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We've heard similar reports here but rumors are swirling around a number of candidates and, personally, I don't believe that there is a lot of fan excitement for Saban. Kevin Sumlin has received his contract extension from A&M but he likewise hasn't signed his so that possibility is very intriguing. Art Briles and David Shaw are the other 2 names that keep resurfacing as well. Saban's tact might be to up the ante with Bama. I would doubt that Sumlin's would be similar....A&M knows they can't win a pissing match with UT.
The word you're searching for is tactic.

Anyhow, I think Sumlin would leave even if Texas just offered him what he's making now. Replacing Manziel will be a nightmare and with the rest of team already sucking, he may not want to stick around for the eventual slide into mediocrity.
 

Jagger69

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The word you're searching for is tactic.

My mistake. Thanks for pointing that out. ;)

Anyhow, I think Sumlin would leave even if Texas just offered him what he's making now. Replacing Manziel will be a nightmare and with the rest of team already sucking, he may not want to stick around for the eventual slide into mediocrity.

Supposedly, the extension includes a nice raise. Certainly it won't be out of the range of the folks down in Austin. I just hope they don't throw a boatload of cash at Saban....I'd much rather get a guy who can build his own legend instead of cashing in on one that already exists.
 
I just hope they don't throw a boatload of cash at Saban....I'd much rather get a guy who can build his own legend instead of cashing in on one that already exists.
Honestly, Saban is overrated as a coach. His real strength is recruiting, and it certainly helps when the team you're recruiting for has a deep tradition. He's cashing in on the Alabama name. I suspect the same would happen with Texas. When you have a team absolutely loaded with 5 star talent, you're gonna consistently win.

In a small way, he reminds me of Pat Day when Dye was coaching at Auburn. On his best day as a coach, Dye was nothing more than mediocre, but as a recruiter, he was awesome. With the talent Dye pulled in, he should have dominated the 80's, but his conservative nature, coupled with poor coaching at the wrong times, amounted to records that were noting more than respectable. After Dye, Auburn ended up with a coach who was completely different. Terry Bowden was an awesome coach, but as a recruiter, he was a complete moron. Bowden breezed thru his first 2 seasons, with Dye's recruits, and after that, the team went to hell in a handbasket when he had to start using his recruits. I gave up on Bowden when he made one of the worst coaching decisions in the history of college football. The firing of defensive coordinator Wayne Hall, which reminds me of a great story. When Terry Bowden was offered the Auburn job, the first thing he did was call his dad, Bobby, and ask him what he needed to do. The first thing out of Bobby Bowden's mouth was straight to the point, Keep Wayne Hall.

As for Texas, right now their mindset is most likely geared towards trying to get someone who can very quickly get them back to being a serious competitor. Saban could do that, but Texas needs to keep an eye on the future. Even if Saban took the Texas job, I don't see him staying as long as they'd want. I doubt he'd stay longer thahan 5 or 6 years before deciding that he has enough money and it was time to retire.
 
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I'm going through the same thing with my dad as well. Must be something in the air. Good luck, Bodie, ol' buddy....except at the the Alamo Bowl. ;) (actually, my guess is the Ducks spit-roast the Horns in Mack Brown's swan song).

sorry bout your dad bro. this can be painful on my part. it has had me on the corner of walk and dont walk for months now. sometimes doing the right thing is a tough decision.
 

Jagger69

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Honestly, Saban is overrated as a coach. His real strength is recruiting, and it certainly helps when the team you're recruiting for has a deep tradition. He's cashing in on the Alabama name. I suspect the same would happen with Texas. When you have a team absolutely loaded with 5 star talent, you're gonna consistently win.

That's why we don't need him. Mack Brown is a tremendous recruiter. Check out where Texas ranks in terms of recruiting classes year after year and you'll see it consistently rate in the top 5. It's coaching the players once they get to Austin and during games that has been the problem the last few years because Mack is a field manager....doesn't have a clue really. His past strength in recruiting was his ability to surround himself with assistant coaches who were able to take care of player development and game-day tactics (not tacts....:1orglaugh). Many of those coaches have left over the past 3-4 years and left Mack all by himself. Not a good situation. Saban's advantage at Bama is his staff IMO.

Jordan Hicks, Jackson Jeffcoat, Johnathan Gray....these guys were not just 5-star recruits, the were the top recruits in the entire nation. And the best we can do is 8-4? Gotta be the coaching. Sumlin or Briles would be a much better choice from my vantage point but Steve Patterson and the BOR may feel differently.
 
That's why we don't need him. Mack Brown is a tremendous recruiter. Check out where Texas ranks in terms of recruiting classes year after year and you'll see it consistently rate in the top 5. It's coaching the players once they get to Austin and during games that has been the problem the last few years because Mack is a field manager....doesn't have a clue really. His past strength in recruiting was his ability to surround himself with assistant coaches who were able to take care of player development and game-day tactics (not tacts....:1orglaugh). Many of those coaches have left over the past 3-4 years and left Mack all by himself. Not a good situation. Saban's advantage at Bama is his staff IMO.

Jordan Hicks, Jackson Jeffcoat, Johnathan Gray....these guys were not just 5-star recruits, the were the top recruits in the entire nation. And the best we can do is 8-4? Gotta be the coaching. Sumlin or Briles would be a much better choice from my vantage point but Steve Patterson and the BOR may feel differently.

Well, I've been saying the saying the same thing since the 80's about Texas. They've been loaded with the best talent, but just cannot convert it into titles. The problem had to be the coaching.

You may see what I do, but I doubt the powers that be at Texas see it. Right now, they're looking at Saban as their messiah.

If Saban ends up in Texas and wins an NC, he may just go ahead and retire. Several coaches have won titles at 2 schools, but I don't think any have done it at 3.
 
It would be interesting to see what Winston would be able to do against Sparty's defense. Like I said before, if it wasn't for some questionable officiating in South Bend, Sparty could be undefeated right now. I don't think that Ohio State got exposed as much as Michigan State showed that it's a damn good football team.

Sparty played lights out D and Connor is a solid playmaker on O. As a more normal and reasonable Ohio State Fan, I never looked past them! The Big 10 was off this year, Hope The Bucks and Sparty win their Bowl games! Go B1G!
 

Jagger69

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I'm glad Satan....er, Saban is staying in Tuscaloosa. I just hope that the honchos at Texas aren't stupid enough to let Mack Brown go ahead and stay since they couldn't get their number one choice. Plenty of really good coaches out there that would jump at the chance to come to Austin. Come on Steve....find somebody and pull the trap door on Mack....SOON.

http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/2013/12/mack-brown-is-still-uts-head-coach/#18807101=0
 
I'm glad Satan....er, Saban is staying in Tuscaloosa. I just hope that the honchos at Texas aren't stupid enough to let Mack Brown go ahead and stay since they couldn't get their number one choice. Plenty of really good coaches out there that would jump at the chance to come to Austin. Come on Steve....find somebody and pull the trap door on Mack....SOON.

http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/2013/12/mack-brown-is-still-uts-head-coach/#18807101=0

I was out last night and people were rumoring that Mack Brown was staying, but in looking at the news this morning, it doesn't look like that has actually been decided. If he does stay, it will certainly make the Texas President and AD look like real assholes. It really would be in their best interest to get rid of him now, or they could find themselves being forced out.

Based on this, it really doesn't matter if Saban signed an extension with Alabama for 7.5 million per year. His contract has a clause where he can walk any time he wants with no buyout.

Someone was also saying that Texas had upped their Saban offer to 11 million per year with a 1% stake in the Longhorn network. That 1% offer sounds really farfetched.
 
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he would never get out of alabama in one piece. they would be people on the streets taking up money in buckets. i knew he wasnt going anywhere he just wanted a raise. i thought i read last night it was confirmed. mack is staying?
 

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I'm glad Satan....er, Saban is staying in Tuscaloosa. I just hope that the honchos at Texas aren't stupid enough to let Mack Brown go ahead and stay since they couldn't get their number one choice. Plenty of really good coaches out there that would jump at the chance to come to Austin. Come on Steve....find somebody and pull the trap door on Mack....SOON.

http://blog.chron.com/sportsupdate/2013/12/mack-brown-is-still-uts-head-coach/#18807101=0

They let Mack Brown stay. :facepalm:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...55/report-mack-brown-to-return-as-texas-coach
 

Jagger69

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That's basically the same article I posted with a different headline, Tony. No one has announced he's staying so the headline is misleading. The fools who run the Texas football program haven't made up their minds yet. Here's what Steve Patterson said:

Hopefully we'll be able to get together and work for many years to come....when we have something to announce, we'll announce it.

A pretty ambiguous statement when you consider that supposed Mack has been offered a position somewhere within the athletic department. I will be extremely disappointed if he stays. I was hoping that Patterson would be a breath of fresh air as AD. Now, it seems possible that he may be a carbon copy of DeLoss Dodds.

It is quite possible he'll stay....most of the Horns fans I know want Mack to go. Nick Saban isn't the only coach in the country who knows how to put an effective staff together. Hopefully Patterson and the BOR will realize that and make the correct decision.
 

Jagger69

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This is Steve Patterson putting his stamp on the franchise. Interesting now that Kevin Sumlin still has not signed his contract extension. Now, all bets are off and a lot of really good coaching possibilities will be available to the Horns as things go forward. My personal preferences include Sumlin, Briles, Shaw, Malzahn, O'Brien, Pinkel or Patterson. Any of them would make excellent choices IMO. There are some rumors going around that Texas may make a money play for Jim Harbaugh or Jon Gruden but I don't see either one of those scenarios coming to fruition.

Thanks for the memories, Mack. We'll never forget the 2005 Vince Young-led championship against heavily-favored USC with Leinart, Bush and company. Nobody gave us a chance but that was Mack's best motivational job with the Horns. One of the greatest NC games ever. Maybe THE greatest.
 

BCT

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That's basically the same article I posted with a different headline, Tony. No one has announced he's staying so the headline is misleading. The fools who run the Texas football program haven't made up their minds yet. Here's what Steve Patterson said:



A pretty ambiguous statement when you consider that supposed Mack has been offered a position somewhere within the athletic department. I will be extremely disappointed if he stays. I was hoping that Patterson would be a breath of fresh air as AD. Now, it seems possible that he may be a carbon copy of DeLoss Dodds.

It is quite possible he'll stay....most of the Horns fans I know want Mack to go. Nick Saban isn't the only coach in the country who knows how to put an effective staff together. Hopefully Patterson and the BOR will realize that and make the correct decision.

They may have wanted to include that in the title. Fucking Journalists :facepalm:
 
I said it this morning, there was no confirmation that Brown was staying, and the powers that be at Texas may have saved their own asses by getting rid of him. Now, who do they go after?

Saban may still be in the running. And if so, he may have several good reasons to leave:

1) Bama is graduating is a ton of talent this year.
2) There is a strong possibility the NCAA won't be able to ignore all the evidence gathered by Yahoo Sports and be forced into an investigation of Bama.
3) I found out today, Saban and a business partner are being sued over something dealing with real estate and the lawsuit is seeking somewhere between 20 and 30 million. And, the rumor mill is saying someone at Texas has offered to pay off the lawsuit should he lose.

Anyhow, another possible candidate no has mentioned is Kirby Smart. Any thoughts?
 

Jagger69

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I said it this morning, there was no confirmation that Brown was staying, and the powers that be at Texas may have saved their own asses by getting rid of him. Now, who do they go after?

Just for the record, I said it too. From the beginning. ;) :D

Anyhow, another possible candidate no has mentioned is Kirby Smart. Any thoughts?

I don't see a program like Texas hiring an assistant to take over. Still, if you can't get Satan, why not look to one of his minions? Possible, not probable I would say.

Also, take Sumlin off the list:

http://www.ncaa.com/news/football/a...in-signs-six-year-contract-extension-texas-am
 
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