Convicted criminal President Donald Trump's Legacy

[Connor Macleod]

Regardless of one's feelings on President Trump, he is divisive and chaos surrounds him.
I can only assume the the passions of love and hate circle him so much that it drowns out the logic that the Republicans, the U.S., and the world would be better if we just moved on from him. Perhaps showing my naivete and ignorance.

Trump has been called many things, ego-maniac, and narcissist being the most often mentioned. Many people don't realize what "narcissist" actually means. One famous narcissist comes to mind, Benito Mussolini. My opinion - Trump is the purest definition of a narcissist.

So, how did he become president?

It started with the worst president in history, George Walker Bush, followed by the most irrelevant president is history, Obama. After 16 years of suffering, the country was screaming for new ideas, but we were left with only 3 viable candidates, Trump / Sanders / Clinton. In other words, our choices were a major asshole, a socialist, or a criminal.

 

[Tokaji]

Trump has been called many things, ego-maniac, and narcissist being the most often mentioned. Many people don't realize what "narcissist" actually means. One famous narcissist comes to mind, Benito Mussolini. My opinion - Trump is the purest definition of a narcissist.

So, how did he become president?

It started with the worst president in history, George Walker Bush, followed by the most irrelevant president is history, Obama. After 16 years of suffering, the country was screaming for new ideas, but we were left with only 3 viable candidates, Trump / Sanders / Clinton. In other words, our choices were a major asshole, a socialist, or a criminal.

Thank you for that post. Colorful and refreshingly direct.

" In other words, our choices were a major asshole, a socialist, or a criminal." I think we're finding that throughout the world.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

Trump has been called many things, ego-maniac, and narcissist being the most often mentioned. Many people don't realize what "narcissist" actually means. One famous narcissist comes to mind, Benito Mussolini. My opinion - Trump is the purest definition of a narcissist.

So, how did he become president?

It started with the worst president in history, George Walker Bush, followed by the most irrelevant president is history, Obama. After 16 years of suffering, the country was screaming for new ideas, but we were left with only 3 viable candidates, Trump / Sanders / Clinton. In other words, our choices were a major asshole, a socialist, or a criminal.

I didn't vote for Trump, I voted against Clinton. You are 110% correct, and it saddens me, that I honestly can't remember the last time I voted for someone I wanted in office, as opposed to voting to block who I didn't. It also saddens me, that through all of this, a 3rd party candidate wasn't even able to make a showing, in a time when almost everyone, was annoyed, disgusted, or fed up.

 

[gmase]

I like how Trump is labeled a major asshole and Clinton is labeled a criminal. Bernie would proudly accept the Socialist label. Why isn’t Trump labeled a criminal as well - based on what we knew in 2016?

Fraud is a crime. Trump, in 2016, paid to settle a fraud case against Trump University.

I voted for neither major-party candidate in 2016. Both were equally unappealing at the time. In retrospect, I was wrong to abstain. Colorado went for Clinton without my contribution.

 

[Connor Macleod]

I didn't vote for Trump, I voted against Clinton. You are 110% correct, and it saddens me, that I honestly can't remember the last time I voted for someone I wanted in office, as opposed to voting to block who I didn't. It also saddens me, that through all of this, a 3rd party candidate wasn't even able to make a showing, in a time when almost everyone, was annoyed, disgusted, or fed up.

Yes, the 2016 election wasn't about the best candidate, but rather the lesser of two evils.

I like how Trump is labeled a major asshole and Clinton is labeled a criminal. Bernie would proudly accept the Socialist label. Why isn’t Trump labeled a criminal as well - based on what we knew in 2016?

Fraud is a crime. Trump, in 2016, paid to settle a fraud case against Trump University.

I voted for neither major-party candidate in 2016. Both were equally unappealing at the time. In retrospect, I was wrong to abstain. Colorado went for Clinton without my contribution.

In 2016, Democratic party officials conspired to sabotage the Sanders campaign, because they thought he could not beat Trump. Why weren't they arrested?

Years ago, Jesse Ventura did an interview in which he advocated that all political parties should be outlawed and everyone should run as an independent. When I first read that, I thought he was insanely STUPID, but it didn't take long for me to realize that it actually makes sense. If that were the case, no one would be able to hide behind a political army and avoid prosecution for wrongdoing. Obviously, it will never happen, but we can dream.

 

[gmase]

In 2016, Democratic party officials conspired to sabotage the Sanders campaign, because they thought he could not beat Trump. Why weren't they arrested?

Hillary’s status wasn’t my point. You chose the criminal label for her, but not Trump.

Years ago, Jesse Ventura did an interview in which he advocated that all political parties should be outlawed and everyone should run as an independent. When I first read that, I thought he was insanely STUPID, but it didn't take long for me to realize that it actually makes sense. If that were the case, no one would be able to hide behind a political army and avoid prosecution for wrongdoing. Obviously, it will never happen, but we can dream.

If only someone before Jesse warned us about factions and their evils … oh wait, we ignored their warnings. And we ended up here.

The issue is even nonpartisan elections (e.g., school boards) are being politicized. Since Jesse’s comment it has only gotten worse. Nixon fell because his own party saw the futility of defending him. It wouldn’t happen today.

 

[Connor Macleod]

Hillary’s status wasn’t my point. You chose the criminal label for her, but not Trump.


If only someone before Jesse warned us about factions and their evils … oh wait, we ignored their warnings. And we ended up here.

The issue is even nonpartisan elections (e.g., school boards) are being politicized. Since Jesse’s comment it has only gotten worse. Nixon fell because his own party saw the futility of defending him. It wouldn’t happen today.

That's true, but it started well before today. The democrats defended Bill Clinton even though they knew he was lying. I voted against Bill Clinton, but I'll admit he was a good president - until the adultery - and perjury before congress paved the way for that god-awful GW Bush to take the White House.

Trump's character is certainly rotten to the core, but after the past 16 months, I don't see how anyone can say we're better off with Biden.

What makes no sense to me is why the Republicans are "ALL IN" on Trump. Personally, I think the party should adopt a business-like strategy. Hire a head-hunter to search the political landscape for a "CEO" to head the Republican party. And, the Democrats should do the same.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Trump and his mafia cronies used/use subliminal audio messages embedded into the music played at Trumps' rallies to program people to vote for him, send him money, and buy his made-in-China merch. That's why most Trumptards blindly support ahole Trump, regardless of all his corruption and crimes. Subliminal audio messages programming people to riot and attack the Capitol were probably used at the Jan 6, 2021 rally before the riot at the Capitol and attempted coup.

The only things most people expect from an online discussion forum are honest opinions without malice.

Every day is a new day and it's definitely good news you letting us know you're turning over a new leaf.

 

[tvstrip]

Every day is a new day and it's definitely good news you letting us know you're turning over a new leaf.

I just KNOW this was on your mind when you posted this:

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

I just KNOW this was on your mind when you posted this:

Be nice if the Power Of Positivity coulda kept Big E from breaking his neck.

Poor guy. Check this out.

 

[tvstrip]

Years ago, Jesse Ventura did an interview in which he advocated that all political parties should be outlawed and everyone should run as an independent. When I first read that, I thought he was insanely STUPID, but it didn't take long for me to realize that it actually makes sense. If that were the case, no one would be able to hide behind a political army and avoid prosecution for wrongdoing.

This is especially true for any country using the British MP system where you vote for your local representative, and the leader of the party that wins the most ridings (districts) is the winner. What happens if the local representative is a dickhead, but you like the party/leader? Or you hate the party leader, but the local rep is a really good person? Not having to balance between the local candidate & the party leader would be nice.

 

[tvstrip]

Be nice if the Power Of Positivity coulda kept Big E from breaking his neck.

Poor guy. Check this out.

Power of positivity kept him alive and out of the ICU. Heck, he BROKE HIS FREAKIN' NECK, and DIDN'T require surgery.
If that don't make you a believer, I don't know what would...

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Power of positivity kept him alive and out of the ICU. Heck, he BROKE HIS FREAKIN' NECK, and DIDN'T require surgery.
If that don't make you a believer, I don't know what would...

Good luck to Big E’s recovery. He’s a nice guy. Xavier better not get hurt again or Kofi will be out there throwing pancakes around by himself.

 

[tvstrip]

Good luck to Big E’s recovery. He’s a nice guy. Xavier better not get hurt again or Kofi will be out there throwing pancakes around by himself.

If ND breaks up, I'm actually hoping Kofi & Reggie will team up. That would be an exciting tag team I'd be rooting for.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

If ND breaks up, I'm actually hoping Kofi & Reggie will team up. That would be an exciting tag team I'd be rooting for.

Add Dana Brooke and dress her up like a cheerleader.

 

[xfire]

Some QuackAnons believe that Trump was Q, but they're barking up the wrong trees.

 

[xfire]

 

[gmase]

Trump's legacy (with a big assist from Mitch in 2016):
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473

Alito's first draft:
“Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division.”

Whether the cases were right or wrong I can't say, but Alito is correct when he says Roe v Wade did not settle the abortion debate.

 

[xfire]

Trump's legacy (with a big assist from Mitch in 2016):
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473

Alito's first draft:
“Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. Its reasoning was exceptionally weak, and the decision has had damaging consequences. And far from bringing about a national settlement of the abortion issue, Roe and Casey have enflamed debate and deepened division.”

Whether the cases were right or wrong I can't say, but Alito is correct when he says Roe v Wade did not settle the abortion debate.

Liberals deserve this, it could have been prevented in 2016.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

I didn't see this, when I posted something in the Biden thread, but this is bad, really bad. This is going to boil over into some sort of violence, lets face it, men aren't the only ones who can get hot headed, and snap.

It potentially can also destroy a lot of, if not most republicans election results in the mid-terms. The Country doesn't need this, especially the women. This has been settled, long ago, and should be left alone. No one says you have to get one, or even like the thought of it, but it is the law, and it had it's turn to be judged by the high court, leave it alone.

Perhaps biden should be using his executive powers on this issue, instead of trying to take rights away.