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[LaLiLuLeLohan]

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Why do so many people assume all black people use the N word? I've met so many black people throughout my life and I've never heard any of them once use the N-word, just because a few dumb rappers or street gangsters use it doesn't mean it's socially acceptable for all black people to use it amongst themselves, most of the black people I know would be embarassed or even angry if they heard another black person use it. That's just a UK perpective.

Yeah, but you don't live in America. I've known many Black people who don't use it regularly or don't use it at all. And I know/have known a great deal who use it the way some people use "dude" or "man". I know/knew a lot of Puerto Ricans who used it too. This wasn't invented by hip-hop. Go listen to some old Redd Foxx or Richard Pryor. It goes back a long time.

In high school I had Black friends who would call me "*****". It was just habit. These friends weren't "gangstas" or what have you. It was just a normal thing. At the same time, I saw the mom of one on my Black friends smack him upside the head because he said it. That was a no-no in her house. Especially in front of company. But it really isn't just some assumption or stereotype that it's commonly said by some.

 

[LaLiLuLeLohan]

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Well, actually there are limits to free speech. There are things that are illegal to say.

There are no opinions that are illegal to express. Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater or saying that Courtney Love has AIDS when shoes doesn't isn't protected because it's not speech. It's not opinion, expression, belief or theory. It's pretty clear that I wasn't referring to things along those lines.

 

[LaLiLuLeLohan]

Re: U.S. talk show host who used the 'N' word 11 times to a black caller on the air q

Yeah, but you don't live in America. I've known many Black people who don't use it regularly or don't use it at all. And I know/have known a great deal who use it the way some people use "dude" or "man". I know/knew a lot of Puerto Ricans who used it too. This wasn't invented by hip-hop. Go listen to some old Redd Foxx or Richard Pryor. It goes back a long time.

WTF?? There's a fucking porn star named Redd. Foxx???

 

[Ulysses31]

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WTF?? There's a fucking porn star named Redd. Foxx???

Quickly edit it and put an extra space in somewhere to mess up the name association and try to save what little dignity you have left

 

[darkwarrior3007]

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There are no opinions that are illegal to express. Shouting "fire" in a crowded theater or saying that Courtney Love has AIDS when shoes doesn't isn't protected because it's not speech. It's not opinion, expression, belief or theory. It's pretty clear that I wasn't referring to things along those lines.

Well, you could have the opinion that the President should be assassinated but you can't exactly go to the White House, hold a rally and start speaking to the masses about it.

Am I saying that you're saying things along those lines? Absolutely not. I'm just making a point.

 

[nostraludamus]

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Common sense is very uncommon

 

[vodkazvictim]

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There's a HUUUUUGE difference between saying the word '******' as I am, just as part of an intelligent conversation, and using it as a derogatory remark as in "Get away from my daughter, you ******!!!"

****** sez what?
*bends over and waits for mods footprint on rump*

 

[LaLiLuLeLohan]

Re: U.S. talk show host who used the 'N' word 11 times to a black caller on the air q

Well, you could have the opinion that the President should be assassinated but you can't exactly go to the White House, hold a rally and start speaking to the masses about it.

Am I saying that you're saying things along those lines? Absolutely not. I'm just making a point.

No, to my understanding, you can say that publicly. People have openly hoped for his death and prayed for his death. They were probably investigated and they're surely on some list, but I've yet to hear of anybody arrested for expressing their ill wishes for Obama, Bush or whomever.

There were protests in DV with both "Hang Bush" and "Hang Obama" signs. At different times, of course.

Being forbidden to protest at the White House itself is a matter of security and not the surrender of speech.

 

[meesterperfect]

Re: U.S. talk show host who used the 'N' word 11 times to a black caller on the air q

yep...context is what matters...a title like that clearly makes it sound like some sort of racist rant, when it is clearly not.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread604303/pg1




Its ridiculous that any one word can have this much significance and or this many rules as to when or by whom it can be used. This is another case of the few manipulating the masses.

I know many of us (if not most) have been desensitized to porn in general just from viewing 5k+ posts and the wonder of high speed internet. Sure we still run across unpleasant things but we hit the back button 2,3 times and on we go with our day.

I look forward to the day when we become desensitized to words and are able to shrug them off. When as a collective people we can say "enough of the bullshit, GFY and whats for lunch" all in one breath. :horse:


Ill start things off:

mufasa!
voldemort!

:yinyang:


http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread604303/pg1

This is exactly why I have always felt that 99% of people who cry about racism are the ones who truly have a problem with skin color.

Dr. Laura even made it a point to say, live on the air, "Don't take things out of context"...and that's exactly what has happened. She's right and nobody on the face of the earth can argue against that.

Also, the black lady even proved the point that Dr. Laura was making - that white people 'aren't allowed' to say the word '******', but black people are - when she said "I know what the 'n word' means, and I know that a white person said it". This black lady doesn't have a problem with hearing the word '******' - she has a problem with the hearing word '******' when it's said by a white person. Ironically - that's racism.


If black people can get away with saying the word '******' in a non-derogatory manner, then so should white people. Or Asian people. Or Mexican people. Or Indian people. It doesn't matter.

3 people seeing things realistically here.

People gotta lighten the fuck up and stop trying to find racism in everything they possibly can.
And what its turning into is a racism against whites.
Always painting them as the only criminals of racism when thats far from reality.
constantly accusing them of racism when its not the case because theyre white.
That is racism.
Enough,
the medias been doing this since the 80's with tawana brawley and people today are buying into it more than ever.
fuck it, lets just have a race war now and get it over with i guess.

 

[darkwarrior3007]

Re: U.S. talk show host who used the 'N' word 11 times to a black caller on the air q

No, to my understanding, you can say that publicly. People have openly hoped for his death and prayed for his death. They were probably investigated and they're surely on some list, but I've yet to hear of anybody arrested for expressing their ill wishes for Obama, Bush or whomever.

There were protests in DV with both "Hang Bush" and "Hang Obama" signs. At different times, of course.

Being forbidden to protest at the White House itself is a matter of security and not the surrender of speech.

True, but if that opinion now turned speech, incited someone to try and carry out the act then you as the person who set it in motion could possibly be arrested. I only used the White House as an example.

 

[ChefChiTown]

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I have heard numerous answers to that question but only a few to the question I asked. Two to be exact.

Your question is one that has no good answer. It's just like asking "Why do you drink alcohol?" or "Why do you drive above the speed limit?" No matter what my answer is, it's not going to please you, because there is ALWAYS a logical rebuttal for each and every answer you would receive.

But, to answer your question once again, in a different context:

Your question was - Why would white people want to use the word (******) anyway?

I've used the word '******' multiple times in this thread. Was I saying it in a derogatory manner? Nope. Did I call anybody a '******'? Nope. Did I ever come close to using the word '******' in a negative context (with the exception of the example I used as to how it can be used as an insult)? Nope.

So, why would I - a white person - want to use the word '******'? Because that's what this whole entire discussion is about. I want to use the word '******', because I want to. I'm an adult and I'm taking part in an adult conversation. And, personally, I want to use the word '******' because it's just a word. There's nothing wrong with the word itself - only how it's used.

People just need to grow the fuck up and stop focusing on the negatives and being so God damned nitpicky about each and every word that someone says. So Dr. Laura said '******' a few times...so what? I just said '******' more times than she did, so where are all the black people with their complaints about me and my posting? Where are the equal rights activists hounding me with their opinion that I, as a white person, have no 'right' to say the word '******'? Where is Jesse Jackson? Why aren't I getting slammed for saying the word '******' in the same way that Dr. Laura is? Why are the circumstances so different? If we're both 'guilty' of saying the word '******' on numerous occasions, then why is Dr. Laura catching shit for her language...but not me?

Why, you ask? Because...it's not the word that people don't like - it's the people who say it. And, in this case, it's the WHITE people who say it.

Once again, the irony of each and every case like this (where a white person gets in trouble for saying the word '******' in a non-derogatory way), is that the person who says the word '******' is not getting judged by their actions...rather, by the color of their skin. And, what do we call it when someone is being treated differently and held to a different standard for no other reason than the color of their skin?

RACISM

Ahh, good old racism - the true hypocrisy of the world.

:2 cents:

 

[Facial_King]

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She's doing this to play victim - and it'll probably work.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

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Are white Americans the only group of people who use words (labels) to degrade people who are different from them? :dunno:

There's more out there than the N-word. I'm waiting for Faux News and the Tea Baggers to begin using the Mexican slurs in public discourse.

Petra made an interesting point about words having power over us. But, how do we stop/limit that power? My answer: Equality in Education. Hmmm. We don't seem to have that in our education system do we? :dunno:

titties my bro you do realize there is evidence of plants in that movement. They go to the rallies and post off-based rhetoric in the form of signs and interviews - usually racist/racially-based. The Right does it as well however.

 

[bustybbwlover]

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So, why would I - a white person - want to use the word '******'? Because that's what this whole entire discussion is about. I want to use the word '******', because I want to. I'm an adult and I'm taking part in an adult conversation. And, personally, I want to use the word '******' because it's just a word. There's nothing wrong with the word itself - only how it's used.

the word itself has many connotations stemming from it's originally intended use which was a acknowledgment of black inferiority...to say that there is nothing wrong with the word is to pretend there is no history to the word however using the word in conversation (particularly one about the word itself) is perfectly understandable and saying the n-word is downright silly...your 'i want to use the word cuz i want to' bit on the other hand does sound a bit temper tantrumish tho

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

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I always go on Youtube and there are tons of wannabes on there that think it's alright to say "*****" now, regardless of race. I tell them they are off their rocker and if it is alright go to any heavily black populated neighborhood and use the word casually and see how long they are standing.


Ironically, I had a friend who got his bike stolen recently and he ran into the black dude who took it - because he was on it. 'D' confronted him (note this is a relatively an area with lots of blacks) and the black dude said something like "this is my bike *****" to my (white) friend. Anyway, after D tried to attack him and saying "I'm not a ******" the guy just barely got away and D followed after him running down the whole block yelling "get back here you ******!!!" and there were blacks everywhere he told me.

I still can't help but roll my ass off everytime I hear that story and think D is lucky someone didn't at least confront him, but he was chasing a guy who stole his bike and in that context really, REALLY dropping it. He carries a nice sized knife and he's gonna stab that dude next time he sees him. :1orglaugh

Yeah, D's a little off his rocker and even him and I have squabbed in the past. He's not exactly a punk. That also helps if you are gonna drop it - you had better be able to throw down. In fact the toughest guy I ever knew (Irishman) beat up four blacks in one setting after one of them broke a bottle over his head. :glugglug:

 

[Hot Mega]

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I always go on Youtube and there are tons of wannabes on there that think it's alright to say "*****" now, regardless of race. I tell them they are off their rocker and if it is alright go to any heavily black populated neighborhood and use the word casually and see how long they are standing.


Ironically, I had a friend who got his bike stolen recently and he ran into the black dude who took it - because he was on it. 'D' confronted him (note this is a relatively an area with lots of blacks) and the black dude said something like "this is my bike *****" to my (white) friend. Anyway, after D tried to attack him and saying "I'm not a ******" the guy just barely got away and D followed after him running down the whole block yelling "get back here you ******!!!" and there were blacks everywhere he told me.

I still can't help but roll my ass off everytime I hear that story and think D is lucky someone didn't at least confront him, but he was chasing a guy who stole his bike and in that context really, REALLY dropping it. He carries a nice sized knife and he's gonna stab that dude next time he sees him. :1orglaugh

Yeah, D's a little off his rocker and even him and I have squabbed in the past. He's not exactly a punk. That also helps if you are gonna drop it - you had better be able to throw down. In fact the toughest guy I ever knew (Irishman) beat up four blacks in one setting after one of them broke a bottle over his head. :glugglug:

Sounds credible.

How do you have a conversation long enough about who's bike it is and the guy gets away from a so believed tough guy who carries a knife on the bike? What was your "friend" doing while this guy was starting to peddle? Is he handicapped? He can't run fast enough to keep up with someone starting to peddle away on a bike??? A guy with 2 hands on a bike, straddling it doesn't have any advantage. Unless they get off of it, knock the person out confronting them then peddle away.

He's gonna stab the guy "next time"? Why not the first time?

Chasing the guy saying "get back here....."?? Makes sense. Guy is getting away on a bike he's presumably stolen after being assailed upon by it's owner and he's going to respond to "get back here..."?:1orglaugh:thumbsup:

Well I suppose they have those goofy signs in airports telling people inclined to try and smuggle a bomb on a plane that they are prohibited.

I would laugh too every time I hear one of this guy's "stories". Especially the ones about how he's always kicking the shit out of and chasing guys around.:clap:

Sorry BS Scott..I have a pretty nice size bullshit meter....and I've heard probably allot more sea stories than you and I can see the holes in them almost immediately.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

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Chasing the guy saying "get back here....."?? Makes sense. Guy is getting away on a bike he's presumably stolen after being assailed upon by it's owner and he's going to respond to "get back here..."?:

I would laugh too every time I hear one of this guy's "stories". Especially the ones about how he's always kicking the shit out of and chasing guys around.:clap:

Know-it-all, he did not assault him, he was trying to beat the snot out of him and get his Giant back. How in the sam fucking hell would I come up with a story like this? Call the MPD if you want proof because he called them immediately after.


I love how YOU just conveniently pick and choose what stories you believe on here and those you don't, but it's pretty clear the ones that are "credible" are your butt buddies on here.

I could care less what you believe, because it did happen Uptown neighborhood not far from the U where there has been record high bike thefts this year.

Watch yourself Mr. Hot Mega Fuck, flaming is not encouraged nor allowed on the board. :ban:

 

[Hot Mega]

Re: U.S. talk show host who used the 'N' word 11 times to a black caller on the air q

Know-it-all, he did not assault him, he was trying to beat the snot out of him and get his Giant back. How in the sam fucking hell would I come up with a story like this? Call the MPD if you want proof because he called them immediately after.

Well, I'm not blaming you. Presumably you weren't there and were told this.

The first question is how does someone get away on a bike after presumably being stopped and confronted (now you say physically) by someone else?

In practical terms, if I'm a better ass kicker than a guy on a bike...and it's my bike...how the hell is he going to get away from me on a bike if he was stopped??

The only way someone gets away (that I can think of in this situation as you explain it) is if your friend got his ass kicked and was incapacitated long enough for the guy to get away.

I mean, you don't push a button and instantly go 20 mph on a bike.:dunno:

 

[Hot Mega]

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Watch yourself Mr. Hot Mega Fuck, flaming is not encouraged nor allowed on the board. :ban:

What flame? I had questions and asked you to make sense of a story where parts of it sound not credible...When something is made, the teller of it usually ignores making sense of practical details.

 

[Bloodshot Scott]

Re: U.S. talk show host who used the 'N' word 11 times to a black caller on the air q

Well, I'm not blaming you. Presumably you weren't there and were told this.

The first question is how does someone get away on a bike after presumably being stopped and confronted (now you say physically) by someone else?

In practical terms, if I'm a better ass kicker than a guy on a bike...and it's my bike...how the hell is he going to get away from me on a bike if he was stopped??

The only way someone gets away (that I can think of in this situation as you explain it) is if your friend got his ass kicked and was incapacitated long enough for the guy to get away.

I mean, you don't push a button and instantly go 20 mph on a bike.:dunno:

D saw him after leaving a store and the guy had a bag on his arm (he did get the bag but there was not much in there) after a little of pulling on it and trying to pull him off he let the bag go, then sped off. Have you ever ridden a bike - a nice one like a Giant? Giants get up real quick but D is a little bigger anyway so it's not far fetched at all.

Anyway, we are getting WAY off topic here but just wanted to say that was a weird incident and general context and no one attacked him whilst chasing a thief down. And if you want to, call MPD for specifics; happened about exactly two months ago.

Can you not argue over trivial shit like this? Okay? Good day to you.