in the 4th quarter, Peyton Manning is Dirk Nowitzki, and Matt Cassel is LeBron James.

Cassel isn't Lebron....He's not even worthy of being mentioned in the same breath as Lebron. Lebron has won many games in the 4th...he's just not won championships.

Dirk and Manning is an apt comparison...both were long considered choke artists but overcame eventually.

 

[Chrism86354]

My week 3 predictions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZFpnQMyZ58