US Soldier Waterboards 4-Year-Old Daughter For Not Knowing Alphabet

[Facial_King]

I think he was saying that in the sense that his military status had nothing to do with the story itself. Just as in a lot of stories that involve police officers, their profession usually has nothing to do with the story. It's just thrown in there to grab attention and gain readers. I'm willing to bet that if this soldier got a DUI, robbed a bank or stole a car (all situations of which have nothing to do with his military status), the news would still plaster his profession all over the story, just to gain readers.

:2 cents:

Has this guy served in Iraq or Afghanistan? If one looks at the numbers of soldiers returning from those theaters who have been diagnosed as having PTSD, then even saying that this behavior (or the non-violent but wacky stuff, as well) has nothing to do with his being a soldier just doesn't pass the sniff test.

 

[Philbert]

Perhaps he felt that waterboarding - since it was endorsed by his Commander-In-Chief and Cheney (or vice-versa, as one may see things) and described not as torture, but merely as an "enhanced" way of getting needed info - was an acceptable way of getting his incorrigible daughter to fess up??

To proclaim right off that "this has nothing to do with the military or this guy being a soldier" strikes me as more than a little naive.

:dunno:

This post is as lame as it gets, since a sick fuck tormenting a little tiny 4 year old girl is nothing like interrogating a mass murdering terrorist...he wasn't tying to get any info but psychotically punishing her for not performing some common alphabet routine most parents do with their children hundreds of times before they grow up. And without dunking their faces in a bowl of water...
You misspoke and are, as usual, avoiding admitting as much; instead you're putting some stink on Cheney as though he should be found culpable for the horror this little baby went through at the hands of a psycho asshat like Daddy.
You are a bit more than a little naive if you even think that will fly with anyone here...I could be wrong, but most posters are smarter than you think, I guess.
I did say "most".

 

[STDiva]

This post is as lame as it gets, since a sick fuck tormenting a little tiny 4 year old girl is nothing like interrogating a mass murdering terrorist...he wasn't tying to get any info but psychotically punishing her for not performing some common alphabet routine most parents do with their children hundreds of times before they grow up. And without dunking their faces in a bowl of water...
You misspoke and are, as usual, avoiding admitting as much; instead you're putting some stink on Cheney as though he should be found culpable for the horror this little baby went through at the hands of a psycho asshat like Daddy.
You are a bit more than a little naive if you even think that will fly with anyone here...I could be wrong, but most posters are smarter than you think, I guess.
I did say "most".

I'm surprised he didn't rape his daughter too.

 

[Facial_King]

Yep, that pretty much describes your approach to most every subject that you post as a "News Flash", as well...doesn't it?
Like this story, Hellraisin didn't post it as an example of over reaction and misinformation, but as a totally true horror story to rag on the Military and anyone who thinks "waterboarding" isn't ok for interrogating terror suspects.
He has earned his famous summation designation, to whit: "...mostly I think of you as a helmet wearing booger-eater." JS
Waterboarding is a technique using, usually, a hard surface (hence the use of the word "board") and at least 2 guys holding said perp or the perp being restrained before the process begins; then, as i understand it, a towel is placed over the face, and water is poured on the face until the subject begins to experience the terror of drowning. Repeat process after a brief respite...
The sick fuck pushed her little 4 year old face into a bowl of water, terrifying her before contact and after contact with the bowl of water.
According to all the posters who referred to this as Waterboarding, dunking someone in a swimming pool is grounds for school suspension, or arrest for terroristic actions.
Dumping a cooler of Gatorade on a coach after a big win would also qualify as waterboarding, as well.
Unless cooler heads (translation: people who aren't "dumb as a rock" and think about things rationally) prevail and waterboarding is recognized as itself, and dunking someone in a water container is seen as...well, dunking someone in a container of water, pool or bowl all the same, everyone in a pool this coming summer is at risk of arrest and detention for waterboarding!:rofl:
When HorrorDad is put away wherever he belongs, he will be dealt with for child abuse, not using enhanced interrogation techniques.
Not waterboarding...!

Yep, that's what we're saying, Philby. What this dad did to his daughter can't be distinguished from dunking someone in a pool or pouring a beverage on someone.

Your ridiculous hair-splitting over the defintion of waterboarding (good work on the bold-printing of "board"!!! :thumbsup here is fairly sickening. He was using water as part of his abuse. Does it exactly match one of the various types of waterboarding techniques? Maybe not. Was it water torture? Yes.

 

[whoremaker]

Perhaps he felt that waterboarding - since it was endorsed by his Commander-In-Chief and Cheney (or vice-versa, as one may see things) and described not as torture, but merely as an "enhanced" way of getting needed info - was an acceptable way of getting his incorrigible daughter to fess up??

To proclaim right off that "this has nothing to do with the military or this guy being a soldier" strikes me as more than a little naive.

:dunno:

Funny that you would accuse someone of naivete in the same post as you claim that torture was "endorsed" by Bush/Cheney, and also at the same time claim that waterboarding is "torture" when it comes to murderous, insane terrorists. Rather a bit like Jeffrey Dahmer pointing at someone and yelling, "Sicko cannibal!"

Look, so you're a drooling liberal pansy ass conspiracy theorist troglodyte, we all get that. That's your thing. To each their own. But see, there's the bullshit, useless left wing rhetoric you believe, and then there is reality. So take notes, because this is the last time I'll spell this out for you.

1. This guy's actions have absolutely nothing to do with his military background. What you are doing is engaging in the most basic of associative logical fallacies, and drawing conclusions so tenuous they are laughable. No matter how earnestly you try, repeating a falsehood cannot make it true.

2. Waterboarding, while merely a discomforting interrogation technique to an adult terrorist, is most definitely torturous to a four year old child, especially when committed by her own father.

3. This is because the same act can be considered torturous in one instance while not in another. For example; to clueless, smelling-their-own-fart hippies, your empty post is entertaining, while to the rest of us, your hopelessly left tilted drivel is a mild form of torture.

That clear enough for ya, skippy?

 

[whoremaker]

I'm surprised he didn't rape his daughter too.

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me. To be sick enough to dunk your own four year old child's head in water repeatedly as punishment, you're pretty much a sociopathic monster, and those kinds of douchebags rarely have limits. Pretty fucking horrific. The courts should order he be tied up and his daughter get 1000 free kicks to the nuts. Every year on her birthday.

 

[Philbert]

Yep, that's what we're saying, Philby. What this dad did to his daughter can't be distinguished from dunking someone in a pool or pouring a beverage on someone.

Your ridiculous hair-splitting over the defintion of waterboarding (good work on the bold-printing of "board"!!! :thumbsup here is fairly sickening. He was using water as part of his abuse. Does it exactly match one of the various types of waterboarding techniques? Maybe not. Was it water torture? Yes.

What is sickening is your total disregard for the truth...waterboarding is a separate action, nothing like what the crazy Dad did to the little girl.
You misspoke and don't have the class or balls to admit it...simple. Water torture or dirty stinky sock torture is torture and, when done to a child, is the most severe level of child abuse.
NOT waterboarding...leave it to you to try and turn a sad horror story like this into some political rag on Cheney and the military/CIA interrogators.

On another note, whoremaker sure has your number, huh?:rofl::thumbsup:

 

[Facial_King]

Funny that you would accuse someone of naivete in the same post as you claim that torture was "endorsed" by Bush/Cheney, and also at the same time claim that waterboarding is "torture" when it comes to murderous, insane terrorists. Rather a bit like Jeffrey Dahmer pointing at someone and yelling, "Sicko cannibal!"

Look, so you're a drooling liberal pansy ass conspiracy theorist troglodyte, we all get that. That's your thing. To each their own. But see, there's the bullshit, useless left wing rhetoric you believe, and then there is reality. So take notes, because this is the last time I'll spell this out for you.

1. This guy's actions have absolutely nothing to do with his military background. What you are doing is engaging in the most basic of associative logical fallacies, and drawing conclusions so tenuous they are laughable. No matter how earnestly you try, repeating a falsehood cannot make it true.

2. Waterboarding, while merely a discomforting interrogation technique to an adult terrorist, is most definitely torturous to a four year old child, especially when committed by her own father.

3. This is because the same act can be considered torturous in one instance while not in another. For example; to clueless, smelling-their-own-fart hippies, your empty post is entertaining, while to the rest of us, your hopelessly left tilted drivel is a mild form of torture.

That clear enough for ya, skippy?

:bawling:

You called me names.

 

[Namreg]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8505376.stm
http://abcnews.go.com/US/joshua-tabor-accused-waterboarding-young-daughter/story?id=9778116
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7187010/US-soldier-gives-four-year-old-daughter-waterboarding-over-alphabet.html

 

[Legzman]

How could the guy had won the custody of his daughter ?!

he waterboarded the judge too?

 

[Philbert]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8505376.stm
http://abcnews.go.com/US/joshua-tabor-accused-waterboarding-young-daughter/story?id=9778116
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7187010/US-soldier-gives-four-year-old-daughter-waterboarding-over-alphabet.html

Unreal...every article misstates that he "Waterboarded" his little girl, then they backtrack in one case and say there isn't any evidence of running water over her face to make a gag reflex,etc; but he did dunk her in a sink full of hot water, etc...
Other articles show a photo of waterboarding, including a perp on a hard surface and a towel over the face, water poured on the towel to simulate drowning.
No way is a general lameness not being found here, news articles twisting facts for sensationalism and posts twisting facts to make lame political points...no waterboarding here, folks, move along...just the usual child abuse.
And the usual lame fake news posters...

 

[meesterperfect]

Um....okay, so what about this story makes it "anti white, christian, republican or american."???

Oops.

Is there anything specifically white, Christian, Republican, or American about waterboarding or child abuse? Speaking for myself, I don't know what the suspect's skin color, religion, or political affiliation are. (I haven't seen pics or read THAT much about it yet) I'm assuming he's an American.

Actually, what I think is exhibiting of sheep-like behavior is taking a simple-minded "My team hooray, right or wrong" approach. That eliminates the thinking and the principles and just makes it like the dumbest kind of team sport.

:2 cents:

this story has an anti US military theme, which is basically anti US.
I have no my team mentality.
I critisize any group who I think deserves it, and ive taken som heat for it.
but this hellraiser cat, if they named a street after him it would be called ONE WAY.

 

[Namreg]

this story has an anti US military theme, which is basically anti US.
I have no my team mentality.
I critisize any group who I think deserves it, and ive taken som heat for it.
but this hellraiser cat, if they named a street after him it would be called ONE WAY.

why is this story anti-US? is one not allowed to report bad things that happen in the US? one is only allowed to report good news? like in soviet russia?

and what is wrong with being anti-military? all decent people are.

 

[meesterperfect]

dude the story has an ULTERIOR MOTIVE.
its not about bad news in the US, its just a hidden way to trash the US military, you know, the guys we owe our freedom to, the guys who are at this moment in haiti ripping people out of rubble because their own government wont do shit.
thats all this story is, more propaganda to increase the guilt ridden self loathing mentality of those naive enough to fall for it.

all descent people are anti military? c'mon namreg you dont believe that.

 

[PirateKing]

this story has an anti US military theme, which is basically anti US.
I have no my team mentality.
I critisize any group who I think deserves it, and ive taken som heat for it.
but this hellraiser cat, if they named a street after him it would be called ONE WAY.

to be fair, you are the political antithesis of hellraiser. One could say that you are also a one way sign.:dunno:not taking sides, just sayin. I happen to think that the judge ruled in favor of the father to have custody because he was an army vet. I guess the aim of this thread is to elucidate that even people who serve in the military have their faults.

 

[Namreg]

so they paid a guy to pretend to drown his daughter so they could report bad news? wow, you are paranoid.

 

[Philbert]

why is this story anti-US? 1] is one not allowed to report bad things that happen in the US? 2] one is only allowed to report good news? like in soviet russia?

and what is wrong with being anti-military? 3] all decent people are.

1] No.
2] Yes, and don't look now, but there is no Soviet Union anymore, just totalitarian governments like N Korea and Red China.
3] Decent people support the military, as their sons and daughters make up the entire military. Anyway, you shouldn't confuse your being a hater with being a decent person...you don't have that problem (decency).

 

[meesterperfect]

to be fair, you are the political antithesis of hellraiser. One could say that you are also a one way sign.:dunno:not taking sides, just sayin.

no I'm not, I'm fair and balanced!
I bust on everybody
Here I'll do it right now:
White people should stay off the dance floor, or just stick to your faggity polkas and waltzes.
hows that?

so they paid a guy to pretend to drown his daughter so they could report bad news? wow, you are paranoid.

there you go, he drowned her, he dunked her head in water, sick shit but thats not waterboarding.
So why did the story use the term waterboarding?

 

[PirateKing]

no I'm not, I'm fair and balanced!
I bust on everybody
Here I'll do it right now:
White people should stay off the dance floor, or just stick to your faggity polkas and waltzes.
hows that?

:nono:now thats just racist. I'm a Caucasian american and I happen to dance well. You are clearly a one way sign....

 

[Alyssa Rose]

Has been employed by military and OGA. Some military servicemen are subject to it as well as a part of training.:2 cents:

Him being a soldier may not have any bearing on his abuse of his daughter but it's pretty far-fetched to think the fact that he is a soldier wouldn't be mentioned under the circumstances.

Well its obviously going to be mentioned because like chef said it brings readers in but even if he was 'trained' in 'waterboarding' it still has nothing to do with him being a soldier, if you google 'waterboarding' you get an in depth step by step on what it is and how to execute it so any regular ol person could use the method just as easily as a soldier, and rest assured had it been a civilian who used the 'waterboarding' method headlines would not only read MAN (instead of his profession) but also 'dunks daughters head in water' (instead of waterboarding)

Perhaps he felt that waterboarding - since it was endorsed by his Commander-In-Chief and Cheney (or vice-versa, as one may see things) and described not as torture, but merely as an "enhanced" way of getting needed info - was an acceptable way of getting his incorrigible daughter to fess up??

To proclaim right off that "this has nothing to do with the military or this guy being a soldier" strikes me as more than a little naive.

:dunno:

Right. It doesn't matter whats endorsed by who, you are mentally unstable if you dunk your childs head under water. I can assure you any one who taught or has learned the 'waterboarding method' realizes that when your dealing with a terrorist its a little bit of a different situation then when your dealing with your 4 year old child don't you think?

It's a little naive to just push blame on the military instead of making this guy take responsibility for HIS actions, because no body made him do what he did.

I think he was saying that in the sense that his military status had nothing to do with the story itself. Just as in a lot of stories that involve police officers, their profession usually has nothing to do with the story. It's just thrown in there to grab attention and gain readers. I'm willing to bet that if this soldier got a DUI, robbed a bank or stole a car (all situations of which have nothing to do with his military status), the news would still plaster his profession all over the story, just to gain readers.

:2 cents:

Exactly.

Has this guy served in Iraq or Afghanistan? If one looks at the numbers of soldiers returning from those theaters who have been diagnosed as having PTSD, then even saying that this behavior (or the non-violent but wacky stuff, as well) has nothing to do with his being a soldier just doesn't pass the sniff test.

Somehow I knew PTSD was going to be brought into this. PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder just in case you didn't know) is not just something that affects soldiers FYI. This little girl could very well end up herself with PTSD. If something traumatic happens to you that is life altering you can end up with PTSD. My brother found my mom blue in the face dead at 15 years old and HE has PTSD. So maybe this guy does have it, but whos to say its from Iraq and not that time that his uncle bobby raped him? You get what I am saying? The war is a really fucked up thing to see and it scars a lot of guys but you know what, really fucked up things happen everyday a lot closer to home that can scar people just as bad. So again you attempt to turn this into the military's fault doesn't make much sense. :2 cents: