I think Shane is by far the more entertaining of the McMahons in the ring. Shane is pretty awesome in the ring IMO.
I think Vince is easier to hate and a bigger draw though.
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I think Shane is by far the more entertaining of the McMahons in the ring. Shane is pretty awesome in the ring IMO.
I think Vince is easier to hate and a bigger draw though.
You know there are really only 4 of us who actually post in this thread. Without BBB, IAF, and BeatSauce I would be somewhat bored here.
bigbadbrody
Banned
Every belt except for the WWE and World Titles, have been poorly used over the last few years. Look at all the short and crappy titles reigns, all the shitty wrestlers given the belts, all the crappy no. 1 contenders and then the hellish-boring title reigns that have lasted for so long, even though Vince knows the fans want another champ.
How is this weird. Mr Kennedy just want to be able win the title at the grandest of all shows, where millions and millions of wrestling fans will be tuned in. He does not want to win the title on raw or smackdown, because he knows there is not much of an audience for these shows anymore
Finlay deserved to win the Briefcase, look at how long he has been with the company. Finlay is a way better wrestler than Mr. Kennedy
Please explain your first paragraph or give examples if you can. The Heavyweight belts have been very prestigious the past couple of years with the long title reigns such as JBL holding it for over a year.
Love or hate a wrestler holding a belt for an extended period of time gives it prestige, but can also burn people out of that particular wrestler. Look at RVD and the ECW title. 23 months straight and never lost it in the ring. People considered that belt more popular than the heavyweight belt.
I also agree with your Kennedy statement.
Finlay is way better, but Kennedy will be just as good if not better very soon. Finlay is one of the greatest in the business, but I do think Kennedy has him beat on the mic.
Iamforever
Banned
tv title. although, i dont know how prestigious it was when ecw wasnt on a whole lot of markets those days.
bigbadbrody
Banned
The Italian guy who is the I.C. Champ, seeing that made me sick.
I loved Bradshaw and Farooq as the APA, again they could have been used better than they were used. I hated JBL as WWE Champ, but it made me tune in each week to see who was gonna come out and kick his ass. Giving the Belt to A hated Heel is a good Idea, it makes fans tune in the show.
I guarendamntee that he will cash that in before WM 08.
My bad, I meant to say TV title. Actually, did RVD ever hold the ORIGINAL ECW heavy weight title?
Iamforever
Banned
yes he did. when taz and raven and sabu and most of the a-list were gone. all there was, was dreamer, sandman, and rhyno.
IAF, I was never for certain if RVD won the original ECW heavweight title or not. I did not think he did since they made such a big deal out of him winning it last year.
I did some searching and went to wwe.com to the title history page.
http://www.wwe.com/shows/ecw/history/ecwchampionship/
It does not list RVD as champ until last June.
He may have won it at a house show years ago, but I think ECW would have noted that.:dunno:
Iamforever
Banned
justin credible had the title but not rvd?!
justin credible had the title but not rvd?!
I never understood why a lot of people thought Justin Credible was such a great wrestler. He really is not.
Hell, Sandman had the title five times and he is not a good wrestler, but he was an entertainer and people would pay to see him. I can't see Credible having much of a crowd following.
Anyone catch the Matt Hardy vs. Mr. Kennedy match on Smackdown!?
It was almost as good as RAW's Orton vs. Edge match.
Jimmy Wang Yang and Gregory Helms had an awesome battle too.
Boogeyman made my boy Regal look horrible. Boogeyman sucks! Good gimmick, but bad in ring wrestling.
It was almost as good as RAW's Orton vs. Edge match.
Jimmy Wang Yang and Gregory Helms had an awesome battle too.
Boogeyman made my boy Regal look horrible. Boogeyman sucks! Good gimmick, but bad in ring wrestling.
bigbadbrody
Banned
Any match with Jeff or Matt Hardy is bound to be good, and any match with Edge is bound to be boring. I used to like Edge way back in the day when he was with Christian and for a while when he was first on his own. But now every promo that he cuts and every match that Edge is in is boring and sucky
Obviously you did not see this match.
It was a heel vs. heel match and the crowd hated both wrestlers.
During the match and at the end the crowd was on their feet and both received a standing ovation.
:hatsoff: to Edge, Orton, Hardy, and Kennedy for the matches they performed this week.
Bah Regal should have and pretty much did beat his weirdo ass until they gave Boogey the push win with the ending move at the last second. Regal has pound for pound the best evil scowl in the history of pro wrestling and is also a bad ass fighter. I'm tired of seeing him play fall boy in all the matches.
I for one am not a Hardy fan boy. I like watching them wrestle, I just dont jock them like a 14 year old boy like all the fans do. Matt is a strong competitor but I expected to see Mr. Kennedy..............Kennedy end the match, and was dissapointed.
Jimmy Wang Yang is a goof ball, but he is fun to watch. He can lay down some nice moves.
I also enjoy watching MVP. He makes a good inbetweener heel and can back it up with some great wrestling and mic skills. It would be nice to see his feud with Benoit come to a dramatic finish so he can move on and start picking fights with other people.
My thoughts on Batista v Undertaker:
I've watched The Million Dollar Man's "Undertaker" since he used to come to the ring in a fruity giant purple tie. No other wrestler has kept up and steped up his game like the Undertaker, he can still fight like nothing else. ALTHOUGH, I think Batista is still the better fighter IMO and if it were up to me, I think that Batista fights hard and wins back his title. What do I KNOW is going to happen? WWE has put Undertaker into another one of those "unbeatable" eras, and I know he will retain the championship.
Beatsauce, I don't know why I agree with most of the things you say. You sir actually know your stuff about good wrestling.
Regal's scowl on that face is priceless. I also have NEVER nor will I ever see a a person do an evil scowl like that again.
I never have been one to be in love with The Hardy's, but I do like watching them. They can put on some good matches. I am really excited about Duece and Domino. D&D make tag team wrestling look ASWESOME!
I was very very very surprised to see Matt Hardy beat Kennedy. WWE must be going somewhere with this or giving Hardy a HUGE ass push. Kennedy is going to be one of the all time greats.
I used to not like MVP at all, but now I am starting to like him more and more. I believe the guy works hard in the ring, he is good on the mic like you say, and he is a good wrestler. He understands how to play a heel.
I hope Undertaker keeps the belt for a very long time. Injury will be the only thing that will have to force him to give up the title. As far as the better fighter between him and Batista we will never know.
Batista does play a good face. The kids love him and the over all face fan will love him.
Very nice points you made, BeatSauce.
:thumbsup:
I agree. The first time I saw D&D I thought "What in the......" But they play the roles very well and deliver some brutus style wrestling back into tag matches since its so over flooded with "high-flyers" these days. I like high-flying action, but if I had to choose I would take sheer bone-snapping power moves any day. Good call on D&D. I agree with the rest of your picks as well.
The advertisments on TV right now are talking about "will Khali be the next champ?" I wonder what thats going to lead up to. Probably a Coachmen decision to have Cena v Khali at an upcoming pay-per-view maybe. The Time of the Patriotic Wigger is over. The Time of the Giants has arrived once more!
Iamforever
Banned
if mvp wins the war with benoit, it should be hello tna chris. go somewhere that you will be respected.
I am thinking that if Khali wins it just may boost the wwe ratings. People will be hating him so bad and wondering who is going to be the person to dethrone Khali of the title.
IAF, I really dont think that WWE is disrespecting Benoit. Sure Benoit is one of the greatest of all time, but remember Benoit is a professional. Being just that he knows he has to help develop and push the younger talent to be built up for tomorrow.
Do I think Benoit should lose the title? No! I like Benoit. He excites me as an in ring wrestler. Pretty boring on the mic though.
MVP, like it or not, will be a big star sometime, if not soon, in the future.
IAF, did you ever see the Rise and Fall of ECW on DVD?
