yes I know that saschaxx but the US has already agreed to go in under the guise of "humanitarian aide" and if you believe that the US will stay in the background on their hands then I got a condo I want to sell you in another universe, the US should not be going in but apparently the UN makes decisions for the US, not the US government, this is insane, the US cannot continue to sustain this type of outreached military buildup around the world
UN votes for air strikes on Libya as Gaddafi warns of reprisals if West attacks
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The truth is the other Arab states should step up and take care of problems in their own region, however because they are full of dictatorships no one wants to rock the boat, if Gaddafi falls why not then Saudi Arabia and Bahrain. I don't believe the US will meddle in this one, they have neither the resources and will face opposition from Russia and China. The French should take the lead here and I have no problem pulling British troops out of Afghanistan and sending them to Libya where the masses would welcome them with open arms and not plant IEDs all over the place like the ungrateful Afghans do. There should be a UN peacekeeping force, not any sole nations military. I respect the French and the Germans for not getting involved in that farce of the Iraq war so would trust their intentions, think the Germans should should have helped the French on this one though.
Celebration: A woman fires into the air after the UN agreed to air strikes against Gadaffi
Thanks: A Libyan woman holds a placard hailing French President Nicolas Sarkozy after a UN vote, led by France and Britain, approved a no-fly zone
Well said @Ulysses31.:hatsoff::hatsoff:
Especially thisone :
*The truth is the other Arab states should step up and take care of problems in their own region, however because they are full of dictatorships no one wants to rock the boat, if Gaddafi falls why not then Saudi Arabia and Bahrain.*
Especially thisone :
*The truth is the other Arab states should step up and take care of problems in their own region, however because they are full of dictatorships no one wants to rock the boat, if Gaddafi falls why not then Saudi Arabia and Bahrain.*
......* think the Germans should should have helped the French on this one though. *
Through * the backdoor * we do so , ...we offered to fly the AWAC`S over Afghanistan so other troops can move to Libya ...
And if the *legion etrangere`* will join the combat ...( what we possibly never will know ) ...a lot of Germans are part of it . Some 35 years ago the ol General + Pres. of France, Mr. Charles DeGaulle made a statement right in front of the *legion* ...he startet with the words : * Mes amis allemandes * ...( my German friends ) .
Through * the backdoor * we do so , ...we offered to fly the AWAC`S over Afghanistan so other troops can move to Libya ...
And if the *legion etrangere`* will join the combat ...( what we possibly never will know ) ...a lot of Germans are part of it . Some 35 years ago the ol General + Pres. of France, Mr. Charles DeGaulle made a statement right in front of the *legion* ...he startet with the words : * Mes amis allemandes * ...( my German friends ) .
Wouldn't you prefer German troops to leave Afghanistan and either come home or be part of this Libyan effort, Afghanistan has its own govt so let them build their own army
And ( hopefully ) Libya will have it´s own ( democratic ) govt. soon too . The problem in Afghanistan is ( my pov ) :
The Taliban + Osama bin bullshit !
And ( hopefully ) Libya will have it´s own ( democratic ) govt. soon too . The problem in Afghanistan is ( my pov ) :
The Taliban + Osama bin bullshit !
The problem is a lot of the Afghans want the Taliban and their strict religious laws, I wouldn't confuse them with Bin Laden (most likely dead) and his Al-Qeada terrorist group. And Taliban can just cross the border and hide in Pakistan and we can't touch them and then cross back to attack. The Karzai govt just controls some big cities whilst the rest of Afghanistan is under tribal control and always will be, we need to leave the Taliban alone (they have lots of support) and go for Al-Qeada who are dangerous to the west. When the Afghans get sick of the Taliban they can get rid of them themselves, that won't happen as whilst we're there they want us to do everything, why can't they be self relient like the Japanese?
@Ulysses : Okidoki, if they *want* them, they may have them, ...but also *keep* them on their own territory .
Hopefully this Osama is dead already ...but who knows ??
I really know about the religious problems in this area, ..I´m almost 57 and I was sailing for about 9 years on heavylift-liners + ULCC´S in this part of the planet, ...and had a lot of problems down there . Almost everyone´s corrupted ...
Ppl. may believe in whatever they want, but better keep their believes + religions in THEIR COUNTRIES and NOT getting missionary to nations who don´t want their bullshit !
But this thread is about Libya ...
Hopefully this Osama is dead already ...but who knows ??
I really know about the religious problems in this area, ..I´m almost 57 and I was sailing for about 9 years on heavylift-liners + ULCC´S in this part of the planet, ...and had a lot of problems down there . Almost everyone´s corrupted ...
Ppl. may believe in whatever they want, but better keep their believes + religions in THEIR COUNTRIES and NOT getting missionary to nations who don´t want their bullshit !
But this thread is about Libya ...
French military jet opens fire in Libya
A French plane has fired the first shots in Libya as enforcement of the UN-mandated no-fly zone begins. The target was a military vehicle, the French defence ministry said.
'The French plane fired the first shot in Libya at 1645 GMT and destroyed its target, according to a military spokesman.'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12795971
A French plane has fired the first shots in Libya as enforcement of the UN-mandated no-fly zone begins. The target was a military vehicle, the French defence ministry said.
'The French plane fired the first shot in Libya at 1645 GMT and destroyed its target, according to a military spokesman.'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12795971
It was a very nice move on the part of the USA for them to declare involvement with equipment, but not ground troops, and then, on the eve of operations beginning, to see Obama and family leave for vacation. It sent a good message - Yes, the U.S. is involved, but it is to a limited capacity, and the commander and chief is not going to be the one calling the shots.
The message sent is that the U.S. acknowledges that something has to happen, that they will commit what they are able (and they are unable to commit ground troops), AND that they have faith in the UN allies' ability to get the job done.
A foreign policy about war that was carefully, thoughtfully, and tactfully handled. Haven't seen that for about 10 years...
The message sent is that the U.S. acknowledges that something has to happen, that they will commit what they are able (and they are unable to commit ground troops), AND that they have faith in the UN allies' ability to get the job done.
A foreign policy about war that was carefully, thoughtfully, and tactfully handled. Haven't seen that for about 10 years...
FrostyBoy
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This deserves to be repeated. This is exactly how I feel about the situation. Let someone else do the heavy lifting, for a change.
:dito: I wonder how Bush would have responded to this?
Likely a unilateral move into the region with more ground troops about a week ago.
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but never the Khadaffi friendly Italy! :nono:
Aside 1 - I always wonder if it's members of the press who draw up those pickets in english(?)
(^post 42 2nd pic) :1orglaugh
Aside 2 - It is my understanding that France is home to the greatest number of Libyans aside from Libya itself, true? :Continues researching:
I remember vividly when in 1986 when f111 advaarks and f18 a hornets bombed the Khadafi headquarters. I also remember that two tomcats, one flown by Lt Andy Minarski with Dave Venlett and the other flown by Tom Kaczinksi and Cleeman killed a Mig each in the syrian waters back in that day.I think two launch ICBM on khadafi naval,air bases and oil supplies will definitely damage his economy and his credibility. Also bombing relentlessly kadhafi's headquarters with jdam bombs and paveway II bombs will definitely make him think twice before attacking anyone .
Update
More here
Libya Live Blog - March 19
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog-march-19
Channel 4 News
http://www.channel4.com/news/libya-fighting-in-benghazi-despite-gaddafi-ceasefire-claims
More here
Libya Live Blog - March 19
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog-march-19
Channel 4 News
http://www.channel4.com/news/libya-fighting-in-benghazi-despite-gaddafi-ceasefire-claims
Libya: Coalition launches attacks
French Rafale jets flew reconnaissance missions over Libya on Saturday before the bombing began
The UK, the US and France have begun attacking Libya as enforcement of the UN-mandated no-fly zone gets under way.
More than 110 missiles have been fired by the UK and US, officials at the Pentagon say.
UK Prime Minister David Cameron has confirmed that British planes are in action over Libya. Earlier, French planes destroyed Libyan vehicles.
Western planes bombed targets in the capital, Tripoli, said the AFP news agency, quoting witnesses and state TV.
US President Barack Obama, speaking during a visit to Brazil, said the US was taking "limited military action" as part of a "broad coalition".
"We cannot stand idly by when a tyrant tells his people there will be no mercy," he said.
He repeated that no US ground troops would take part.
'Necessary'
A British submarine has fired a number of missiles at Libyan air defence targets, the Ministry of Defence said.
Mr Cameron said that launching military action against Libya was "necessary, legal and right".
Libyan state TV reported that what it called the "crusader enemy" had bombed civilian areas of Tripoli, as well as fuel storage tanks supplying the western city of Misrata.
Sources in Tripoli told BBC Arabic that the attacks on the city had so far targeted the eastern areas of Sawani, Airport Road, and Ghasheer. These are all areas believed to host military bases.
The action came hours after Western and Arab leaders met in Paris to agree how to enforce the UN resolution, which allows "all necessary measures" to protect civilians from forces loyal to Libyan leader Col Muammar Gaddafi.
A French plane fired the first shot in Libya at 1645 GMT on Saturday, destroying its target, according to a military spokesman.
French planes also flew reconnaissance missions over "all Libyan territory", military sources in Paris said earlier.
Pro-Gaddafi forces attacked the rebel stronghold of Benghazi on Saturday - although the Libyan government denied launching any assault.
The international community was intervening to stop the "murderous madness" of Col Gaddafi, French President Nicolas Sarkozy said.
"In Libya, the civilian population, which is demanding nothing more than the right to choose their own destiny, is in mortal danger," he warned. "It is our duty to respond to their anguished appeal."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12796972
Is your age correct in that little pane to the left? I mean, I have allot of fuzzy memories from when I was 7 or 8..but pretty odd for you to remember something like this with such vivid detail if what shows as your age here is correct.:o
Mr. Daystar
In a bell tower, watching you through cross hairs.
Actually, I think a black ops head shot would be a less expensive way to an end result. The fucking guy never learns, he needed to go after Pan Am #800, and those F111 were supposed to teach him a lesson he obviously never learned. We should have just turned the Mossad loose on his sorry ass and saved ourselves a few billion dollars. I also think Tomahawk missiles will do fine...launching ballistic missiles might just be a little excessive. Funny how the French gave us shit back then about using their airspace, and now they're firing the first shot. Maybe they feel bad about selling Japan all of that plutonium.
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