That's simply incorrect. And while I understand the points you're raising, and even agree with a few of them, you aren't going to reasonably argue that the American government has control over what the media says and does, are you?
Osama Bin Laden is dead
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That's simply incorrect. And while I understand the points you're raising, and even agree with a few of them, you aren't going to reasonably argue that the American government has control over what the media says and does, are you?
Photos from the Bin Laden Compound
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Shifty
O.G.
"... but we don't need to spike the football".
- Pres. Obama
(from the link http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Pakistan.html posted by Ulysses)
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Re. the Reuters link in the above post: Those men are recognizable. One would guess that those photos will constitute some form of 'proof' to certain parties, assuming that they are known associates of the primary subject.
- Pres. Obama
(from the link http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Pakistan.html posted by Ulysses)
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Re. the Reuters link in the above post: Those men are recognizable. One would guess that those photos will constitute some form of 'proof' to certain parties, assuming that they are known associates of the primary subject.
Again, you're talking 2 different things.
The American g'ment DOES have control over what the American media says and does when the American g'ment has the only pics and footage around as they presumably do in the case of OBL.
There was not such control over what images and footage came out of Fallujah and unfortunately the way these things go...if it's out there and someone's going to print/run it...Which ever media it is will run with it too because if their customers are going to see it anyway..why not let them see it in the publication you're already providing them?
The American media wants for obvious reasons to run the OBL pics...the g'ment is standing in their way.
Now they could sue under the FOA and I hope they do but right now Obama has made the decision on this...not the American media.:2 cents:
Seems like the media is fueling the conspiracy theories. Which annoys me because I'm tired of hearing them.
I too would like proof but it's going to be months of arguing to get them and trying to embarrass the gov into releasing them.
I think it's pathetic it's an issue when terrorists have decapitated reporters live on TV. Especially when we've seen Uday, Qusay and Saddam...no one gives a shit just show it.
I too would like proof but it's going to be months of arguing to get them and trying to embarrass the gov into releasing them.
I think it's pathetic it's an issue when terrorists have decapitated reporters live on TV. Especially when we've seen Uday, Qusay and Saddam...no one gives a shit just show it.
Shifty
O.G.
According to new information on CNN, the circulated photos were fakes.
I am sure this has already been mentioned but I personally think he should have been captured if possible and locked in a cell for the rest of his life rather than getting the easy way out with a instant shot to the head after living in luxury for the last 6 years.
I also think americans have the right to see the photos considering 1: all the gore that can be seen in almost any horror movie these days is gonna be worse or as bad.
2: We gave him the "respectful" burial that wouldn't anger the muslim world so why give him more he personally doesnt deserve deserve.
3: fuck the excuse that more terrorist attacks will happen if we show them, like a terrorist is going to be sitting alone thinking to himself "well I was going to attack but now since they didnt show a photo I think i will stay home".
Just show the photos and possibly the videos of the raid and put the conspiracy theories to rest before they really start, I am sure the world can handle it.
I also think americans have the right to see the photos considering 1: all the gore that can be seen in almost any horror movie these days is gonna be worse or as bad.
2: We gave him the "respectful" burial that wouldn't anger the muslim world so why give him more he personally doesnt deserve deserve.
3: fuck the excuse that more terrorist attacks will happen if we show them, like a terrorist is going to be sitting alone thinking to himself "well I was going to attack but now since they didnt show a photo I think i will stay home".
Just show the photos and possibly the videos of the raid and put the conspiracy theories to rest before they really start, I am sure the world can handle it.
uk news bin reporten
obama explaining why the pictures of osama's
corpse won't be released
(at least anytime soon - we should set up a thread with some sorta prize for the member who guesses correctly when the pictures will eventually appear in the webosphere :dunno
i guess i agree with the reasoning,
there is no sense in sticking a godawful picture out there,
sunni terrorists might want to try to make something of it
and if the top of his head is completely blown off - i don't know if i need to see that,
it's different from many (most) notable political corpses we've seen over the last five decades - when people have been shot in the chest / not the face
but it's one of those, where there are almost equally good arguements the other way ...
or better ...
discuss,
if you wanna
obama explaining why the pictures of osama's
corpse won't be released
(at least anytime soon - we should set up a thread with some sorta prize for the member who guesses correctly when the pictures will eventually appear in the webosphere :dunno
i guess i agree with the reasoning,
there is no sense in sticking a godawful picture out there,
sunni terrorists might want to try to make something of it
and if the top of his head is completely blown off - i don't know if i need to see that,
it's different from many (most) notable political corpses we've seen over the last five decades - when people have been shot in the chest / not the face
but it's one of those, where there are almost equally good arguements the other way ...
or better ...
discuss,
if you wanna
meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
thats it in a nutshell.
there should be no argument or debate about it.
but if we are being bullshitted, the way it could have went down is that US intel got news of him buying a farm somewhere and they made a story up.
I doubt it,but hell, if they can get away with killing their own president I don't put anything past them.
I don't need to see the picture to believe that Osama is dead. Call me crazy but I actually believe the government. The man was shot in the head so it's fair to say that any picture would be very gruesome. If he had been shot somewhere in the lower body then I could see them releasing the picture. I also keep hearing people say that we should release the picture because we see way worse on TV. I disagree with that argument because the shit we see on TV ISN'T REAL! Their is a difference between a dead person on TV and a dead person who we know is actually dead.
non of us knew him. so ive got no problem with it. ive seen PLENTY of pictures of dead terrorists and various other dead/mangled people online. i think today, people as a whole are numbed to shit like that
rep that ice
ps: about your sig,
seems a lot of guys from the us love braveheart,
and while it's a good picture to get the emotions running
and william wallace was a really interestin historical character
braveheart is the most innacurate, historically incorrect, biased
crok of shit i've ever seen
.. and i'm scotish :tinhat:
September 11th was shown Live on every news channel. We all watched literally hundreds of people die in huge heaps of rubble.
In my area there was a man who had died and was frozen in ice in an abandoned building. They showed the photo of his dead body.
http://detnews.com/article/20090128...goes-on-around-body-found-in-vacant-warehouse
Other examples:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...security-guard-Wild-West-style-shoot-out.html
You see this shit all the time in the context of law and order or the simple curiosity of why a man might be in a building frozen/mummified or other strange deaths. But it's not okay to show evidence that your government isn't lying to you?
If they show the pics, people are still going to say its faked so whats the point. If I want to see someone with a bullet in his head, I only need to watch the local news.
Will E Worm
Conspiracy...
A thinking person will never trust them they have a history of lies.
The farm animals blindly believe the federal government and they attack Christians for what they believe is "blind" faith to God.
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That is true; conspiracy theorists will always believe they are on to something because they've decided beforehand.
But there's way to tell if pictures are photoshopped or faked in some way. As they say extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. It was a bit odd they dumped the body so fast; I've had relatives put on ice longer than that.
I still think he's dead as it's not out of character I don't think for them to want to regulate it. I just think it's something that should be proven as it's pretty much the entire reason we went to war in 2 different countries to begin with.
In retrospect, what better place for him to hide. It would be the last place we would necessarily suspect and OBL could hedge his bets that we wouldn't strike there for fear of killing Pakistani military. And if we dared to, some of those complicit in helping him would tip him off as soon as we ran it by some in the Pakistani g'ment.
Nice plan that apparently worked for years. We finally came up with a better plan.:1orglaugh
General point (meaning not a response to you) re: Obama and credit for this...
Those of you confused about why Obama should get credit for ordering this really need to understand the complexity and risk of his decision.
He was sending American forces into the heart of an ally's country to take unilateral action in which there was a great possibility we'd be killing someone at the orders of our president on foreign soil without prior authorization. On a 50-80 pct. chance OBL was there...
Never mind the prospect of our boys going into what's tantamount to a military town in Pakistan and risking killing the wrong person/people...Pakistani military no less.
He could have decided to drone strike the place then risk not being able to get in and ID OBL.. Or worse, cause collateral damage killing Pakistani military...what if Pakistani military somehow detected us and blew the op or thought they were under attack....
This op took enormous 'nads by all involved to execute and it wasn't and open and shut case. Certainly 'nads by Obama.
meesterperfect
Hiliary 2020
So they( the gov) or he (the prez) said they aren't going to release any photos of his corpse?
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