The reason for buying a gun

[Mariahxxx]

i meant 38 i was typing on my ipad
here's the scenario:
if someone comes into my house at night and I hear them. I have a loaded 12 gauge next to the bed. I know the layout of my house better than anyone. if they have a gun they are going to be guessing where I'll be so I'll have the jump with a gun. But I have wood floors so without a gun I have to move into position which causes floors to creak which in a silent house is very loud. as I said, when you are breaking into a home with people there your senses are on high alert so for me to get close enough to someone with a gun and I only have a bat is going to be very tough. plus if its a hallway how do I swing a bat? too close and in a struggle I cant do shit with a bat but I can fire a round into a leg or a hand or an arm. or whatever. ask Trayvon Martin about such a situation. oh yeah, you can't because he's dead.

If someone were to break in to my house and I have my gun, I put my back to a wall with a clear line of sight and I slide down to a sitting position. From there I cannot be flanked and if a shot it taken in my direction its more likely to go high than low. I fire my 12 gauge through the wall if needed and it goes through drywall like butter.

the snub nose is not an accurate weapon by any means, but Ill take it all day long against a baseball bat I squeeze off 6 quick ones while you're rearing back to swing.

and you are telling me that you know people who can disarm me without me getting a shot off? bullshit. Ive taken classes and I go to the range. My finger is nowhere else but the trigger in a situation like that so good luck unless its flash gordon.

 

[Mariahxxx]

and what I dont understand is this naive thinking that people breaking into an occupied home won't do any harm if you just surrender and offer them what they want. that's just fucking DUMB as the detectives told my uncle and aunt when they had a home invasion in LA the people who do home invasions are prepared and willing to do violence. it's part of a home invasion. a home invasion is a class A or 1st degree felony and will get you 25 years to life. ask BC if I'm wrong so those people don't give a fuck and have little to lose. residential burglary is the single most violent crime not involving murder.

so to think if you just put your hands up and say "take what you want Im not armed" is the safe alternative you are a bleeding heart dipshit. rack the 12 gauge and as they are realizing they fucked with the wrong person you blast them. you make sure you live to tell about it and not the other way around. only way to do that is with a firearm. period

 

[wdoall]

I have disarmed somebody with a firearm and although it hurts to have the hammer drop on your finger it hurts a lot less than being shot. it's a gamble and its luck as much as skill to get away with that action.

 

[Chopper3000]

i meant 38 i was typing on my ipad
here's the scenario:
if someone comes into my house at night and I hear them. I have a loaded 12 gauge next to the bed. I know the layout of my house better than anyone. if they have a gun they are going to be guessing where I'll be so I'll have the jump with a gun. But I have wood floors so without a gun I have to move into position which causes floors to creak which in a silent house is very loud. as I said, when you are breaking into a home with people there your senses are on high alert so for me to get close enough to someone with a gun and I only have a bat is going to be very tough. plus if its a hallway how do I swing a bat? too close and in a struggle I cant do shit with a bat but I can fire a round into a leg or a hand or an arm. or whatever. ask Trayvon Martin about such a situation. oh yeah, you can't because he's dead.

If someone were to break in to my house and I have my gun, I put my back to a wall with a clear line of sight and I slide down to a sitting position. From there I cannot be flanked and if a shot it taken in my direction its more likely to go high than low. I fire my 12 gauge through the wall if needed and it goes through drywall like butter.

the snub nose is not an accurate weapon by any means, but Ill take it all day long against a baseball bat I squeeze off 6 quick ones while you're rearing back to swing.

and you are telling me that you know people who can disarm me without me getting a shot off? bullshit. Ive taken classes and I go to the range. My finger is nowhere else but the trigger in a situation like that so good luck unless its flash gordon.

With the proper training you can be disarmed in a fraction of a second - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skUgegwkX9I

 

[Mariahxxx]

well if their finger is on the trigger and they are prepared you will not get a gun away from them without shots being fired. if you wanna take your chances with that then be my guest. but not me. i fire before the chump can get close enough.

 

[Mariahxxx]

chopper, the proper training is if im taken by surprise not if Im ready and in position as ive been trained. it wouldnt be like in a movie where i grab the gun and go out into the house turning on lights looking around. i would establish myself in a safe spot so no one could get close enough to me.

i have an alarm with chime sensors on every window and door as well as motion sensors and shatter sensors. if someone comes into my house I know it well in advance. no one is taking my gun. you bleeding hearts can play it anyway you want, but I know how to protect myself and my home and not have my firearm taken from me.

 

[Chopper3000]

and what I dont understand is this naive thinking that people breaking into an occupied home won't do any harm if you just surrender and offer them what they want. that's just fucking DUMB as the detectives told my uncle and aunt when they had a home invasion in LA the people who do home invasions are prepared and willing to do violence. it's part of a home invasion. a home invasion is a class A or 1st degree felony and will get you 25 years to life. ask BC if I'm wrong so those people don't give a fuck and have little to lose. residential burglary is the single most violent crime not involving murder.

so to think if you just put your hands up and say "take what you want Im not armed" is the safe alternative you are a bleeding heart dipshit. rack the 12 gauge and as they are realizing they fucked with the wrong person you blast them. you make sure you live to tell about it and not the other way around. only way to do that is with a firearm. period

A story from the UK - Daily Mail May 2013 (if only he had a cricket bat):

A farmer jailed for shooting dead a burglar has told how he was too scared to tackle an intruder this week in case he was branded a criminal. Tony Martin, 67, confronted a man stealing a tractor battery on Thursday, but felt he had to let him go. The pensioner said he wished he had tried to stop him, but was afraid to defend his property after being locked up in 2000. Mr Martin, who no longer holds a gun licence, said he realised ‘it would be me in trouble’. He added: ‘I couldn’t face going through all that again.’

The farmer fired three shots in 1999 after finding two burglars inside his remote Cambridgeshire home. He killed Fred Barras, 16, and wounded his accomplice, Brendon Fearon, then 29. Mr Martin was initially jailed for nine years after being convicted of murder, but it was reduced to manslaughter on appeal, and he was released after three years. The case sparked fierce debate over whether homeowners should be given greater legal protection to defend their property.

Two days ago, Mr Martin caught a man breaking into a barn on his 14-acre property, but felt powerless to stop him. He said he had already been burgled ‘two or three times’ since he was released from jail. He said: ‘I could easily have made it, and fought him for what he’d stolen, but then it quickly flashed through my mind that it would be me in trouble, not him. ‘There were weapons inside the shed so, if I had wanted to fight him off, I could have. I wished I had but, after everything I’ve been through in the past, I just couldn’t face all that hassle again.

‘I haven’t changed my views about what happened in 1999, but the whole experience has made me lose faith in the system and I didn’t want to be made out as the criminal again.’ Mr Martin, who never moved back into the farmhouse where both burglaries took place, was checking his outbuildings when he came across the intruder. He claimed the man, in his 20s, had a £90 tractor battery and a new sink unit in his arms


Not always clever to own a gun, at least in the UK.

 

[Mariahxxx]

that is quite simply because the laws of your country are fucking stupid. when the concern is equally on behalf of the criminal as it is of the victim then everyone loses.

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AMEN

 

[wdoall]

not a bleeding heart, I own firearms I have no issues with um I keep mine locked in the safe. for home protection I know my house better than anybody and nobody will get in here without my knowing.

 

[Mariahxxx]

I wasnt calling you a bleeding heart

 

[spacearrow99]

People are entitled to own guns in the U. S., and many have said that the bad guys have guns in the U.S. I use weapons like the FN Five-seven and SRM Arms Model 1216a shotgun for home defense. The FN Five-seven is one of the best firearms I have ever shot. its a semi-automatic personal defense weapon. I support making full automatic PDWs illegal for civilian use and weapons like KRISS Vector 45ACP submachine gun. Those weapons are easily concealable, lightweight, and fire well over a thousand rounds a minute.

 

[wdoall]

I wasnt calling you a bleeding heart

sorry then for the misunderstanding my sincerest apologies

 

[Philbert]

A .380 (9mm short) is the same circumference as a .38, only shorter and with a lighter grain bullet, shorter cartridge, etc.
It will fire in a .38, but not recommended.
I had a Taurus 2" snubnose .38 with some Packmyr grips, with an extension for the pinky finger.
With standard (not +P) I could hit a pretty tight pattern at 10 yards at the range holding it 1 handed. There was almost no recoil I noticed, my .380 Beretta had more hand slap than the .38.

 

[Mr. Daystar]

i meant 38 i was typing on my ipad
here's the scenario:
if someone comes into my house at night and I hear them. I have a loaded 12 gauge next to the bed. I know the layout of my house better than anyone. if they have a gun they are going to be guessing where I'll be so I'll have the jump with a gun. But I have wood floors so without a gun I have to move into position which causes floors to creak which in a silent house is very loud. as I said, when you are breaking into a home with people there your senses are on high alert so for me to get close enough to someone with a gun and I only have a bat is going to be very tough. plus if its a hallway how do I swing a bat? too close and in a struggle I cant do shit with a bat but I can fire a round into a leg or a hand or an arm. or whatever. ask Trayvon Martin about such a situation. oh yeah, you can't because he's dead.

If someone were to break in to my house and I have my gun, I put my back to a wall with a clear line of sight and I slide down to a sitting position. From there I cannot be flanked and if a shot it taken in my direction its more likely to go high than low. I fire my 12 gauge through the wall if needed and it goes through drywall like butter.

the snub nose is not an accurate weapon by any means, but Ill take it all day long against a baseball bat I squeeze off 6 quick ones while you're rearing back to swing.

and you are telling me that you know people who can disarm me without me getting a shot off? bullshit. Ive taken classes and I go to the range. My finger is nowhere else but the trigger in a situation like that so good luck unless its flash gordon.

Your best tactical advantage is to never leave your bedroom. You wait for them to come to you...and yes, if you are within arms reach, I know a couple of people that can take that gun from you, and stick it up your ass sideways before you can wonder why you no longer have a gun in your hand, and a sharp pain in your butt hole. You can call bullshit all you want, I know it's true, and you don't know the couple of people I'm talking about.

By the way, you should always keep your cell phone in your room, and charge it there in case they cut the lines. And for the record, training is a great thing to do, and taking as many classes as you can is too...but it isn't the same thing as real life....until you've had a gun in your face, and the threat of death seconds away, you will never know. Maybe you have, but if you haven't...I highly DON'T recommend it.

A .380 (9mm short) is the same circumference as a .38, only shorter and with a lighter grain bullet, shorter cartridge, etc.
It will fire in a .38, but not recommended.

NO...NO IT WILL NOT FIT!! A .380, or 9mm Kurz, and a 9mm are the same diameter, but different length cases. They ARE NOT interchangeable under any circumstance. A .38 special is slightly larger, at around 9.6 mm (divide, or multiply by 25.4 to change mm to inches) A .38 special is a rimmed cartridge, neither the .380, or the 9mm are, they call them rimless, because the rim you see, is the same diameter as the case, and is partially held in place by the guns extractor...that's why it has that bevel. Even a .38 Super, which IS the same diameter as the .38 Special, aren't interchangeable, because one fits a semi auto, and one is for a revolver. NEVER USE AMMO THAT ISN'T PRINTED ON THE GUN! EVER.

 

[Philbert]

Actually there was at least one 9mm revolver made, and it used a special "rim" that hels the rounds in place. I don't know what came of the idea, but I wasn't interested in 9mm revolvers so I never followed up.
I am aware of the rim difference, I do not know that a .45 revolver won't fire the same ammo as a .45 auto. How does that work?

 

[Justaman]

How does that work?

Wow....you mean there is something that you actually don't know??? I'm in shock. I thought you were the ultimate source of information for everything. Guess I'll have to find another guru to lead the way for me. :1orglaugh

 

[Philbert]

Revolvers chambered for .45 ACP headspace the round just like a 1911 -- on the case mouth. It is perfectly safe with .45 ACP ammo, with and without the so-called full-moon and half-moon clips or with the thicker-rimmed .45 Auto Rim cartridges.

I checked.

Hey, Justapussy...please find another guru; I always believed ya can't fix stupid; and you qualify for terminal dumbass status.

 

[Mariahxxx]

as I said, I would find a wall with a clear line of sight and then slide down to a sitting position gun in front of me. no one can flank me and I stay put. if they dont come to me then they live. if they pass in front of me then they die.

I do situational exercises at my range. its awesome and a great workout and really teaches you how difficult shooting a hand gun is.

 

[Jack Davenport]

Obviously the only weapon that could render Mariah Oakley defenseless is a 12 gauge semen laden cum gun with a blast point blank to the face.

 

[Mariahxxx]

hahaha now YOU'RE writing jokes?????????????? what gives?????????

if someone is in the correct position and their finger is on the trigger then Bruce Lee couldn't take their gun without them getting off at least a shot or 2.