Your opinion on Nick Griffin's (BNP) scheduled appearance on Question Time?

He is always described as far right but except for his stance on race he is ultra hard left. I recall Norman Tebbit describing the BNP as a socialist party.But then, so was Hitler's.

We either have free speech or we don't. You can't say "we have free speech but you can't say .............."
 
He is always described as far right but except for his stance on race he is ultra hard left. I recall Norman Tebbit describing the BNP as a socialist party.But then, so was Hitler's.

We either have free speech or we don't. You can't say "we have free speech but you can't say .............."

That's not accurate either though. Their policies aren't further to the left than Old Labour - they just happen to be extremely authoritarian and clearly racist.

This makes them closest to the true fascism of Mussolini rather than Hitler's national socialism, in that they're not easy to fix on a traditional left-right scale. They're extreme radical centrists, picking bits from both left and right.

Nick Griffin is speaking on the phone on the BBC right now, by the way.
 
Mmm, they should have got George Galloway & Shami Chakrabarti on the panel.

Yes, that would be interesting viewing.
Much as I disagree with much that George Galloway says I admire his refusal to use weasel words .He says what he thinks and doesn't take prisoners.
And please people stop flattering Jack Straw , he hasn't risen to the level of imbecile yet though he gibbers quite well.
 
Its a democratic process that elected them, its a democratic right that each of the represented parties should be given a voice. Its not the BBC's job to censor Mr Griffin, that job should best be left to politicians, the BBC rightly has tried to remain impartial in its representation of all sides of the argument! I am half expecting him to put his foot in his mouth and the others to eat him alive.
 

Spleen

Banned?
I'm sure it's gonna be interesting, I'm gonna miss it tonight but I will definately catch a repeat. The best way to get rid of the BNP is to give them a huge media audience so the whole country can laugh at them.

It could back fire though I suppose, and everyone ends up voting for them :dunno:
 
I'm sure it's gonna be interesting, I'm gonna miss it tonight but I will definately catch a repeat. The best way to get rid of the BNP is to give them a huge media audience so the whole country can laugh at them.

It could back fire though I suppose, and everyone ends up voting for them :dunno:

It will be on I Player-you will be able to watch it on the BBC website, it probably won't be repeated on normal TV.
 

habo9

Banned
While I dont agree with what they stand for , everyone should be allowed in a democratic country should be allowed to voice there views , if we censor them we have lost democracy , this is what people have died for , we all of a sudden cant just turn Stalanistic because we dont agree with some peoples views , plus this Labour government should shoulder some of the blame for them getting to where they are today they are the ones that let immigrants in put them in poor housing areas then give them anything they want , while people who have lived there for years get nothing , is there any wonder tensions in these areas have risin but the anger & tension shouldnt be aimed at other people just trying to make a better life for themselves , we would all do the same if it were us , the blame should fall squarely at the governments door for not controlling it properly , this is the only country in the world that lets murderers , rapists and any other sort of criminal in , without vetting them first

Now because of Labours incompetence , we have these sorts of people rising to power
 

habo9

Banned
Re: Police Hurt As BNP Protest Turns Violent

Three police officers have been injured after violent protests over the appearance of BNP leader Nick Griffin on BBC's Question Time.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK...fin-For-Question-Time/Article/200910415411865



Im sick to death of this rent-a-mob , who are trying to promote peace and acceptance as soon as they dont agree with something they are smashing up shops or attacking police or people so much double standards , these arent the kind of people I want trying to get my views across , hippy new age twats
 
I'm slightly uncomfortable about it.

Would have much preffered an interview with Paxman or Humphreys, either of them would have teared him to pieces, unfortunately he'll probably get an easy ride on QT.
 
Re: Police Hurt As BNP Protest Turns Violent

Im sick to death of this rent-a-mob , who are trying to promote peace and acceptance as soon as they dont agree with something they are smashing up shops or attacking police or people so much double standards , these arent the kind of people I want trying to get my views across , hippy new age twats
Exactly. The actions of these workshy eternal students seems to be totally contrary to a liberal democracy that promotes free speech! :mad:
 
Being an american I can only comment as an outsider but many of our principles are derived from same basis.

Of course he has a right to express his view IMO.Now whether or not the govt is required or anyone else for that matter is required to provide him with a platform for his message is another issue.Is this guy an elected person in your govt? Really what I'm saying is does he have enough of a constituency that would say he deserves to be heard free via a govt procedure (question time).
 
Being an american I can only comment as an outsider but many of our principles are derived from same basis.

Of course he has a right to express his view IMO.Now whether or not the govt is required or anyone else for that matter is required to provide him with a platform for his message is another issue.Is this guy an elected person in your govt? Really what I'm saying is does he have enough of a constituency that would say he deserves to be heard free via a govt procedure (question time).
Sadly the BNP won 15 council seats out of 584 contested in 2008 England local elections.
 

jasonk282

Banned
Re: Police Hurt As BNP Protest Turns Violent

Im sick to death of this rent-a-mob , who are trying to promote peace and acceptance as soon as they dont agree with something they are smashing up shops or attacking police or people so much double standards , these arent the kind of people I want trying to get my views across , hippy new age twats

nice to see it's a problem across the pond as well. It's a joke that they want peace and no police involvement, but then they break and smash stuff when people disagree with them.
 
Being an american I can only comment as an outsider but many of our principles are derived from same basis.

Of course he has a right to express his view IMO.Now whether or not the govt is required or anyone else for that matter is required to provide him with a platform for his message is another issue.Is this guy an elected person in your govt? Really what I'm saying is does he have enough of a constituency that would say he deserves to be heard free via a govt procedure (question time).

here FOMM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/question_time/default.stm
 
Sadly the BNP won 15 council seats out of 584 contested in 2008 England local elections.

Thanks for the info,that answers my question.I probably understand why and how his party gets support.People feel stressed and desperate and start looking for scapegoats so the BNP grows.
 

habo9

Banned
Re: Police Hurt As BNP Protest Turns Violent

Exactly. The actions of these workshy eternal students seems to be totally contrary to a liberal democracy that promotes free speech! :mad:

Its always the same unwashed people you see on the news , these people ought to realize nobody listens to them or interested in there veiws thats probably why they resort to the tactics they use
 
Just seen several extracts on BBC News and it looks like he took a rinsing.

To clarify for our American friends this guy is a bigotted racist who's party deny membership to non white-caucasians and is committed to foreigners being expelled from this country. Oh and also he denied that the Holocaust ever took place.

As for the claim that he deserves a platform because of freedom of speech and all that, well that's exactly what Hitler got and look how that one turned out.
 
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