PlasmaTwa2
The Second-Hottest Man in my Mother's Basement
I click on this thread and suddenly I'm reading about World War II. What the shit people?
^ You know they don't read anything on this board, right?
Without our involvement the West would've remained under German control.
I don't live in a bubble.
Thank you!Yeah it's rather telling that the first U.S. boots didn't touch down on Europe proper (Italy) until a full six months after Germany's crushing defeat at Stalingrad.
It's horrifying to imagine the massacre an invasion of France might have produced had the Soviets not been bleeding Hitler white on the Eastern front.
Wrong.The Soviet contribution to Hitler's defeat is not under question. Nearly 25 million Soviets died because of the Germans.
However, to minimilize the US's effort in the ETO victory is plain stupid and ignorant. Without our involvement the West would've remained under German control.
What point? I'm gonna recheck...Change of subject without addressing my point... surprising. Yeah, wars are pretty much fought without funding, you're right. $31 billion is a pretty insignificant number, I was silly to bring that up. Not to mention it took the UK more than 60 years to pay back the debt owed to the US on Lend-Lease, yeah that $31B didn't help a bit.
It's another senseless war. All war is senseless.I click on this thread and suddenly I'm reading about World War II. What the shit people?
Thank you again.Not a chance. It would have taken longer without our involvement, but the Soviets would have beaten Hitler straight up, and beaten him badly.
The one "x" factor is how far Germany's nuclear program might have gotten given that extra time. So in that sense it's a very good thing we helped accelerate an allied victory.
Wrong.
from that piece
"Officials say"
"one U.S. official told me, "
"a senior officer said,"
"a senior officer said,"
Want to convince people of your bullshit? Then get some data, not unquoted sources and hearsay which is contradicted by official reports.
More like a fact-free zone then.
Sorry you think so. Fact is we're beating the tar off of them. Apparently you're disappointed your side is losing.
Vodka what part of my statement is wrong.
Thank you!
...You should stop shouting in such an arrogant manner about this, anybody who watches the simpsons knows we're gonna save your arses in world war 3. If you don't stop being so arrogant, we might change our minds :tongue:
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OK nobody should ever listen to the Generals who actually run the war and who write presumably false reports and instead we should just listen to journalists who write about the conflict from the comfort of their offices in Washington and quote unnamed sources to support their claims.
:1orglaugh
better than starting a war that makes sense...
The Soviets did lose roughly 25 million during WWII vodkaz...but they would have for sure would have been able to win without the west.
The West would not have remained under German control if america hadn't intervened; Nobody takes on the Russians in a land war and prevails. The Japanese only managed it because the war was primarily naval.Sorry you think so. Fact is we're beating the tar off of them. Apparently you're disappointed your side is losing.
Vodka what part of my statement is wrong.
Well I'm both pleased and upset that you can't find it.Haha! Touché. I wish I could find that clip.
Moe: "Oho, an English boy, huh? You know, we saved your ass in World War II."
Hugh St. John Alastair Parkfield: "Yeah, well, we saved *your* arse in World War III."
The West would not have remained under German control if america hadn't intervened; Nobody takes on the Russians in a land war and prevails. The Japanese only managed it because the war was primarily naval.
So the Brits and Canadians would've invaded Normandy all by themselves? Or the Soviets would've taken all of Germany?
Fat chance.
Without us, Europe would be worse off today.
I been thinking and....well....that can't be true.It's another senseless war. All war is senseless.
:dunno: Can't really argue with that. Can only speculate as to how long it would be 'till the empire imploded if it spanned all Europe. Not to mention how the us would stand up to a united communist Europe :tongue:The fact is without us Western Europe would've been under Soviet domination post 1945.
Why not?I been thinking and....well....that can't be true.