Your 2010/2011 NFL MVP -- Mr. Tom Brady vs Michael Vick. Who ya got?

[316sherm]

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Huh? The Pro Bowl is basically 2-hand touch. The Pro Bowl is a reward not an actual competitive game.

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Refer to my earlier quote...

I would like to see them in the Superbowl then we can really end the debate.

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[Member442]

Tom Brady

 

[Neutron66]

Brady won't play in the Pro Bowl because he'll be prepping for the Super Bowl.

 

[phanto_1985]

I don't know better thing that a match to decide who's the best, the NFL will deliver it to Tom "Terrific" for what he's doing right now & what he's accomplished too, Vick is simply amazing this year. The Super Bowl & the Play Offs are way too unforeseeable with good contenders like the Ravens, the Chiefs, the Falcons, the Bears or even the Chargers that i thought the Pro Bowl would be the best way to decide who's actually the Man. A reward game to decide The 2010 MVP.
One last thing, i still think my team, the Steelers, could reach the Super Bowl too,even tough Tom Brady beat the hell out of them at Heinz Field.

 

[E-Ann-Hilden]

Who has a better class of players, Vick or Brady? Vick by far, but he has been reborn as a player, still Brady in my book.

 

[Bearded_Menace]

Brady won't play in the Pro Bowl because he'll be prepping for the Super Bowl.

God I hope not. Man, if James Harrison ever needed to lay a lick on someone I hope it would be Brady. I'd pay the fine he would receive if he were to take out that sissy boy for the rest of this season and parts of next season.


Phillip Rivers is the fucking man by the way....

 

[ForumModeregulator]

Apologies to all for veering a little off topic, but just to finish the above post, I suppose my question back to you would be how come the league can ban Stanley Wilson and Earl Ferrell for life for drug use (non-violent acts, and neither player was ever charged with a crime relating to their usage), but allow Vick to go back?

I'm NOT saying they were wrong: what I'm saying is that the league is inconsistent - incoherent even - with it's discipline, far too easily swayed by the politics and money that constantly threaten to completely overshadow the only thing that actually matters: the play.

(Thanks to other posters for bearing with me on this.)

Wilson and Ferrell played under a different commissioner and played in the 80's. Not very relevant. A LOT has changed since then. But you do make an interesting point...

It's not a league issue. Its a social one. I agree, that for many "average" citizens, if they were ever convicted of making millions of dollars off of an illegal gambling ring, among other things...they would still be rotting in prison, and for sure would not be able to get a job right outta prison. Just look at all of the lower class, criminals, who have cleaned their acts up but will never be looked at by a legitimate employer due to a criminal history...

That is unfair. Yes hes a great story, but the underlying theme is that if you have money, and more importantly can make the "important" people money, then you have a pass. Vick has made millions of dollars for the league, along with a SHIT TON of publicity for Goodell. But in the end, it's our own fault that men like this get away with it, because we are the ones cherish sports stars, and the sports they play.

On the other hand, Vick's case is the way things should be. If you get in trouble, rehabilitate, and pay your dues to society...well god damn't you deserve another shot at life. Ill still say that Vick deserved this opportunity, but its sad that others don't.

 

[YumiYumi_1988]

Hernandez and Gronkowski are not shitty players. They're going to be studs. They both had solid college careers at Big Boy Colleges. They're just rooks now.

Aaron Hernandez within a few years will be a top 3 tight end.

I'm not sure how to argue against Matt Ryan. He does seem to have everything needed to be in the discussion.

I would put his teammate Roddy White, the most productive WR this year, ahead of him. :2 cents:

The Pro Bowl will decide whether Tom Vick or Michael Brady is the MVP, The field speaks louder than the stats or the words.I have no doubt the 2 will face each other & we'll see who's the best this year.

Not if either is playing in the Super Bowl the following week. And even if they were, they'd play about a quarter.

 

[ForumModeregulator]

Not if either is playing in the Super Bowl the following week. And even if they were, they'd play about a quarter.

yea, anybody who uses an all star game to evaluate a player...

besides, im pretty sure Tom Brady received the most votes for the pro bowl this year...that says something.