WWII ; Was Allied bombing of Germany a war crime?

[bodie54]

Hitler invaded Poland because Poland would not release German POW's from WW1.

If you watch the video again you will see Israel wanted to genocide the Germans. Israel started it.

Judea Declares War On Germany 1 of 9 Link

Oh god, not this shit again :1orglaugh
Meesterperfect posted this same garbage heap video a few years ago.
I guess my relatives who were murdered in the camps, and the ones who survived, with tattoos on their arms, and nightmares that lasted the rest of their lives, were all just part of some elaborate "hoax" :1orglaugh

By the way, do you know what happened in Germany shortly before the Zionist boycott of 1933? That holocaust-denying video doesn't tell you (no surprise there). Do some homework and you should be able to perceive events in objective context.

If you watch the video again you will see Israel wanted to genocide the Germans. Israel started it.

Israel started it?
That would be a pretty neat trick being as the state of Israel did not exist until 1948.

 

[sean miguel]

Mao Zedong was responsible for between 34,000,000 to 68,000,000 deaths.

Communist - Pass

Stalin: 23,000,000 - 60,000,000 deaths

Communist - Pass

Hitler: 6,000,000 deaths

Ok until he invaded soviet union. Then a fascist bastard.

Hideki Tojo: 5,000,000 deaths

Racial minority - Pass

Pol Pot: 2,500,000 deaths

Who?

 

[tartanterrier]

No because they had it coming

 

[assari]

No because they had it coming

True, Germans started the war and they behaved like nazis.


But what if you think this issue at the individual level.

Is it right to attack against the children?

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

True, Germans started the war and they behaved like nazis.


But what if you think this issue at the individual level.

Is it right to attack against the children?

If you act in an aggressive way YOU have put YOUR innocents in danger. When you are in a full scale war you defeat your adversaries before you yourself are defeated this will lead to collateral casualties. The population of your enemy helps support their military it helps with the morale of your enemy you must make life miserable for them as well. Now I will say murder of children in a focused way is a clear war crime, but in the end war is the business of domination and control and most of all BLOOD.
In the end there is no 'nice' way to wage war it is dirty, ugly, and nasty at its very best and should be avoided if possible but to think someone can engage it in a clinical or sterile way is just naive.

 

[Will E Worm]

Oh god, not this shit again :1orglaugh
Meesterperfect posted this same garbage heap video a few years ago.
I guess my relatives who were murdered in the camps, and the ones who survived, with tattoos on their arms, and nightmares that lasted the rest of their lives, were all just part of some elaborate "hoax" :1orglaugh

By the way, do you know what happened in Germany shortly before the Zionist boycott of 1933? That holocaust-denying video doesn't tell you (no surprise there). Do some homework and you should be able to perceive events in objective context.

If you watch the video again you will see Israel wanted to genocide the Germans. Israel started it.

Israel started it?
That would be a pretty neat trick being as the state of Israel did not exist until 1948.

Judea Declares War On Germany, not Israel.

That's a good video.

No because they had it coming

:nono:

True, Germans started the war and they behaved like nazis.


But what if you think this issue at the individual level.

Is it right to attack against the children?

The Germans didn't call themselves "nazis." How did they act like something the enemy made up?

It was not right to attack and kill people like they did in Dresden. War crime.....

 

[xfire]

Judea Declares War On Germany, not Israel. That's a good video. The Germans didn't call themselves "nazis." How did they act like something the enemy made up? It was not right to attack and kill people like they did in Dresden. War crime.....

Nazi sympathizer.

 

[Will E Worm]

Nazi sympathizer.

:1orglaugh Tell the truth and liberals can only resort to name calling.

 

[Sam Fisher]

I would have to say that regardless whether the bombs were dropped on railyards, submarine bases, ball bearing factories or, on the general population, people were going to be killed either way. Surely there were humans at all those locations. The vast majority of the German people backed Hitler in the 1930s and up to 1945. To say the German population was unaware of the mass killings that the Nazis were inflicting upon the physically handicapped, mentally retarded, seniors, and not to mention the Jews, is ludicrous. Mass genocide was taking place, and it had to be stopped. Are we to turn a blind eye to what leaders of countries do to their own people?

Mao Zedong was responsible for between 34,000,000 to 68,000,000 deaths.

Stalin: 23,000,000 - 60,000,000 deaths

Hitler: 6,000,000 deaths

Hideki Tojo: 5,000,000 deaths

Pol Pot: 2,500,000 deaths

It's a shame those German cities were bombed. But, in the big scheme of things, I imagine the decision was made in order to break the will of the German people. And, I think it worked.

I felt it necessary to amend my post...

United States: 54,559,615 Abortions since the Roe vs. Wade Decision in 1973. Which if you stop and think about it, is a form of genocide, just like those mentioned above.

www.lifenews.com/.../54559615-abortions-since-roe-vs-wade-decisio...

 

[assari]

Judea Declares War On Germany, not Israel.











The Germans didn't call themselves "nazis." How did they act like something the enemy made up?

It was not right to attack and kill people like they did in Dresden. War crime.....

-Those Jews who declared war on Germany did pretty stupid trick, but it was just a magazine writing.

-Well, maybe it is better to say that the Germans were behaving like the National Socialist.

-War crime or mass murder.

 

[xfire]

:1orglaugh Tell the truth and liberals can only resort to name calling.

You think it's funny to be a Hitler lover? At some point even Fisher is going to turn on you.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Not at all. Try to stay on topic Sam.

 

[sean miguel]

Pol Pot: 2,500,000 deaths

Who?

I do know who Pol Pot was and what he did. My point was that while we hear alot about the 6 million who Hitler killed and rightfully so, that number is dwarfed in scale by the likes of Stalin and Mao but seems to be glossed over by many because of their ideology. At the time of the killing fields one well known western journalist attempted to justify the mass extermination of cambodians by pol pot by saying "We're just looking at this through western eyes." I guess if we just looked at it from an eastern perspective it would've all made sense.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

I do know who Pol Pot was and what he did. My point was that while we hear alot about the 6 million who Hitler killed and rightfully so, that number is dwarfed in scale by the likes of Stalin and Mao but seems to be glossed over by many because of their ideology. At the time of the killing fields one well known western journalist attempted to justify the mass extermination of cambodians by pol pot by saying "We're just looking at this through western eyes." I guess if we just looked at it from an eastern perspective it would've all made sense.

In the end were not keeping score genocide is the purest form of evil in this whole wide world it matters not the final count one bit.

Pol Pot was every bit the sick fuck as any of the others.

 

[sean miguel]

In the end were not keeping score genocide is the purest form of evil in this whole wide world it matters not the final count one bit.

Actually it does. If you were the 23,000,001st person killed by Stalin I'm sure you would've wished he had stopped at 23 million even.

 

[bodie54]

That's a good video.

It's a great video, if you prefer to live in a fantasy world.

When you are in a full scale war you defeat your adversaries before you yourself are defeated this will lead to collateral casualties. The population of your enemy helps support their military it helps with the morale of your enemy you must make life miserable for them as well. Now I will say murder of children in a focused way is a clear war crime, but in the end war is the business of domination and control and most of all BLOOD.
In the end there is no 'nice' way to wage war it is dirty, ugly, and nasty at its very best and should be avoided if possible but to think someone can engage it in a clinical or sterile way is just naive.

Good post. Covers pretty much all the principle concepts of "total war", as opposed to a couple of limited wars the U.S. (for instance) has fought since WWII

Total war is a war in which a belligerent engages in the complete mobilization of fully available resources and population.
In the mid-19th century, "total war" was identified by scholars as a separate class of warfare. In a total war, there is less differentiation between combatants and civilians than in other conflicts, and sometimes no such differentiation at all, as nearly every human resource, civilians and soldiers alike, can be considered to be part of the belligerent effort. Playing a major part in main conflicts from the French Revolutionary Wars to World War II, the employment of total war was replaced in the modern era by cheaper, quicker and more effective policies including guerrilla warfare and the adoption of weapons of mass destruction.

William T. Sherman's famous March To The Sea is considered a pertinent early example of "total war" tactics.

 

[sean miguel]

If you act in an aggressive way YOU have put YOUR innocents in danger. When you are in a full scale war you defeat your adversaries before you yourself are defeated this will lead to collateral casualties. The population of your enemy helps support their military it helps with the morale of your enemy you must make life miserable for them as well. Now I will say murder of children in a focused way is a clear war crime, but in the end war is the business of domination and control and most of all BLOOD.
In the end there is no 'nice' way to wage war it is dirty, ugly, and nasty at its very best and should be avoided if possible but to think someone can engage it in a clinical or sterile way is just naive.

War is nasty no matter how you look it and civilian casualties will never be avoided but it has become way more precise since WWII. Gone are the days when you carpet bomb enitire city blocks in order to take out a factory, a military HQ or a bridge. Now, a satellite guided munition is dropped through it's front window.

 

[zeeblofowl_1969]

Actually it does. If you were the 23,000,001st person killed by Stalin I'm sure you would've wished he had stopped at 23 million even.

Dead people don't wish.....

 

[Jagger69]

No because they had it coming

We all have it coming, kid.

 

[Will E Worm]

It's a great video, if you prefer to live in a fantasy world.

:tongue: