A Senseless War Begins Its 10th Year

[~~whimsy~~]

Hey, everyone...
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Honestly, enough fucking fighting about the same shit.

:thinks profoundly for a minute:

This post is really, really...







FUCK THAT! SHOVE THAT LIGHT BULB UP YOUR ASS AND I HOPE IT BREAKS! ASSHOLE! DON'T BRING YOUR PREACHY LIGHT BULB IN HERE AND ALLOW IT TO TELL US LIGHTEN UP, BITCH! I'LL FUCK YOU UP IF YOU EVER DO THIS AGAIN!

Got it?

:hatsoff:

 

[meesterperfect]

after seeing this I never gave Moore the credit or benefit of the doubt over anything.

i will post in real time:
9:58 pm-
holy cow! A mikey moore charlston heston together video?
this ought to be good. i hope charlie teaches him a lesson or 3.

10:00 pm - play video. oh boy i'm phsyced!

10:10 pm- what an asshole.
strongly implying that somehow its the NRA's fault that people kill each other.
trying to give charles the guilt trip.

the NRA strongly advocates responsible, safe gun ownership.
apparently if a 6 year old got to a loaded handgun somebody was very irresponsible.

no, mikeys view and solution on the crime problem is the equivelent of treating dandruff by decapitation.
what a narrow minded fool he is.

 

[HELLRAISER]

Since Fox Viewers here are doing a failed smear campaign against Michael Moore by personally attacking him instead of debunking the importance of his message, I highly recommend those of you who can clearly see right the through the TeaBaggers cockamamie shenanigans here, to read his great books and watch both his greatest films: "Fahrenheit 9/11" and "Sicko" if you haven't already

 

[Trident1]

What a crock of shit....Been reading such dung for the past 10 years....Funny how a supposed defeated force can organize itself enough to fuck with supply convoys.

PS> The west will be leaving this theatre with its legs tucked between its legs.....Its only a question of "when"....Then years later historians debunk the whole thing and find out what it was really about.....Oil? Poppy fields? Population control? ectera ectera. Oh yea and the ruskies can say "I told you"

Sorry you think so. The Tali are getting creamed it seems. I know everyone thought it was supposed to be the opposite but hey when you got the smelly beardies by the short and curlies you don't ask why.

Oh and btw the tanker trucks were torched in Pakistan not Afghanistan. The ISI is watching it's own proxy army getting wiped out. I think they're looking for a few smelly men for new recruits. Why don't you apply?

 

[sporty_carr]

Michael Moore is the liberal equivalent of Fox News.












/thread

 

[roronoa3000]

A used douche bag > Micheal Moore > George Bush >A bloody tampon > Fox News > The French

I forgot Sarah Palin. :eek: She can go after the french, I guess.

 

[HELLRAISER]

Al Jazeera News, CSPAN, especially The Onion, etc. put Fox News to shame

 

[vodkazvictim]

We did. We saved your butts.:hatsoff:


Go ahead vodka see if you can take China all by yourself. We'll stay by the phone.

You know what? I'm sorry, you're right. Why should I listen to the stories of the old European men who fought in the war when I could instead believe american propoganda. Why listen to the old men who said he fell asleep standing up in the snow when on guard duty when according to the americans it was THEM who got the enigma machine off the German sub.

Obviously you americans are an innately superior race to us Europeans, because we didn't fight a bit in the war. RAF Mosquitos didn't regularily fly so low at night that they came home with foliage in their undercarriages, their attacks coining the term "Mosquito shrack" (Mosquito fear).

Polish airmen didn't flee to the R.A.F. to continue the fight after their country had been blitzkrieged because it adopted information centric tactics without having strong, mobile armour to back them up (weird - sounds like the system the us operates today, but obviously it can't be because you americans are just innately better).

The countries who were Blitzkrieged (The French et al) did not operate resistance fighters against the Germans.

The Swiss did not shoot down German aircraft that strayed into their territory.

Indians didn't march to war to fight for the Empire (possibly the best example of turkeys voting for Christmas until americans voted for Reagan and Bush).

The Soviet Union absolutely did not kill the largest number of Nazis in the world.

The British did not give the radar and jet engine tech they'd developed before the war was done to the americans, you of course invented this yourself. You were technological leaders for the duration of the war and after, which is why you didn't need to employ an old Nazi to head up Nasa when the Soviets had the great genius Korolev, father of modern rocketry.

No, European men hung around cafes sipping coffee, discussing whose handbag was prettiest and eyeing up the handsome Germans/americans in their uniforms.

But then again if you are so much better, how come the Germans were such a problem for you?

I mean you americans are so brilliant that you didn't fly bloody stupid daylight bombing raids resulting in massive casualties, right? During world war 1 you didn't completely disregard advice given to you and adopt tactics that had already failed, resulting in bloodshed, right?

You saved our "butts"? BULLSHIT, The word is arses, the Russians would've rolled over the Germans anyways and the only reason you helped is because you realised that if you didn't you'd face a united Europe under Fascism or Communism; a gun loaded with economic bullets.

As the current situation stands, Britain alone could defeat china simply by nuking the whole place, but us participation in a conventional war is preferable.
The world can take china out in a conventional manner without the us.
Incidently I love the way you act as though you yanks could take down china with one man, have we forgotten what happened to the american task force smith when they faced the chinese? I think we have....

Enjoy your private world! Never listen to anyone. Believe you're always correct. Forget that you were the last to enter the war. Remember the attack on your own soil as though it was far more heinous then occupation for years.

End of the discussion for me, you've entirely proved my point. Trident1 on the ignore list. wooooo!

I see why he did it, but I think I'll leave him off ignore and debunk his theories.

 

[emceeemcee]

More US bashing from the people who need us most.:clap:

ummm isn't your country the one begging other NATO members to send more soldiers to Afghanistan?

The Tali are getting creamed it seems.

what are you basing THAT on? certainly not the opinions of those running the war, that's for sure.

Sacked US General Stanley McChrystal issued a devastatingly critical assessment of the war against a "resilient and growing insurgency" just days before being forced out.

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Nato played down the chances of success. "I don't think anyone would say we're winning," said a Nato spokesman.

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General McChrystal said progress in the next six months was unlikely. He raised serious concerns over levels of security, violence, and corruption within the Afghan administration. Only five areas out of 116 assessed were classed as "secure" – the rest suffering various degrees of insecurity and more than 40 described as "dangerous" or "unsecure".

Just five areas out of 122 were classed as being under the "full authority" of the government – with governance rated as non-existent, dysfunctional or unproductive in 89 of the areas. Seven areas out of 120 rated for development were showing sustainable growth. In 48 areas, growth was either stalled or the population were at risk. Less than a third of the military and only 12 per cent of police forces were rated as "effective".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...t-post-mcchrystals-bleak-outlook-2011730.html

You really do live in your own bubble don't you Trident.

 

[vodkazvictim]

ummm isn't your country the one begging other NATO members to send more soldiers to Afghanistan?






what are you basing THAT on? certainly not the opinions of those running the war, that's for sure.




You really do live in your own bubble don't you Trident.

Thank you for that timely dose of reality.

 

[Moonchild22]

What a piss fest this is.

 

[Trident1]

ummm isn't your country the one begging other NATO members to send more soldiers to Afghanistan?






what are you basing THAT on? certainly not the opinions of those running the war, that's for sure.




You really do live in your own bubble don't you Trident.

http://www.slate.com/id/2270971/pagenum/all/#p2


No I don't live in a bubble. Yes the Tali are getting creamed. Yes the ISI is frantic that their Tali buddies are getting whipped now that we've changed from COIN to direct confrontation.
I'm sure you're disappointed your Tali friends are losing.



p.s. We aren't begging NATO allies.

 

[PlasmaTwa2]

ummm isn't your country the one begging other NATO members to send more soldiers to Afghanistan?

Being from a NATO country, I don't really think the Americans are begging us to stay. Sure, they've said "hey, we would really like you to stay" but they haven't begged in any sense of the word.

 

[PlumpRump]

You know what? I'm sorry, you're right. Why should I listen to the stories of the old European men who fought in the war when I could instead believe american propoganda. Why listen to the old men who said he fell asleep standing up in the snow when on guard duty when according to the americans it was THEM who got the enigma machine off the German sub.

Obviously you americans are an innately superior race to us Europeans, because we didn't fight a bit in the war. RAF Mosquitos didn't regularily fly so low at night that they came home with foliage in their undercarriages, their attacks coining the term "Mosquito shrack" (Mosquito fear).

Polish airmen didn't flee to the R.A.F. to continue the fight after their country had been blitzkrieged because it adopted information centric tactics without having strong, mobile armour to back them up (weird - sounds like the system the us operates today, but obviously it can't be because you americans are just innately better).

The countries who were Blitzkrieged (The French et al) did not operate resistance fighters against the Germans.

The Swiss did not shoot down German aircraft that strayed into their territory.

Indians didn't march to war to fight for the Empire (possibly the best example of turkeys voting for Christmas until americans voted for Reagan and Bush).

The Soviet Union absolutely did not kill the largest number of Nazis in the world.

The British did not give the radar and jet engine tech they'd developed before the war was done to the americans, you of course invented this yourself. You were technological leaders for the duration of the war and after, which is why you didn't need to employ an old Nazi to head up Nasa when the Soviets had the great genius Korolev, father of modern rocketry.

No, European men hung around cafes sipping coffee, discussing whose handbag was prettiest and eyeing up the handsome Germans/americans in their uniforms.

But then again if you are so much better, how come the Germans were such a problem for you?

I mean you americans are so brilliant that you didn't fly bloody stupid daylight bombing raids resulting in massive casualties, right? During world war 1 you didn't completely disregard advice given to you and adopt tactics that had already failed, resulting in bloodshed, right?

You saved our "butts"? BULLSHIT, The word is arses, the Russians would've rolled over the Germans anyways and the only reason you helped is because you realised that if you didn't you'd face a united Europe under Fascism or Communism; a gun loaded with economic bullets...

A large percentage of the achievements that you have listed here would have been completely impossible were it not for the more than $50 billion (Nearly $31.5 billion alone to the UK) in war materials (Including 50 USN destroyers, tanks, fighter aircraft and other motor vehicles sent to the UK) that the US supplied under the Lend-Lease Act. Several scholars cite, very frankly in fact, that the Lend-Lease Act was a critical factor in the eventual success of the Allies in World War II, particularly in the early years when the United States was not yet directly involved.

 

[maildude]

I find this interesting - You think the attack on September 11 demanded a war in both Iraq and Afghanistan?

Try reading my post AGAIN.

 

[vodkazvictim]

A large percentage of the achievements that you have listed here would have been completely impossible were it not for the more than $50 billion (Nearly $31.5 billion alone to the UK) in war materials (Including 50 USN destroyers, tanks, fighter aircraft and other motor vehicles sent to the UK) that the US supplied under the Lend-Lease Act. Several scholars cite, very frankly in fact, that the Lend-Lease Act was a critical factor in the eventual success of the Allies in World War II, particularly in the early years when the United States was not yet directly involved.

Bullshit. Carry on acting like you paid for the war to be won; remember that not every countru is willing to fight only for money.
Better yet, lets look at wars you've fought without assistance, lets start with Vietnam:
Oh wow, you lose, what a surprise!

 

[roronoa3000]

You guys still bitter about 1776?

 

[pool_hustler]

You saved our "butts"? BULLSHIT, The word is arses, the Russians would've rolled over the Germans anyways

Yeah it's rather telling that the first U.S. boots didn't touch down on Europe proper (Italy) until a full six months after Germany's crushing defeat at Stalingrad.

It's horrifying to imagine the massacre an invasion of France might have produced had the Soviets not been bleeding Hitler white on the Eastern front.

 

[Trident1]

Yeah it's rather telling that the first U.S. boots didn't touch down on Europe proper (Italy) until a full six months after Germany's crushing defeat at Stalingrad.

It's horrifying to imagine the massacre an invasion of France might have produced had the Soviets not been bleeding Hitler white on the Eastern front.

The Soviet contribution to Hitler's defeat is not under question. Nearly 25 million Soviets died because of the Germans.

However, to minimilize the US's effort in the ETO victory is plain stupid and ignorant. Without our involvement the West would've remained under German control.

 

[PlumpRump]

Bullshit. Carry on acting like you paid for the war to be won; remember that not every countru is willing to fight only for money.
Better yet, lets look at wars you've fought without assistance, lets start with Vietnam:
Oh wow, you lose, what a surprise!

Change of subject without addressing my point... surprising. Yeah, wars are pretty much fought without funding, you're right. $31 billion is a pretty insignificant number, I was silly to bring that up. Not to mention it took the UK more than 60 years to pay back the debt owed to the US on Lend-Lease, yeah that $31B didn't help a bit.