BNP loses all 12 seats in Barking and Dagenham council
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BNP loses all 12 seats in Barking and Dagenham council
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/england/8668885.stm
BNP getting the boot was the best news of the night - along with ex-Porn Secretary Jacqui Smith getting her P45, and Caroline Lucas becoming the UK's first Green party MP...:thumbsup:
Well the British people have sent the following message to our dishonourable members:
:thefinger
Serves them right...
Great news. The bankers and greedy MPs (of all colours and ethnicities) are the most to blame for this crippling financial crisis but the BNP as usual solely blame the immigrants, they don't even talk about economic recovery at a time when we're in recession! It seems the public have punished everyone in this election, lost labour their majority, left the conservatives agonisingly short of being clear winners and kept the Lib Dems where they are. Now they (politicians) are all stressed not knowing who will be in power and running around trying to make deals and the financiers are also stressed as the markets are all over the place because of all the uncertainty about the future government, quite fun watching then squirm, if only for a short while.
Listening to the news it sounds as though the Tories can buy off the LibDems at two levels. Either get them to join them or if that seems too distastful to the LibDem activists then get them not to stand in their way by abstaining on certain issues.
Isn't the problem there that they'd need support from some others too? Or would they be able to count on, for example, the SNP to go along with reforms?
SNP are very hostile towards the Tories so that won't be a problem. Maybe Brown should offer a public referendum on Proportional Representation so we ultimately decide and not them through some power sharing deals, apparently in Proportional Representation the Tories would lose most their seats and may never win an election again so I don't see them giving this to the Lib Dems. This will be interesting though.
But not in votes cast.Bearing in mind that a Tory vote is a wasted vote in much of Scotland, there were still nearly as many voted Tory as SNP or LibDem.It just takes 413 000 Tory votes to elect an MP but only 25 000 Labour votes will get a Labour MP.
Under a pure UK wide PR system the seats would have been something like:
Cons 234
Lab 188
Lib 149
UKIP 20
BNP 12
SNP 11
Green 6
DUP 4
SF 4
PC 4
SDLP 2
UCU 2
All 1
ED 1
I know this would be different if we all knew that we were voting under that system as there would be no tactical voting so the smaller parties would have got even more and the big parties fewer but it shows why the Tories are so scared of it.
Cons 234
Lab 188
Lib 149
UKIP 20
BNP 12
SNP 11
Green 6
DUP 4
SF 4
PC 4
SDLP 2
UCU 2
All 1
ED 1
I know this would be different if we all knew that we were voting under that system as there would be no tactical voting so the smaller parties would have got even more and the big parties fewer but it shows why the Tories are so scared of it.
Only 3 out of 30 of the most influential European nations have single party majorities. Balanced parliaments and coalition governments are completely normal.
We've just got used to artificial majorities in the Commons who dictate to a public that didn't even vote for them for the most part.
That caveat definitely applies, but also, no-one actually advocates pure proportional representation. The Liberal Democrats want Single Transferable Vote, and Labour want Alternative Vote (not a form of PR at all).
I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Cameron does give in and offer a referendum on electoral reform. He should realise that the genie is out of the bottle, and some form of electoral reform will happen - either during this government or the next cycle of governments. He should take the initiative, accept electoral reform, and use Lib Dem support to push his other plans through.
Either way something is going to happen, we don't have the luxury of time to spare before having a settled government and this puts Clegg in pole position.If he helps the Tories the world financial markets will breathe a sigh of relief and our economic situation might just ease a little.We are apparently in as bad a situation as Greece; thankfully we aren't in the Euro so have some room to manoevre.
I just heard an old tory guy on the radio say that Lord Ashcroft is fuming as he had assumed that his funding of the campaign would produce a tory majority :rofl::rofl::rofl:
Some serious political discussion:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00s9c9g/Russell_Howards_Good_News_Series_2_Episode_7/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00s9c9g/Russell_Howards_Good_News_Series_2_Episode_7/
I just don't see the need to panic. The world financial markets are not waiting with baited breath for the outcome of these negotiations. They're far more concerned with events in Greece, and how Eurozone countries react to it.
Standards and Poor's have explicitly said as much following the outcome of the election. So long as we produce a satisfactory medium term fiscal strategy, things should be fine.
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