War, what is it good for?

[Supafly]

Ukraine will join NATO. Do you think they will ever accept any guarantees from Russia? No.

 

[Little Red Wagon Repairman]

Ukraine will join NATO.

We will agree to disagree on that one for sure with one of us eventually being proven right. Ukraine is in a weak negotiating position which becomes weaker by the day. Our stooge Tony Blinken is an empty suit and his boss spends most of his time kicking back in his sarcophagus.

 

[tvstrip]

So while announcement of a peace deal is great...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c93ll522e9no

Israeli air strikes continued after the deal was announced on Wednesday. At least 12 people were killed in Gaza City, where a doctor told the BBC staff "did not rest for one minute" during the "bloody night".
Strikes were carried out on 50 targets in Gaza since the deal's announcement, the Israel Defense Forces and the Israeli Security Agency said in a statement.

Getting as many punches in as possible before the deal takes effect is not good faith.

And that's assuming it's even signed before Sunday.

 

[Supafly]

Gaza - thus, effectively: Hamas - is getting ~6.000 supporters / soldiers back, which means... Onward to prepare October, 6th 2.0.

And as there are rockets flying from Gaza into Israel, Israel would be foolish not to defend itself

 

[tvstrip]

Can we all agree that it would be nice if the ceasefire holds as planned?

 

[Mr. Daystar]

Can we all agree that it would be nice if the ceasefire holds as planned?

It would be great if it held. No one I know that is pro Israel, wants to see war continue.

 

[gmase]

Can we all agree that it would be nice if the ceasefire holds as planned?

Yes, it would very nice. How have the prior ceasefires held up?

The part which is difficult to comprehend is Hamas being cheered by locals. There is a ceasefire now, but their homes and lives were completely destroyed over the past year. The war displaced 90% of the residents and destroyed two-thirds of Gazan structures. Rebuilding will be a nightmare.

 

[tvstrip]

Yes, it would very nice. How have the prior ceasefires held up?

The part which is difficult to comprehend is Hamas being cheered by locals.

I could be wrong, but are they not cheering for Palestine, not Hamas? Or just the ceasefire in general? I didn't hear any "Alu Akbars", just general cheering.

There is a ceasefire now, but their homes and lives were completely destroyed over the past year. The war displaced 90% of the residents and destroyed two-thirds of Gazan structures. Rebuilding will be a nightmare.

Who exactly is footing the bill for that. Pottery Barn rules say "You Break it, you pay for it", but somehow I don't think isreal is getting their chequebooks out.

 

[gmase]

I could be wrong, but are they not cheering for Palestine, not Hamas? Or just the ceasefire in general? I didn't hear any "Alu Akbars", just general cheering.

I noted some articles specifically referenced “Alu Akbar,” but here is a Reuters one noting the cheering of the crowds.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...re-between-israel-hamas-kicks-off-2025-01-19/

Iran called it a victory for the resistance:
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...re-between-israel-hamas-kicks-off-2025-01-19/

Who exactly is footing the bill for that. Pottery Barn rules say "You Break it, you pay for it", but somehow I don't think isreal is getting their chequebooks out.

I would think that Hamas’s supporters would be lining up to rebuild Gaza. Iran should be front and center for providing funding. By invading Israel, Hamas is the proximate cause of the destruction.

 

[tvstrip]

I would think that Hamas’s supporters would be lining up to rebuild Gaza. Iran should be front and center for providing funding. By invading Israel, Hamas is the proximate cause of the destruction.

If isreal was smart (LOL), they would be footing the bill and building up Gaza to 1st world standards. That is how you win over people after a war.
I might have said this before, but look at post-WWII Germany & Japan as great examples.

Bombing Gaza to the stone age ironically makes it ideal for rebuilding modern buildings. There's even the benefit of creating foundations and architecture that make subsequent illicit tunnel building difficult. It even gives isrealis an excuse to be in the area, which would make it harder for rebel groups to rebuild in that area.

All this is of course, hypothetical. Because isreal has no intent on funding the rebuilding efforts.