FreeOnes Board Voting Bloc

[FlyingWallaby]

It seems that this thread has gotten off track, so please allow me to clarify my meaning/intention and bring the thread back to certain central points/messages.

1. I realize that FreeOnes isn't only this board, but it must also be recognized that this board is an integral part of FreeOnes. Are there going to be votes stemming from links on Twitter and Facebook and other social media outlets? Yes, of course there are; however, it seems that we are reaching a tipping point: the people of FreeOnes, who post, interact, and spend time here are relegated to irrelevancy. We're closing in on a point where, in order to win, a contestant doesn't need to spend any time actually online in the FreeOnes site or message boards. Personally, I do not think that it is fair or right for someone to carry the title or the prize money for being Miss FreeOnes when a more applicable title could possibly be Miss FreeOnes via Social Media.

2. This is not about bashing any OCSM or spreading any sort of negativity, this is about steering the contest back to its roots.

3. What I am proposing is, if, at the end of Round 2, it is beginning to look like the contest front-runners are contestants whom have, for lack of better terms, forsaken or ignored the FreeOnes community (hint: this doesn't mean just having a profile and links on the website, it means actual participation), we board members should form a voting bloc to forward a contestant who does embody the qualities that we want to see in a Miss FreeOnes.

4. Here's what I'm thinking: We all get 3 votes in the final round. 2 votes can go to whomever we individually choose, and 1 vote could go to a unified contestant. Several days before the end of Round 2, we could meet, discuss, and amicably decide on a unified contestant to support. (I'm a little apprehensive about including OSCMs in the discussion, because I don't want anyone to feel slighted, be offended, or leave with hurt feelings.)

5. Why would anyone here vote for a unified candidate? Given, we all have our favourite contestants that we want to do well. Beyond our individual choices though, I would estimate that the majority of us would rather have a Miss FreeOnes winner that was an active, participating member as opposed to a winner who is either distant or only here for the duration of the contest.


This is what I think, this is how I feel, this is what I am proposing, and this is why I started this thread.


:thumbsup:
- The Flying Wallaby

 

[larss]

Thank you for that clarification. The only problem that I can foresee will be the choice of our unified contestant. Have you any thoughts as to how we can choose, and who is in the running?

 

[jitna]

we could always do it democratically, nominations and then a vote

or we could have a big argument and whoevers left posting (after all reasonable people have been scared away) gets to decide

 

[Shifty]

Mr. Wallaby, your intentions are admirable however more often than not threads such as this one are a magnet for conflict and controversy ...

 

[FlyingWallaby]

we could always do it democratically, nominations and then a vote

or we could have a big argument and whoevers left posting (after all reasonable people have been scared away) gets to decide

That's admirable Jitna....that's the way John Wayne would do it. :violent:


I've got another idea though...

 

[jitna]

its never a bad idea to follow the duke

 

[FlyingWallaby]

its never a bad idea to follow the duke

NEVER EVER! :hatsoff:

 

[Patrick_S]

The only category i have any interest in voting in at all is the best OSCM category. That´s the one categoty that´s supposed to not just be a popularity contest, but a category for those who actually take the time to post (something else than just spam for their sites) on this board...and Sophie Dee (who´s got 55 posts in three years) is currently in third place. This is exactly what i said would happen when they proposed all these extra categories. All these new categories are completely pointless because most poeple will just vote for their favourite in every category they´re entered in, no matter what the category is supposed to really be about.

 

[larss]

The only category i have any interest in voting in at all is the best OSCM category. That´s the one categoty that´s supposed to not just be a popularity contest, but a category for those who actually take the time to post (something else than just spam for their sites) on this board...and Sophie Dee (who´s got 55 posts in three years) is currently in third place. This is exactly what i said would happen when they proposed all these extra categories. All these new categories are completely pointless because most poeple will just vote for their favourite in every category they´re entered in, no matter what the category is supposed to really be about.

FYI 33 of those were today!

 

[Hot Mega]

FYI 33 of those were today!

On some level we still have to recognize the common sense that this at bottom will boil down to popularity.

Therefore if any girl qualifies for the criteria (even if barely) to be in a category...how can the results be disputed even the ones that seem grossly unfair?

People enter contests primarily to win them..so if they qualify they should have the right to win it just as any other qualified contestant if they can 'legally' muster the support.

The simple reality a girl like Sophie Dee for example has tons of followers all over the world...She has countless titles to her credit on IAFD.com whereas some of the girls in (or out of) the contest have exactly 0. So even in a category like Best OCSM...if she's in it she will do well because her fans (where ever they come from) are going to logically vote for her where they see her name.

Now maybe FOs could further tweak as I'm sure they will the methodology but I don't think they're trying to exclude girls with huge followings like Sophie Dee.

The way to make it fairer is to not limit the girls but maybe limit the voters in that category to some criteria more consistent with it's intent.:2 cents:

Sorry FW....back to the point of the thread...

 

[Spleen]

This contest was better when it was unofficial and run by members on the board.

 

[larss]

I had the thought that, with categories, it may be better to limit the entrants to the main competition and to, say, 2 categories of THEIR choice. To be entered into a category they would have to request it, having met the criteria of that category.
More tweaks in Miss FO's 2012, and the competition can only improve.

 

[GregCentauro]

We should all vote for Phil Collins.

 

[Hot Mega]

I had the thought that, with categories, it may be better to limit the entrants to the main competition and to, say, 2 categories of THEIR choice. To be entered into a category they would have to request it, having met the criteria of that category.
More tweaks in Miss FO's 2012, and the competition can only improve.

More prizes, money, sponsorships and girls will ensure this....again, I don't think it's a very good idea to be limiting the entrants unless they simply don't qualify for a category.

Who is the Best OCSM to the average voter? Most likely the girl they like the most because these things still are popularity contests.

If you want to make the results of that particular category more justifiable the only way I see to do it is the limit the "voting bloc" tongue:Flying W) to those with the most credibility to vote in the category. Probably would be the easiest way too.

I'll bet if FOs increase the prize money in the category they would get more OCSM participation (post counts) as well.

We should all vote for Phil Collins.

What's his post count?

 

[Patrick_S]

Who is the Best OCSM to the average voter? Most likely the girl they like the most because these things still are popularity contests.

Since most voters have probably never even visited the forum they couldn´t possibly know who the best OSCM is so in that category should only forum members be allowed to vote.

In my world is the best OSCM someone who actually have a brain and an opinion in real subjects and not someone who is just here to promote herself and only posts in threads about herself.

 

[Hot Mega]

Since most voters have probably never even visited the forum they couldn´t possibly know who the best OSCM is so in that category should only forum members be allowed to vote.

We're saying some of the same things. However, I think you'd have to make the voting criteria a little stronger than just board member as that would have the same flaw as merely being an OCSM. Since even a board member could not post here enough to vote credibly.:2 cents:

In my world is the best OSCM someone who actually have a brain and an opinion in real subjects and not someone who is just here to promote herself and only posts in threads about herself.

I think most people would agree that any Miss FOs category prize should go to the girl who has the best association to the crown and category they hope to win.

So I suppose according to the thread...maybe the voting bloc next time around would be limited in the Best OCSM to members of the board with a certain level of activity..maybe even make the rep accrued here actually stand for something.:dunno:

I've even suggested some status levels afforded to OCSMs who are more active here...and maybe that might allow FOs to handicap the next contest in favor of defaulting them some number of automatic votes ahead of those who are less active or something.

There are ways to make it more competitive and consistent and still have FOs accomplish their goals in having the contest.

I know F Wallaby...I will repost this in the politics of MFOs contest or something too.

 

[jitna]

Since most voters have probably never even visited the forum they couldn´t possibly know who the best OSCM is so in that category should only forum members be allowed to vote.

In my world is the best OSCM someone who actually have a brain and an opinion in real subjects and not someone who is just here to promote herself and only posts in threads about herself.

so we should have an interview portion of the competition?

 

[FlyingWallaby]

Thank you for that clarification. The only problem that I can foresee will be the choice of our unified contestant. Have you any thoughts as to how we can choose, and who is in the running?

I've spent a few days thinking on this, and here's what I've come up with:

First, we need to determine who has been present, posting and interacting on the board before and during the contest. Since larss has already mostly done this with his posting chart/table, it should be fairly easy to determine.

We have a choice between a maximum of 5 contestants. We could have either the 3 highest ranking (in the contest, about midway through Round 2) and 2 possible write-ins.... or the 2 highest ranking, the contestant who has done the most posting and interaction during the contest (if she isn't one of the 2 or 3 highest ranking), and 2 write-ins.

The write-ins must be included in order to allow board members to have their fair say and a change to explain why they think a certain contestant who isn't in the top 3 of our list is worth backing. After a couple of days for board members to post their thoughts and suggestions, the write-in votes are counted. Next, we have an overall vote for all board members to decide whom among the 5 contestants will receive our full backing.

I think that, for the final vote as well as the time for suggestions, neither should be over 2 days in length, due to the fact that we are playing against time and, the longer the process, the greater the chance of any sort of tampering or rigging, such as multiple profiles per person, appeals via twitter, etc.

This process seems to combine the best aspects of a democratic vote, previous performance, as well as a mathematical favourite in order to provide us with a viable candidate that we can all support for Miss FreeOnes.

 

[Icewater Jones]

Icewater Jones is now officially getting pretty damn sick of seeing names of chicks that have nothing to do with FO eleven months out of the year. I don't know what can be done about this, but something needs to be done. Can we not get a minimum post requirement for this or something? Best newcomer is understandable, but Miss FreeOnes should have a minimum post requirement... Period

How can you win a contest representing something that you don't take part in?






I'm proposing a 750 post count minimum to qualify for both Miss FreeOnes and Best OSCM. These two categories are strictly exclusive to this site and should be exclusive to those who participate regularly.

 

[larss]

I'm proposing a 750 post count minimum to qualify for both Miss FreeOnes and Best OSCM. These two categories are strictly exclusive to this site and should be exclusive to those who participate regularly.

750 would limit us to just 17 entrants.
500 to 31 entrants.
200 to 48 entrants.

as it stands.

It may be better to look at the post per day figures to see who contributes regularly.