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Brino said:
1) no i have my own opinion but you are influenced by all the childish games and many medias that makes of you a perfect sheep, you would like a system where people pay for other people. not many people want that.
2) piloting a plane is probably more than enough risky especially when that plane was subject to accidents.
hypocrite no, many persons asks questions about his wounds and medals and why he stayed so short on the field. so better not flame people, understand?
thanks.
georges said:
1) You have your own opinion! Wow! Your opinion is exactly like so many other conservatives "own opinion" so that must be one hell of a coincidence, or your all sheep! And people like you dont like helping other people because your greedy! That answers that!
2) Piloting a plane is safer than driving your car and because Bush flew a plane he's courageous!? What a joke! :rofl:
Brino said:
1)the fact that someone has the same opinion means that he is a sheep :wtf:
maybe are you enough immature or maybe are you stupid to understand that the sytem you want fucks up the health care systems of lot of european countries and is making those countries bankrupt. I don't like lazy people and people who are willing to take advantage of other efforts2)what an meaningless and childish remark. that confirms what i say you know nothing about airplanes.The f102 was one of the most dangerous plane to fly ever, it didn't have fly by wire flight systems or advanced electronics, it was an extremely complicated plane to fly so
how could it be more easier than piloting a car???:wtf: It was also the plane that has the highest dead rate 70pilots killed per f102.Someone who flew an f102 has and had balls to do it.
member5726
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I think Brino meant that its strange that the Republicans have all the same opinions, everybody thinks the same. At least the Democrats have different opinions on different things.
georges said:1)the fact that someone has the same opinion means that he is a sheep :wtf:
2)what an meaningless and childish remark. that confirms what i say you know nothing about airplanes.The f102 was one of the most dangerous plane to fly ever, it didn't have fly by wire flight systems or advanced electronics, it was an extremely complicated plane to fly so
how could it be more easier than piloting a car???:wtf: It was also the plane that has the highest dead rate 70pilots killed per f102.Someone who flew an f102 has and had balls to do it.
1) Ohhh so when it comes to your economy hurting were supposed to care but when others are in need then it's their own fault, that makes sense! I didnt say that you couldnt have different opinions, I just said that when you take the exact same opinion of another republican the moment you hear it that makes you a sheep!
2) I wasnt commenting on the planes danger factor compared to other planes I was commenting that it's safer to fly a plane than to drive! And I dont know how accurate those numbers are anyways but I doubt it was that many deaths per plane and until you prove otherwise I'm not going to believe it! Although ask yourself this question, how many people died flying that plane compared to how many people died in Vietnam!? I'm willing to bet that more people died in Vietnam than flying a dumbass plane!
Brino said:
1) You want that system of social Assisting but many people don't.
Here is what i think of who are democrats for me:
they're for:
abortion
higher taxes
higher spending
affirmative action
political correctness
socialized medicine
they're against:
the police
the military
gun rights
capital punishment
business
school vouchers
rich people
They're for: "higher taxes."
Yes, most news people are. But I've never heard one call for, say, full government-driven collection and re-distribution of all goods and funds (which would be more liberal in the modern sense of the word).
It is true that they are slightly left of center (ie center-left) while most of the country is center-right, but the mainstream media is far from being leftist.
Go listen to some of those socialist radio channels and compare their "news" to that of CNN, etc., and you'll see what I mean.
And I don't know if they are against the "rich." They are just against the rich who don't agree with them
You are good socialist, you have learnt your Moore lesson like a good brainwashed person.
I am sure that in Class you are one of those lazy persons who wants to cheat on the best.
2) you forgot to mention usaf, usmc and usnavy pilots who died in combat in vietnam.And a lot of pilots were dead or missing during vietnam.
georges said:
1) Typical! More lies from a lying liar! Do you really want to know what I'm for and against georges!? Ok here it is:
For:
Abortion
Higher taxation (of the rich)
The Military and Police
Free Healthcare
Legalization of Marijuana
Gay Marriage
Capital Punishment
Undecided:
Affirmative Action
Against:
Gun Rights (to an extent)
Exporting Jobs
Large Salaries for CEOs
Higher taxation (of the poor)
Well there you have it, that's basically what I'm for and against!
It's funny that I noticed you put Higher Spending under something that democrats are for but the current administration appears to be for it as well seeing as theyve spent more than any other previous administration! :rofl:
2) Your changing the subject again, but you go ahead and do that since you obviously cant defened what Bush did (or should I say didnt) do during the war! Bush never fought in Vietnam so it's pointless to refer to pilots who died there! The fact of the matter is that Bush never left the continental United States and never saw combat. His job was to fly a plane which wasnt that dangerous of a job and there are questions as to whether he even fulfilled his duties! Kerry on the other hand volunteered for Vietnam and actually saw combat! He also watched as his buddies were killed right in front of him! Kerry is the better canidate!
btw I heard that today theres a book coming out that says Bush was doing drugs while his father was in office! When you think about everything he's done during his presidency it's makes sense that he'd be high!
i don't understand why you guys keep arguing about the miltary resume of Bush and Kerry. what does it have to do with their qualities as a politician ??? the fact that Kerry was a grunt in Vietnam doesn't necessarily make him a better military leader (let alone politician), and even if someone found out that Bush was a war hero (most unprobably!!!) it wouldn't change the fact that he's a horrible diplomat. also, to experience a war can change you for the better, but also for the worse !!! and Vietnam was 30 years ago.
i'm sure both candidates have changed a lot since then !!! so maybe one of them was a hero at that time, but what about today ?!?
so what's the point discussing their war experiences, and wheter they were heros or not ?! frankly i think this is just another media farce. a diversion which prevents people from asking the really important questions about a presidential candidate.
and one more thing: a president can never be a hero. from the moment he moves into the white house he's the most protected person in the world, and being a hero means helping others despite the dangers threatening your own life. see what i mean ?
i'm sure both candidates have changed a lot since then !!! so maybe one of them was a hero at that time, but what about today ?!?
so what's the point discussing their war experiences, and wheter they were heros or not ?! frankly i think this is just another media farce. a diversion which prevents people from asking the really important questions about a presidential candidate.
and one more thing: a president can never be a hero. from the moment he moves into the white house he's the most protected person in the world, and being a hero means helping others despite the dangers threatening your own life. see what i mean ?
member5726
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LetoII said:
I could'nt agree more ! :thumbsup:
Brino said:1) Typical! More lies from a lying liar! Do you really want to know what I'm for and against georges!? Ok here it is:
For:
Abortion
Higher taxation (of the rich)
The Military and Police
Free Healthcare
Legalization of Marijuana
Gay Marriage
Capital Punishment
Undecided:
Affirmative Action
Against:
Gun Rights (to an extent)
Exporting Jobs
Large Salaries for CEOs
Higher taxation (of the poor)
Well there you have it, that's basically what I'm for and against!
It's funny that I noticed you put Higher Spending under something that democrats are for but the current administration appears to be for it as well seeing as theyve spent more than any other previous administration! :rofl:
2) Your changing the subject again, but you go ahead and do that since you obviously cant defened what Bush did (or should I say didnt) do during the war! Bush never fought in Vietnam so it's pointless to refer to pilots who died there! The fact of the matter is that Bush never left the continental United States and never saw combat. His job was to fly a plane which wasnt that dangerous of a job and there are questions as to whether he even fulfilled his duties! Kerry on the other hand volunteered for Vietnam and actually saw combat! He also watched as his buddies were killed right in front of him! Kerry is the better canidate!
btw I heard that today theres a book coming out that says Bush was doing drugs while his father was in office! When you think about everything he's done during his presidency it's makes sense that he'd be high!
I was always against legalization marijuana.Drugs are drugs.Too much teenagers are taking this shit and then are sick and it costs too much to the healthcare system.Best thing to do is to send the drug dealers to jail for Lifetime.People don't want to have to pay health care for some drugged fools.
Free healthcare, why should people pay for other people who only take advantage of the system and who are not working and not contributing to the economic health of the country?
About gun rights, sorry but it is the 2nd amendment the right to bear and own arms.Glad that the 1994clinton aw ban ended. I don't see the problem of people owning guns.
About higher taxation of the rich, just because someone succes better than you in his life that you must tax him higher in order to take advantage of his money? If a person succeeds better than you it is his business and his money not yours.People made studies and busted their @sses to have a situation they don't want to pay for other lazy people i understand that.
Flying an f102 was like flying in a bomb you never know what could happen.
I would like to see flying an f102 .All pilots who flew the f102 said it was like flying on a coffin.
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georges said:
Well, I couldnt disagree with you more!
Legalization of Marijuana: Keep in mind that I'm not saying any other drugs should be legalized. Marijuana isnt as dangerous as Alcohol or Tobacco so why should those be legal and not Marijuana!?
Free Healthcare: Because their human beings! Have you ever heard of basic human rights georges!? Stop thinking about your pocketbook and start thinking about other people! How would you like it if you were one of those people and you couldnt pay for the basic medications you need! How would you like it if you needed an operation to save your life but you didnt have the money to pay for one!?
Gun Rights: The ban that ended was a ban against assault weapons! There is no need for people to own a weapon that can shoot 300 bullets a minute! If you want to own a handgun or rifle for hunting or self defense then fine I'll support your right to own a handgun but there is no need for the average person to own an assault weapon!
Higher taxation (of the rich): They owe their success to the country that gave them the opportunity to be successful! They owe alot of their money to taxbreaks that the government gave them! The average Ceo makes 3000 times that of their average worker and yet the worker is the one that has to pay higher taxes!? Wheres the logic in that!? Who's more lazy, the workers who work their ass off in the plant for a lousy buck or the Ceo who sits behind a desk all day and gets paid Billions!? The workers work hard for their money so why should they be the ones that have to spend the little amount of money they do have on taxes when the CEOs have money to spare!?
That still doesnt mean that it was more dangerous than fighting in Vietnam!
member5726
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People are stupid, if they really care about Kerry and what he have done some forty years ago... HELLO wake up and smell the coffee, talk about the real stuff... oh yeah right, Bush haven't done anything good lately, so just spit on the other guy, that's it...
Well, you know what, Bush is a liart too, every politician lie, so stop bringing that excuse, tell us exactly why you dont like Kerry.
Well, you know what, Bush is a liart too, every politician lie, so stop bringing that excuse, tell us exactly why you dont like Kerry.
Brino said:
Marijuana is dangerous because it affects brain cells.Not many people want to pay for some drugged fools in order to get them in good health.
Socialized health care means paying for the other, it is no and no:nono: Will the other pay for me when i need it ? Hellfuck no.In France, i pay for my own head and i get a big part of the amount i spent for all what concerns visit to the doc, medicaments or whatever related to health reimbursed.It is my money and i busted my @ss for earning it so why should i pay for the others?
Guns rights.Are my family members in the us are members of the nra. Clinton aw ban thankfully expires. THe police will not always be there to protect you.The main problems comes from illegal owned weapons often baught by ghetto guys, bullies, scumbags and drug dealers.I don't see a problem of owning legally a galil or an m16 as defense weapons.Plus people who own them legally often shoot at range with them.Forbidding people to buy aw and shooting them will not solve the problem.
Taxation. Some people have talents are actors, other create their own firms, other make high studies in order to siucced well after.People busted their asses hard for having this situation.
If some people are dunces at school, then it is not my fucking problem.It is either they are lazy or either they are unable for higher studies. Some people who aren't ceos, succeed well like mechanics, car dealers,plumers, electricians, policemen, military and other administrative jobs.
Sorry for the off topic.There were a lot of dead among the usaf, usnavy and usmc pilots in vietnam.
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georges said:
Dont you get it! They believe he's dishonest because you keep lying in saying that he's dishonest when he's not! You do that all the time, You did it with McCain, you did it with Clinton, You did it with everybody you ran against because you had nothing else to run on! It's bullshit!
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