Death Penalty

[Supafly]

A bit offtopic:

Good to see that there is always someone doing his best to become the next offical Village Idiot

Not pointing fingers, you know who I am talking 'bout :hatsoff:

 

[Sam Fisher]

I appreciate the dedication Jack but, as I remarked previously, there are already an abundance of threads on this topic. That's what the "search" function is for (upper right-hand section of your screen). You need to learn how to use it....it is designed to avoid the posting of redundant threads like this one. I contributed my views to a very significant degree in those threads so if you want to know what my thoughts and reasoning on the subject are, please do a search and I assure you that you'll find an abundance of material in that regard.

Alternatively, if you'd care to discuss the subject with me one-on-one, feel free to send me a private message and I promise I'll reply. However, I'm not in favor of wasting any more of Freeones' bandwidth on an extremely redundant thread.

Thanks Jagger.. I appreciate it. :hatsoff:

 

[tartanterrier]

They should keep it and we should have it in the UK too :clap:

 

[Mayhem]

Back to the topic at hand, I used to be staunchly for the death penalty, now I'm against it. Without puffing myself up, I've seen my share of death, and we have all seen enough of it on the evening news. I've reached the point in my own intellect where I feel that enough is enough. The "few" people that get executed every year are not making this world any safer and capitol punishment is not a deterrent in any sense of the word. Death, death, death. My government does not need to add to the totals. Lock 'em up, no basketball, no weight bench, no cigarettes. Let whatever evil fucker it is sit in a box for the rest of his life.

 

[Sam Fisher]

The "few" people that get executed every year are not making this world any safer and capitol punishment is not a deterrent in any sense of the word. Death, death, death. My government does not need to add to the totals. Lock 'em up, no basketball, no weight bench, no cigarettes. Let whatever evil fucker it is sit in a box for the rest of his life.

Best comment yet. So much so, that I too have had a change of heart. Why? Partly what Mayhem said and, the simple fact that when they are put to death, it's so sickeningly painless, compared to how the victim of the crime was killed.

I also didn't want Casey Anthony to get the death penalty. That would have been to easy on her. I was hoping she would have gotten life in prison so that she would have to remember her daughter's birthday every year it came around.

I am happy with getting rid of the death penalty if:

1. They go back to hard labor.. work those fuckers like they did in Cool Hand Luke. Hard labor from sun up to sun down.

2. No smokes

3. No weight benches

4. No basketball

5. No saggy fucking clothes, no hair do's, etc.

6. No congical visits.

7. No television

 

[Facetious]

The government executed Timothy Mcveigh and I don't recall there being any candlelight vigils. :dunno:

Oh, that's right, Mcveigh was a real REAL bad guy, therefore, we can easily make an exception for the termination of his life.

 

[Will E Worm]

They should keep it and we should have it in the UK too :clap:

Yes :clap:

The government executed Timothy Mcveigh and I don't recall there being any candlelight vigils. :dunno:

Oh, that's right, Mcveigh was a real REAL bad guy, therefore, we can easily make an exception for the termination of his life.

I know. People are hypocrites.

Also, when they supposedly executed him they broke all types of laws and people who observed the "execution" said he was still breathing when he was pronounced dead.

Another thing. There were other people involved and one of them was an informant.
Mcveigh was just a scapegoat.

 

[Shifty]

I am opposed.

 

[Will E Worm]

I am opposed.

... to Sanity. :tongue:

 

[Shifty]

... to sanity. :tongue:

Opposed to one human being taking the life of another human being for any reason.

... and please don't ask me "Oh yeah ??? ??? ??? Well, what would you do if someone killed your brother. Wouldn't you want to kill them ??? ??? " etc.

 

[Will E Worm]

Opposed to one human being taking the life of another human being for any reason.

... and please don't ask me "Oh yeah ??? ??? ??? Well, what would you do if someone killed your brother. Wouldn't you want to kill them ??? ??? " etc.

I still say sanity. Some people have to be put to death in the best interest of a sane society.

 

[Shifty]

I still say Sanity. Some people have to be put to death in the best interest of a sane society.

Fair enough. You're sane.

I'm civilized.

 

[Will E Worm]

Fair enough. You're sane.

I'm civilized.

You no. :tongue:

You're too liberal. Liberalism brings the downfall of civilizations.

 

[Shifty]

You no. :tongue:

You're too liberal. Liberalism brings the downfall of civilizations.

Actually, I'm not liberal! I don't believe in orchestrated, planned and deliberate murder that is grounded purely in vengeance and retribution.

It's draconian and barbaric Will - plain and simple. It's not a question of politics, but of morality.

 

[Will E Worm]

Actually, I'm not liberal! I don't believe in orchestrated, planned and deliberate murder that is grounded purely in vengeance and retribution.

It's draconian and barbaric Will - plain and simple. And altogether apolitical; you used the term 'sane'. Sanity and politics ... they don't really belong together, do they?

It's about justice. We can agree to disagree.

With the right people Sanity and politics would work. Term limits could help.

 

[Mayhem]

I still say sanity. Some people have to be put to death in the best interest of a sane society.

Here is a list of your "sane" countries.

Death Penalty Permitted

•Afghanistan
•Antigua and Barbuda
•Bahamas
•Bahrain
•Bangladesh
•Barbados
•Belarus
•Belize
•Botswana
•Chad
•China (People's Republic)
•Comoros
•Congo (Democratic Republic)
•Cuba
•Dominica
•Egypt
•Equatorial Guinea
•Ethiopia
•Guinea
•Guyana
•India
•Indonesia
•Iran
•Iraq
•Jamaica
•Japan
•Jordan
•Kuwait
•Lebanon

•Lesotho
•Libya
•Malaysia
•Mongolia
•Nigeria
•North Korea
•Oman
•Pakistan
•Palestinian Authority
•Qatar
•St. Kitts and Nevis
•St. Lucia
•St. Vincent and the Grenadines
•Saudi Arabia
•Sierra Leone
•Singapore
•Somalia
•Sudan
•Syria
•Taiwan
•Thailand
•Trinidad and Tobago
•Uganda
•United Arab Emirates
•United States
•Vietnam
•Yemen
•Zimbabwe

Yup, "sane" is how I'd describe these countries.

 

[Shifty]

It's about justice. We can agree to disagree.

With the right people sanity and politics would work. Term limits could help.

Of course we can agree to disagree Will.

In my mind, the problem with 'justice' is that it is too often determined using emotion and/or ideology vs. objectivity and logic.

 

[Will E Worm]

Here is a list of your "sane" countries.

Death Penalty Permitted

Yup, "sane" is how I'd describe these countries.

Those countries have some things correct.

Of course we can agree to disagree Will.

In my mind, the problem with 'justice' is that it is too often determined using emotion and/or ideology vs. objectivity and logic.

Okay, then.

I agree with everything should be determined without an overly emotional basis.
All the evidence should be looked at then punishment determined.

 

[Ray Ecks]

Keep it, but only use it in certain cases.

 

[SpexyAshleigh]

If prison wasn't so cushy, then I'd say do away with it and let the assholes suffer in jail. But the prison systems give FAR too many rights and luxuries to criminals who shouldn't have any. Save our tax dollars and do away with beds, tv's, three square meals, fancy exercise equipment etc and actually make them suffer. But since life in prison really isn't THAT torturous, I'm for the death penalty in some cases.