X-Men Origins: Wolverine

[The Joker]

Agree and about juggernaut he isn't a mutant now is he? he got his powers from the helm he carries and wasn't xavier his brother? Anyways the thing i wondered about him how did he get owned when rushing into the wall at the end. The kid can only "cure" mutants.

But "Don’t you know who I am? I’m the Juggernaut, bitch!" was epic.

( just watched the movie )

Yeah, Juggernaut pretty much became what Sabretooth was in X-Men.

A mutant thug.

Sabretooth atleast had scenes where there were hints of a backstory with Wolverine (dog tags), but on the other hand, I dont believe every person who went and saw X-Men got that connection. Juggernaut, got none of that. No hint of history with Xavier. Nothing. And without looking at wiki, I just naturally assumed he was a mutant. Since there were no hints of his powers being magical either.

 

[darkwarrior3007]

Yeah, Juggernaut pretty much became what Sabretooth was in X-Men.

A mutant thug.

Sabretooth atleast had scenes where there were hints of a backstory with Wolverine (dog tags), but on the other hand, I dont believe every person who went and saw X-Men got that connection. Juggernaut, got none of that. No hint of history with Xavier. Nothing. And without looking at wiki, I just naturally assumed he was a mutant. Since there were no hints of his powers being magical either.

I think they were trying to make Juggernaut a mutant, otherwise they would've used the Gem of Cyttorak. Another thing is the movie wasn't necessarily about Juggernaut so there was no real reason to go into his back story. Also don't forget that having Juggernaut as a mutant isn't a stretch because Ultimate Juggernaut is a mutant with no connection to Xavier.

 

[Master_Gio]

I think they were trying to make Juggernaut a mutant, otherwise they would've used the Gem of Cyttorak. Another thing is the movie wasn't necessarily about Juggernaut so there was no real reason to go into his back story. Also don't forget that having Juggernaut as a mutant isn't a stretch because Ultimate Juggernaut is a mutant with no connection to Xavier.

You bring some good points there. But, even so the presentation of the character was silly and laughable, as was the look of the costume.

 

[darkwarrior3007]

You bring some good points there. But, even so the presentation of the character was silly and laughable, as was the look of the costume.

Actually I think the costume was fine. I think if they used the costume from the comics then it would've looked silly.

 

[member979979]

Am I the only one who stopped caring for X-men when I turned 12?

 

[Will E Worm]

Don't know if it fits in the storyline but why not add Omega Red or Apocalypse i really want so see some bad ass dude for some happy three friends action.

I'd like to see Omega Red in an X-Men movie, Lady Deathstrike too.

Am I the only one who stopped caring for X-men when I turned 12?

Is that when your imagination died too? :tongue:

 

[zell]

I'd like to see Omega Red in an X-Men movie, Lady Deathstrike too.



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Maybe you were saying it as a joke and I just didn't get it,but Lady Deathstrike was already in an X-Men movie.

Like I said before,Omega Red would be great.

 

[Will E Worm]

Maybe you were saying it as a joke and I just didn't get it,but Lady Deathstrike was already in an X-Men movie.

Like I said before,Omega Red would be great.

I didn't like that version.

Blink would be good too.

She should still be in the Exiles.

Mimic from Exiles should be in the 616 universe.

 

[Timbobjambo]

I can't take it anymore i have to see this movie, i feel like cartman waiting for the nintendo wii.

 

[The Joker]

I think they were trying to make Juggernaut a mutant, otherwise they would've used the Gem of Cyttorak. Another thing is the movie wasn't necessarily about Juggernaut so there was no real reason to go into his back story. Also don't forget that having Juggernaut as a mutant isn't a stretch because Ultimate Juggernaut is a mutant with no connection to Xavier.

Thank god for the Ultimate universe. Not only does it enable writers and artists to freshen up 40-70 year old characters, but also gives Marvel a way out if they happen to stray too far from what was established the 616 universe.

As far as Juggernaut's costume goes, I wasnt too big a fan of it. Personally, I would have preferred him to be completely CGI. ala the Hulk.

 

[Will E Worm]

As far as Juggernaut's costume goes, I wasnt too big a fan of it. Personally, I would have preferred him to be completely CGI. ala the Hulk.

I'd rather have seen Juggernaut as a CGI too.

The movie costume was...:throwup:

Also, the movie was supposed to be the 616 universe. Which it wasn't.

 

[darkwarrior3007]

Also, the movie was supposed to be the 616 universe. Which it wasn't.

You see I don't necessarily look at the movies as the 616 universe and I believe Marvel said this as well. With all of the changes (which mostly happens because what works in a comic doesn't always translate well to a movie) I look at it as another universe similar to "616", "Ultimate", "MC2", etc.... The movies sort of borrow a little bit from all of the different universes that Marvel created and even take the liberty of adding some creative license with them. There's nothing wrong with that as long as it doesn't stray too far from the source material that it's not even recognizable.

 

[Will E Worm]

Darkwarrior3007, I did like Magneto more than I thought I would. But, I'd rather comic movies be more like their counter parts.
I'd rather have my characters in a animated direct to DVD movie and shows.

I don't need Hollywood messing with them.

Like Robert Crumb's characters. He killed off Fritz the cat because of Hollywood.

 

[Nina_Mercedez]

The kid in ice is Mastermind ( not 100% sure )

Mastermind from the Hellfire Club The Illusionist??
What makes you think so??? Just curious??

 

[Nina_Mercedez]

am i the only one who stopped caring for x-men when i turned 12?

yes...lol

 

[Nina_Mercedez]

And the "I'm the juggernaut bitch" ruined x-men 3.

I know since when did they cuss??? I think it ruined the movie too.

 

[darkwarrior3007]

I know since when did they cuss??? I think it ruined the movie too.

That wasn't the only thing that ruined X-Men 3. Too many mutants, a screwed up story, ruining the Dark Phoenix, and Brett Ratner. Not a very good combination. However after seeing Batman Forever, Batman & Robin, and Catwoman; X-Men 3 like Spider-Man 3 is watchable and tolerable.

 

[Analingus]

That wasn't the only thing that ruined X-Men 3. Too many mutants, a screwed up story, ruining the Dark Phoenix, and Brett Ratner. Not a very good combination. However after seeing Batman Forever, Batman & Robin, and Catwoman; X-Men 3 like Spider-Man 3 is watchable and tolerable.

Hey, hey... come on now. Batman Forever was way better than Catwoman. How dare you put them in the same sentence. :rofl:

 

[TheRedHood]

Bad news about Deadpool.

SPOILERS for Deadpool's character in Wolverine: Origins ahead!!!!

The following was taken from toplessrobot.com:

I have good news and bad news, people. The good news is that Topless Robot seems to have its first, real, honest-to-goodness Hollywood inside tipster! He worked on the Wolverine movie, and emailed me to clear up the Deadpool situation and... well, that's the bad news, especially for all you folks still deep in denial. Now, these are very much spoilers, because there's some very specific info being revealed here -- consider this your SPOILER WARNING. Now here's what my guy (I have a guy! I'm so excited!) says:

• Ryan Reynolds shows up for 10 minutes in the beginning of the film. He's part of Stryker's team, and his mutant ability is mostly being a badass with swords, cutting bullets and the like. He is called Wade Wilson during this period.
• Stryker's big plan (or one of 'em) is to make Weapon XI, a mutant with a ****-ton of mutant powers.
• Stryker uses Wilson's body as the mutant power receptacle, and because of the scarring (I'm not sure whether that's from a previous fight, or as a result of all the mutant powers getting packed into him), Weapon XI is played by Scott Adkins. Weapon XI appears for about ten minutes near the film's end, and has the claws seen above (a la Wolverine), Cyclops' optic blast, Wraith's teleportation ability, and Wolverine's healing factor, too. Also, his mouth is indeed sewn shut.
• Just like Weapon X is given the name "Wolverine," Weapon XI is given the name "Deadpool."

So really, the only inaccuracies with the toys is that Hasbro is calling the Wade Wilson figure Deadpool too, although I can see why they'd rather put "Deadpool" on the packaging rather than "Wade." So, guys... you can freak out and boycott Fox if you want, but please, stop pretending these are two separate characters. Now, it's possible my source is inaccurate, but he's given me ample evidence to believe him (you'll have to trust me on this). So in summary: Wade Wilson is Weapon XI is Deadpool, even if he's played by two different actors. The movie's Deadpool has two big, silly claws, at least by the end. I'm sorry. But that's the way it appears to be.

On a slightly happier note, I've got a much more pleasant spoiler for you after the jump. It's not at all Deadpool related, so I figured some of you would want to avoid it.

Apparently, there's a cameo by a certain Professor at the end of the movie. When Stryker's compound is falling apart and Wolverine is leading young Emma Frost and Cyclops out of the building, Cyclops suddenly knows the way out. When they get to the door, standing there -- oh yes, standing -- is Charles Xavier, controlling wee Cyclops' mind like he'll be doing several billion more times in the future. He's apparently not played by Patrick Stewart, by the way. Weird.

Also: Despite what the trailer would have you believe, most of the other mutants are only cameos as well. Gambit only has about 10 minutes of screentime, for instance. Just like the Marvel Universe, it's Wolverine's show.

Finally, my tipster says the film isn't quite as good as X-Men Uno or Dos, but it's a hell of a lot better that X-3. That's pretty much what I was expecting. But I'm guessing a lot of you Deadpool fans might be more aghast at the Deadpool Debacle than you were by X-3's rampant stupidity.

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/03/the_deadpool_debacle_ended_probably.php

 

[darkwarrior3007]

Bad news about Deadpool.

SPOILERS for Deadpool's character in Wolverine: Origins ahead!!!!

The following was taken from toplessrobot.com:

I have good news and bad news, people. The good news is that Topless Robot seems to have its first, real, honest-to-goodness Hollywood inside tipster! He worked on the Wolverine movie, and emailed me to clear up the Deadpool situation and... well, that's the bad news, especially for all you folks still deep in denial. Now, these are very much spoilers, because there's some very specific info being revealed here -- consider this your SPOILER WARNING. Now here's what my guy (I have a guy! I'm so excited!) says:

• Ryan Reynolds shows up for 10 minutes in the beginning of the film. He's part of Stryker's team, and his mutant ability is mostly being a badass with swords, cutting bullets and the like. He is called Wade Wilson during this period.
• Stryker's big plan (or one of 'em) is to make Weapon XI, a mutant with a ****-ton of mutant powers.
• Stryker uses Wilson's body as the mutant power receptacle, and because of the scarring (I'm not sure whether that's from a previous fight, or as a result of all the mutant powers getting packed into him), Weapon XI is played by Scott Adkins. Weapon XI appears for about ten minutes near the film's end, and has the claws seen above (a la Wolverine), Cyclops' optic blast, Wraith's teleportation ability, and Wolverine's healing factor, too. Also, his mouth is indeed sewn shut.
• Just like Weapon X is given the name "Wolverine," Weapon XI is given the name "Deadpool."

So really, the only inaccuracies with the toys is that Hasbro is calling the Wade Wilson figure Deadpool too, although I can see why they'd rather put "Deadpool" on the packaging rather than "Wade." So, guys... you can freak out and boycott Fox if you want, but please, stop pretending these are two separate characters. Now, it's possible my source is inaccurate, but he's given me ample evidence to believe him (you'll have to trust me on this). So in summary: Wade Wilson is Weapon XI is Deadpool, even if he's played by two different actors. The movie's Deadpool has two big, silly claws, at least by the end. I'm sorry. But that's the way it appears to be.

On a slightly happier note, I've got a much more pleasant spoiler for you after the jump. It's not at all Deadpool related, so I figured some of you would want to avoid it.

Apparently, there's a cameo by a certain Professor at the end of the movie. When Stryker's compound is falling apart and Wolverine is leading young Emma Frost and Cyclops out of the building, Cyclops suddenly knows the way out. When they get to the door, standing there -- oh yes, standing -- is Charles Xavier, controlling wee Cyclops' mind like he'll be doing several billion more times in the future. He's apparently not played by Patrick Stewart, by the way. Weird.

Also: Despite what the trailer would have you believe, most of the other mutants are only cameos as well. Gambit only has about 10 minutes of screentime, for instance. Just like the Marvel Universe, it's Wolverine's show.

Finally, my tipster says the film isn't quite as good as X-Men Uno or Dos, but it's a hell of a lot better that X-3. That's pretty much what I was expecting. But I'm guessing a lot of you Deadpool fans might be more aghast at the Deadpool Debacle than you were by X-3's rampant stupidity.

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/03/the_deadpool_debacle_ended_probably.php

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