UK General Election Thread!

[Baill Inneraora]

There was no substantive evidence, which is why most of the country opposed it. Labour got whipped into following it because of Blair's threat it could bring down the government, and the Conservatives didn't want to appear weak.

They should have turned when Robin Cook (RIP) came out and said in as polite terms as he could muster, that it was all bullshit.



The Lib Dems ranged from requiring multilateral UN agreement in the form of a second resolution (which we never got) to opposing it outright.

Wow! Mr Cook was spot on.








(I think that's how you all say it over there.)

 

[Ulysses31]

There was no substantive evidence, which is why most of the country opposed it. Labour got whipped into following it because of Blair's threat it could bring down the government, and the Conservatives didn't want to appear weak.

They should have turned when Robin Cook (RIP) came out and said in as polite terms as he could muster, that it was all bullshit.



The Lib Dems ranged from requiring multilateral UN agreement in the form of a second resolution (which we never got) to opposing it outright.

Well he was right and the war against Saddams army was over quickly. However there was no plan to deal with the militant Shia and Sunni militias. Now the coalition just let them wipe each other out whilst their troops hide in the safe Green Zone. Robin Cook must've felt undermined being Foreign Secretary yet having pressure to push the case for this war, probably led to his ill health and death. The only guy I ever see smiling all the time is Tony Blair.

 

[Supafly]

People are scared of change, they somehow equate joining the EU to losing WW2. The politicians know we can only survive economically and politically (esp Foreign Policy) by joining the EU which is why none of the major parties are campaigning to pull out. Also the newspapers do a lot of scaremongering about EU legislation adversely affecting us as they know these stories will help them shift their newspapers.

Well, for one thing... the European Union and the Euro as currency did Germany for one very well, for a long time. We were exporting like hell and making a big profit - at least the companies did. The workers went downhill, financially, and lost a lot of their rights, too.

Now that the 'PIIGS' states are finally coming out of the closet about their fucked up national budgets, things are crumbling fast.

This weekend, the Free Democratic Party (The Liberals) had their party congress, and at least the are thinking about maybe Germany moving out of the European Union, now shit hits the fan and we have to push some 8.400.000.000 Euros to save them, it seems.

Not paying is not really an option - because the recently nationalized Hypo Real Estate and other german banks have some 45.000.000.000 Euros invested in Greece.

So it's throwing away the 8.4 or playing raising the stakes and hope for the best.

I think that not being in the EU might actually be the better way, after all...

 

[BlueBalls]

To my surprise I walked passed someone handing out leaflets for the National Front today:1orglaugh. You had to laugh - especially as the guy looked like someone who wasn't even qualified to be a competent football hooligan. let alone to engage in any form of political discourse. I had actually all but assumed they had died out when the BNP rose to prominence. I guess some people just can't give up the old rhetoric. Or at least they can't hide it as well as the BNP do.

 

[Ulysses31]

To my surprise I walked passed someone handing out leaflets for the National Front today:1orglaugh. You had to laugh - especially as the guy looked like someone who wasn't even qualified to be a competent football hooligan. let alone to engage in any form of political discourse. I had actually all but assumed they had died out when the BNP rose to prominence. I guess some people just can't give up the old rhetoric. Or at least they can't hide it as well as the BNP do.

Don't worry, Nick Griffin has already slipped up!

http://www.londonwired.co.uk/articles.php/54760-BNP-leader-Griffin-compares-east-London-to-Nairobi

http://www.birminghamwired.co.uk/ar...der-Nick-Griffin-criticised-for-Haiti-remarks

 

[tartanterrier]

To get my vote my test to the candidates would be to get them in
a room together and throw in a hand grenade,and see what one
makes the right move :thefinger

I think that is fair in todays society

 

[BlueBalls]

Don't worry, Nick Griffin has already slipped up!

http://www.londonwired.co.uk/articles.php/54760-BNP-leader-Griffin-compares-east-London-to-Nairobi

http://www.birminghamwired.co.uk/ar...der-Nick-Griffin-criticised-for-Haiti-remarks

:1orglaugh It's good to see that old NF spirit in him boil up and come out every now and again. It keeps him and his party exactly where they should be; as the Newspeak (to borrow an Orwellian phrase) National Front.

To get my vote my test to the candidates would be to get them in
a room together and throw in a hand grenade,and see what one
makes the right move :thefinger

I think that is fair in todays society

Can I ask what the "right move" would be in that situation? I'm guessing it's the one who hides behind the other two, right?

Or is this one of those "the only good politician is a dead politician" kind of things?

I'm guessing the latter.

 

[tartanterrier]

Can I ask what the "right move" would be in that situation? I'm guessing it's the one who hides behind the other two, right?

Or is this one of those "the only good politician is a dead politician" kind of things?

I'm guessing the latter.

Well it depends on what the room had.I would have a window in it and
nothing else,then let them decide to see whos turn it was to throw it
out

That would be interesting

 

[mrtrebus]

Vote CURE!
http://www.votecure.com/vote/?p=1

 

[mrtrebus]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/scotland/8648425.stm
Good.

 

[BlueBalls]

A nice little questionnaire sort of like the one DreamSparrow posted previously.
http://www.votematch.org.uk/

More for the on the fence voter. But still, it's a waste of a couple of minutes of your life, so why not.

 

[mrtrebus]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8655379.stm?ls

 

[larss]

OMG is this still news. Brown is a plonker. End of story.

 

[tartanterrier]

I'm voting SNP :wave2:

 

[mrtrebus]

I'm voting SNP :wave2:

:rofl:

 

[mrtrebus]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8654338.stm

 

[larss]

I'm voting SNP :wave2:

I almost wish I could.

 

[mrtrebus]

I almost wish I could.

:nono:

 

[larss]

:nono:

I did say almost!
Cameron's the man for me. I'm afraid that Clegg is another pretty boy with a good line in talk just like Blair was - all talk and no trousers.

 

[om3ga]

OMG is this still news. Brown is a plonker. End of story.

More like "end of Brown"....