UN votes for air strikes on Libya as Gaddafi warns of reprisals if West attacks
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emceeemcee
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1. Overthrow former 'friendly' dictator who has now fallen out of favor
2. Prop up new ruling faction which gives the west what it wants and rules with an iron fist
3. Suffer blowback from propping up said faction
4. Repeat steps 1 - 4
2. Prop up new ruling faction which gives the west what it wants and rules with an iron fist
3. Suffer blowback from propping up said faction
4. Repeat steps 1 - 4
emceeemcee
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FrostyBoy
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Now wait a minute. When we get involved over oil, everybody wrings their hands and pisses their pants. Now that we're not getting involved over oil, everybody is wringing their hands and pissing their pants.
How's about picking a script and staying with it?
On the ground in Benghazi
Cruise strike hits Gaddafi: 'We will not stand by and let this dictator murder his own people'
* RAF Tornado jets launch 3,000-mile missile assault from Norfolk
* Cameron says 'what we are doing is necessary, legal and right'
* 112 Tomahawk missiles fired at Libyan air-defence by coalition troops
* Several loud explosions heard in Tripoli and fire seen on horizon
* Gaddafi vows to defend his country from 'crusader aggression'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...let-dictator-murder-people.html#ixzz1H889d9FV
A U.S. Air Force AWACS surveillance aircraft comes in to land at an RAF base in Cyprus earlier this morning
3D graphic showing how cruise missiles find their target
At war: The U.S. navy Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer launches a Tomahawk missile at Libyan air defences in Operation Odyssey Dawn
Cruise strike hits Gaddafi: 'We will not stand by and let this dictator murder his own people'
* RAF Tornado jets launch 3,000-mile missile assault from Norfolk
* Cameron says 'what we are doing is necessary, legal and right'
* 112 Tomahawk missiles fired at Libyan air-defence by coalition troops
* Several loud explosions heard in Tripoli and fire seen on horizon
* Gaddafi vows to defend his country from 'crusader aggression'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...let-dictator-murder-people.html#ixzz1H889d9FV
A U.S. Air Force AWACS surveillance aircraft comes in to land at an RAF base in Cyprus earlier this morning
3D graphic showing how cruise missiles find their target
At war: The U.S. navy Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer launches a Tomahawk missile at Libyan air defences in Operation Odyssey Dawn
My poor opinion
Crusaders ((They r saying they fight 4 morals and equity and justice ...etc but they do it 4 there own interest petrol regional domenation..etc))....I wasnt supporting Kaazzafi
but when the US and west interfered I dont want them in our countries
they are same as Muslim brotherhood Qadaa..etc just looking for there own interest useing Islam
USA and the west look for there own interest useing democeracy ((Iraq -Afghan-....etc))
So the stupid western leaders have successfully gained alot of enemies and make alot of nutral arabian people ((me included)) turn against them and converted them 2 support kazzafi
Crusaders ((They r saying they fight 4 morals and equity and justice ...etc but they do it 4 there own interest petrol regional domenation..etc))....I wasnt supporting Kaazzafi
but when the US and west interfered I dont want them in our countries
they are same as Muslim brotherhood Qadaa..etc just looking for there own interest useing Islam
USA and the west look for there own interest useing democeracy ((Iraq -Afghan-....etc))
So the stupid western leaders have successfully gained alot of enemies and make alot of nutral arabian people ((me included)) turn against them and converted them 2 support kazzafi
emceeemcee
Banned
Gaddafi threatens with the shot-down of holiday/tourist civil airplanes ...I just saw in German news-channel N-tv .
That´s not the 1st. time he did, so I just hope the allied forces will BREAK HIS NECK !
@timon : You like to talk bullshit, don´t you ?
Gaddafi is a goddamm TERRORIST + KILLER and MURDER`s his own citizens, and Libya does NOT produce SO MUCH oil, that it´s able to attack the economy of the west . So I bet my azz it´s not very interesting if they continue with their oil-production or a sack of rice is falling down the truck in China. Both of it won´t hurt us.
But maybe it´s interesting to help the citizens of Libya stop suffering and get back their money Gaddafi owns them from his private bank-accounts.
That´s not the 1st. time he did, so I just hope the allied forces will BREAK HIS NECK !
@timon : You like to talk bullshit, don´t you ?
Gaddafi is a goddamm TERRORIST + KILLER and MURDER`s his own citizens, and Libya does NOT produce SO MUCH oil, that it´s able to attack the economy of the west . So I bet my azz it´s not very interesting if they continue with their oil-production or a sack of rice is falling down the truck in China. Both of it won´t hurt us.
But maybe it´s interesting to help the citizens of Libya stop suffering and get back their money Gaddafi owns them from his private bank-accounts.
((Sry 4 my bad eng ))
And the libyan people are nomads.. In schools, 15 years old student can do the Removal and installation of the RPG and AK-47 like marines not just useing it or fireing with it......so its not an un-armed or peacfull revolution
If he is killing his own people how possibley did he re capture 4 - 5 major cities in less than 2 weeks dont say they are Mercenaries ((cuz here in egypt when mubark used camals and horses and all sorts of Mercenaries when an unarmed people didnt fear them and they attacked them the Mercenaries ran away)) bec Mercenaries dont have faith and they dont belive in wt they r fighting 4
for the libyan oil r u serious mate !!! If u do..... better check these links
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libya just the last line in the intro parag
(((Libya has the highest HDI in Africa and the fourth highest GDP (PPP) per capita in Africa as of 2009, behind Seychelles, Equatorial Guinea and Gabon. These are largely due to its large petroleum reserves and low population.[5][6] Libya is one of the world's 10 richest oil-producing countries)))
- http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12784532
((((Brent crude earlier rose above $117 a barrel after the resolution, but suddenly dropped more than $3 to around $113 a barrel after Libya declared an immediate ceasefire.)))
So it effects u dude so please read the mind of ur leader clearly CUZ they are the same as Qada
1 say we fight to protect islam
1 say we fight to protect citizens
both protect there own eco interest
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Some of the mercenaries who were killed in the Battle of Benghazi [19/03/2011]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bWTEgd6NPc&feature=player_embedded
Some of the mercenaries who were killed in the Battle of Benghazi [19/03/2011]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bWTEgd6NPc&feature=player_embedded
Ofcurse he is useing them but wt about there ratios
i would say 25% to 75%
Btw and some of them are not totaly mercenaries ...they are from african countries which supports and they are Kazzafi allies
Like when the SAS do special ops 4 the USA they are nt mercenaries they r helping there ally when he needed them
I only linked the video I didn't comment on it. Using mercenaries though does suggest you don't have enough of your own people to fight for you, not a great advert for someone who says he is good for the Libyan people, and paying them in US dollars
If Gaddafi spent more of his vast wealth on his people they wouldn't be angry and rise up, here is what he spends his money on:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...-Italian-girls-convert-Islam-Rome-summit.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...n-party-Clio-Evans-meeting-Libyan-leader.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208434/Gaddafi-son-buys-10m-Hampstead-mansion.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...is-mountain-lair-trashed-defiant-Libyans.html
Ulysses31
though does suggest you don't have enough of your own people to fight for you, not a great advert for someone who says he is good for the Libyan people, and paying them in US dollars
Ulysses31
Sry dude didnt get ur point
could u explain it in diff way !
If he really had the Libyan people behind him he would have 1000s of soldiers ready to die for him, he wouldn't need to pay men from other countries to come and fight for him. This shows you the people are unhappy with him, Libya has 6.5m people yet are the streets full of people defending their leader, no. He has made a lot of money from the west and spends it on himself like he is a living God, he is not Allah. I've said before Timon the Arabs should sort this out themselves but because there are so many dictatorships no one wants to rock the boat as they could be next, Arabs should help their fellow people not Europeans, we don't want to be there but we can't stand by and watch people get murdered in cold blood, it's against western principles. No one is trying to overthrow Gaddafi, he needs to listen to his people and stop living like he is Allah, he is just a man with a stranglehold over the Libyan people.
Totaly agree ..but 4 this point why do USA use England in its major wars !!
that is wt are allies meant for
Secondly I am against the external interfernce which I am sure not for the people of libya but 2 control another major petrol player in the world top list players .
I agree that no foreign troops should set foot in Libya, only independant UN peacekeepers if necessary. I don't think the US led this, the UN passed the resolution and they waited a long time (nearly a month) before they acted but Gaddafi kept killing more and more of his own people. If a father knows his children are unhappy with him does he just beat them until they are too scared to stand up to him or does he ask them what is the problem and after listening does something to resolve the problem? Gaddafi had a month, he could have met rebel leaders and promised reforms and measures to deal with the problems faced by ordinary Libyans, instead he just killed and killed because he was scared of losing his wealth and female body guards, he puts on a big expensive party for beautiful Italian women whilst his own people starve
Trust me Timon the west didn't want this, we don't have the money or the men and most have secret trade deals with Gaddafi but Gaddafi kept pushing and pushing and carried on the murders so he needed to be stopped, we fucked up in Zimbabwe and Rwanda but not again. I hope in the future all Arab states can become democracies (partial at least) where all the poor are looked after and they can then look after themselves and each other and not need the west to some and protect them. Arab countries are the richest in the world but only the people at the top get all the money, Japan is a rich country and all people are looked after, there should be NO poverty in oil rich Arab countries.RAF strikes against Gaddafi's forces branded 'a success' as bombed out tanks and cars litter the roads near Benghazi
* RAF Tornado jets launch 3,000-mile missile assault from Norfolk
* 94 people reported to have died in Gaddafi's strike on Benghazi
* Gaddafi says he will not leave and people should defend the capital
* Cameron says 'what we are doing is necessary, legal and right'
* Chancellor says no ground troop invasion on the cars 'at the moment'
* Three US B-2 stealth bombers dropped 40 bombs on Libyan airfields
* 112 Tomahawk missiles fired at Libyan air-defence by coalition troops
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nch-missile-attack-Gaddafi.html#ixzz1H99ju2QP
A bombed out tank hit in what is believed to have been a French airstrike
Rebel fighters soon arrived at the scene of the bombings
A huge explosion follows a direct hit while a rebel fighter shows official government documents found at the scene of an attack
Vehicles belonging to forces loyal to Gaddafi burn after the air strike by coalition forces on a road between Benghazi and Ajdabiyah
A rebel fighter makes a victory as he walks amid the aftermath of an allied attack on pro-government forces
A Libyan man holds ammunition gathered from the bodies of Gaddafi loyalists
The charred remains of cars belonging to dozens of Gaddafi loyalists litter the sides of roads on the outskirts of Benghazi
A rebel fighter looks at burning vehicles belonging to Gaddafi forces
* RAF Tornado jets launch 3,000-mile missile assault from Norfolk
* 94 people reported to have died in Gaddafi's strike on Benghazi
* Gaddafi says he will not leave and people should defend the capital
* Cameron says 'what we are doing is necessary, legal and right'
* Chancellor says no ground troop invasion on the cars 'at the moment'
* Three US B-2 stealth bombers dropped 40 bombs on Libyan airfields
* 112 Tomahawk missiles fired at Libyan air-defence by coalition troops
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nch-missile-attack-Gaddafi.html#ixzz1H99ju2QP
A bombed out tank hit in what is believed to have been a French airstrike
Rebel fighters soon arrived at the scene of the bombings
A huge explosion follows a direct hit while a rebel fighter shows official government documents found at the scene of an attack
Vehicles belonging to forces loyal to Gaddafi burn after the air strike by coalition forces on a road between Benghazi and Ajdabiyah
A rebel fighter makes a victory as he walks amid the aftermath of an allied attack on pro-government forces
A Libyan man holds ammunition gathered from the bodies of Gaddafi loyalists
The charred remains of cars belonging to dozens of Gaddafi loyalists litter the sides of roads on the outskirts of Benghazi
A rebel fighter looks at burning vehicles belonging to Gaddafi forces
@Timon : you´re talkin bullshit again. Libya is on rank 18 of all oil-producing countries in the world :
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_pro-energy-oil-production
So Libya is NOT INTERESTING for the west .
And I mentioned, that Gaddafi made the statement, to shoot -down civil/tourist airplanes over Libya . I think you did NOT ( want ) to notice this. For this statement ALONE I wish him a cruise-missile right into his azz !
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_oil_pro-energy-oil-production
So Libya is NOT INTERESTING for the west .
And I mentioned, that Gaddafi made the statement, to shoot -down civil/tourist airplanes over Libya . I think you did NOT ( want ) to notice this. For this statement ALONE I wish him a cruise-missile right into his azz !
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