NFL '14 Season Thread
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There’s no nice way to say this, the Seattle coaching staff made a horrible play call decision on the New England 1 yard line that led to Malcolm Butler's goal-line interception with 20 seconds left preserving a 28-24 victory over Seattle. Marshawn Lynch who led the league in rushing touchdowns (13 regular season, 4 in the post season) was stopped just short of the goal line on the previous play, but the Seahawks brain trust didn't give the ball to their All-Pro back on the next snap. Instead, Russell Wilson attempted a slant in pass over the middle intended for Ricardo Lockette that Butler hauled in to give Brady his fourth Super Bowl ring, tying Joe Montana and Terry Bradshaw for the most by a quarterback in league history.
Horrible, horrible play calling!
Football is over, now I turn my attention to baseball, hockey and Felicia Taylor's cute titties.
Good summary.
Cindy, you and I know that the only people who still raise a stink about Spygate are people who don't understand it. They say they understand it and they might regurgitate something they read about it on a website that makes it sound like they understand it, but they don't.
That's what I'm thinking. It would have been better had they been blown out, now the the second-guessing and the "what ifs" will haunt that coaching staff, the players, the franchise and their fan base for the entire off season if not forever. This is the epitome of the one that got away or rather the one they gave away. I'm not even a seahawks fan per se and I feel like I got punched in the gut. I feel their pain. I feel for Russell Wilson for sure. He seems like a good guy.
I don't want to take any credit away from the Patriots' Malcolm Butler. He had that slant route sniffed out and made a great play. Kudos to him. As Jimmy Fallon on the Tonight Show pointed out - he'll never have to buy a drink in Boston again.
I think this could be the case. Not because of any psychological shock of losing the Superbowl, but because some of their best players are going to get new contracts with a lot more money in the near future, and there is just no way they can dedicate tens of millions dollars more to a few players than they do now and not have it effect the team negatively. Either they will lose a tremendous amount of dept, not be able to sign as many premium free agents, will have to let some of their best players go, or a large combination of those. About the only thing that can save them is if they draft very extremely well, and drafting is pretty much a crapshot for even teams that are good at it. Even though I do think he seems like a nice guy, the Russel Wilson contract that has to be coming up soon will especially sting. His bump in salary alone will hurt, but he's also probably going to become one of the highest if not highest paid player in the league, and he's a little above average as far as sill and talent goes unless he improves a lot. Unlike a lot of elite pocket passers his performance will go down even more if he's even a little nicked up in the wrong area. Aaron Rodgers can still be 90% effective with a leg he has trouble walking on. Wilson, not so much, and the chances of him aging well aren't as good. If for some reason they give a lot of money for Lynch to stay it will be that much worse.
Being european I know nearly nothing about (US) Football (The only player I know from Yesterday's Superbowl was Tom Brady). the game was broadcasted here on some cable TV so I tried to watch it.
I kinda understand why you guys are into (US) Football. But I'm not and I don't think I will ever be. I think it is a cultural thing.
The game was interesting but it is too slow, there's too many time-out. But I undertstand that, when you're into it, it must be pretty exciting. And if you like statistics, you've got many of them to analyse.
So, to you (US) Football fans, I promise that in the future, I will try not to trash-talk about the game and the fans. :hatsoff:
I kinda understand why you guys are into (US) Football. But I'm not and I don't think I will ever be. I think it is a cultural thing.
The game was interesting but it is too slow, there's too many time-out. But I undertstand that, when you're into it, it must be pretty exciting. And if you like statistics, you've got many of them to analyse.
So, to you (US) Football fans, I promise that in the future, I will try not to trash-talk about the game and the fans. :hatsoff:
^ that except for Russell Wilson. The devastating INT aside, look at the deep throws he made in that game and his escapability in the pocket. He made that one oncoming Patriot's rusher who had a clear bead on him look like he was a statue. He's a dynamic QB, not the prototypical pocket QB but not the stereotypical running QB either. He's a legitimate weapon to be dealt with and he's gonna get paid. I think Lynch is all but gone. And their defensive coordinator is now the Atlanta Falcons head coach. The window for making multiple super bowl runs is so narrow even with a young team because of free agency. For the Patriots to be perennial super bowl contenders for such a long span (Brady is a 15 year vet) is remarkable, cheating controversies notwithstanding.
Glad the Patriots won
lol just lol at being 1-2 (.333) in Super Bowls
lol just lol at being 1-2 (.333) in Super Bowls
The stats just don't bare out his passing ability. Seattle's ability to score this year or during Wilson's tenure so far doesn't either to be brutally honest. Not that it's impossible for him to improve a great deal, but I also wouldn't bet the house on it. Seattle has gotten by with a historically good defense, and some of best rushing in the league the past three years. Wilson has been good enough compared to what they could have had to make it work. Right now he's a more mobile version of Flacco (the good version of Flacco to Wilson's credit at least). Being able to throw an occasional deep ball well just isn't something that can be relied on well in the modern NFL or to have an effective offense built around. As an example of the opposite Brady is horrible at deep balls and has been his whole career, yet can still have an inner circle Hall of Fame resume despite that by having the knack to quickly find the short open guy over and over again. Even Manning and Rodgers aren't that great at the deep stuff.
Wilson can make people miss, sure, and is a good running threat, but again that's just not something to build a long career around in the modern NFL. Those type of people are also more injury prone if for no other reason than they give opponents more opportunity to hit them. I've also seen Wilson do so many blind cut backs and turn arounds in the backfield to escape imminent pressure it makes me worried for him, even if he gets away with it most of the time. I can almost see it. One of these days there will be a corner blitz or something like it coming off his blind side and he will be quickly pressured and do one of his blind changes of direction and end up going full forced into that guy who will crush him. Remember that going forward he might not even have as good a line or running game to keep people honest so they can't target him so much, and every year there is film on him it gets that much tougher to run well as a running QB when they can better game plan around him. He's also probably not going to have a defense that can continue to hold opponents under 20 points for years on end in the future. At some point he's going to be handed the ball and expected to score 35 or 40 points a game to match the 30 his opponents have a good chance of scoring against them, and he's going to be paid to a level where that's expected of him, and he better do it at a consistent level. Like I said Seattle better draft really well the next few years.
I heard that stat during the game and it was surprising. I was thinking of all those long ball TDs to Randy Moss circa 2007-2008.
As far as Wilson, no, he's not one of the elite passers and yes, he's had the benefit of an elite defense his first three seasons but bottom line, he can ball. I'm looking at his career stats and one of the most telling for any QB and how effective they are is yards-per-attempt. Anything over 8 is considered excellent. His career average is 7.9. And he takes care of the ball (besides that last play). In each of his first 3 seasons he's thrown 20 or more TDs and no more than 10 INTs which is remarkable for someone in their first 3 years and starting as a rookie. And another factor to consider is his receiving corps. With the exception of Percy Harvin, none of the wide receivers on Seattle's roster this season were even drafted. He's never had a #1 receiver, even with Percy Harvin.
But there's more to him than all that. He's just one of those guys who has "it". I know this is woulda-shoulda-coulda but if that last pass had been back shoulder or even a mere 6 inches to the right (or if they had called a f'n run) and considering that miracle bobble catch Jermaine Kearse made a few plays before, we'd be talking about that being one of the all-time great, clutch game-winning superbowl drives. I've compared his deep balls to Drew Brees but do you know who he really reminds me of? Doug Flutie. I've never seen him play but I've see enough of his highlights and there was an NFL Network feature on his college and pro career that was on a few weeks ago and that guy was magic and he had a long career as a QB who could scramble around the pocket and run if need be. Like Wilson, he was undersized but could simply just ball.
And I don't think Wilson has reached his ceiling. As for the Seahawks, yeah, it's going to take some GM wizardry and some luck to make another couple of runs at it.
Seahawks fuck it up with their defense in the 4th qtr.
They adjusted well to the NE Cheaters dink and dunk after the Cheaters scored the first 14.
Carroll is stupid also with his remark that the Cheaters were in a goal line situation. DUH! Trying putting a DT in at FB if you are that scared on the one to lead for Lynch, but time was not a factor with a timeout left to try at least one run on 2nd and 1 and 26 seconds.
Plus Wilson made a Gay Cutler type of throw in a crowded part of the field. A sideline slant would of been a better call for passing.
They adjusted well to the NE Cheaters dink and dunk after the Cheaters scored the first 14.
Carroll is stupid also with his remark that the Cheaters were in a goal line situation. DUH! Trying putting a DT in at FB if you are that scared on the one to lead for Lynch, but time was not a factor with a timeout left to try at least one run on 2nd and 1 and 26 seconds.
Plus Wilson made a Gay Cutler type of throw in a crowded part of the field. A sideline slant would of been a better call for passing.
And the NE Cheaters under Belicheat started their bogus style when they beat the Rams for Brady's 1st.
Rams scripted their first 20 plays and some how Belicheat got of hold of the plays. They got a early advantage on that high power Rams offense by knowing what was coming. There was a tape analysis showing the Cheater defenders in the right positions on pass or run the first 20 Rams plays.
Rams scripted their first 20 plays and some how Belicheat got of hold of the plays. They got a early advantage on that high power Rams offense by knowing what was coming. There was a tape analysis showing the Cheater defenders in the right positions on pass or run the first 20 Rams plays.
Chris Christie was peed about the Dez Bryant no TD that he watched soccer instead of the Super Bowl.
http://sports.yahoo.com/video/chris-christie-ditching-super-bowl-010231718.html
http://sports.yahoo.com/video/chris-christie-ditching-super-bowl-010231718.html
The interception by Wilson at the end does make me wonder. What would have been the response if Tony Romo or Manning had thrown that? Everybody seems to focus on the horrible play call, which it was, but Wilson seems to get off relatively easy here. You don't here much super choker stuff going around. It's things like this that just add to the pile that things like magic, clutch ability, and winning when it "counts" are close to if not nonexistent.
Choking in a big game is a relatively new experience for Wilson. Give him time and he may catch up to Romo or Manning who have earned their reputation.
Is there statistical proof of that? Given enough games everybody seems to have regressed to what there usual playing abilities are. Nobody bats an eye when Romo plays well late in the year this year as an example, and when all things like field position, strength of opponent, and individual performance are taking into account Manning's playoff performance as a whole is actually one of the better ones in history. Cherry picking individual games let alone individual plays isn't a logical way to evaluate a person in a team sport, and it IS a team sport. Yet, most people use the worst way as a measuring stick to judge individuals in it, mainly wins and loses. That might work better if a person is talking about boxing or golf, (and even then their opponents have to be taken into account) but there are much better ways than that. Celebrating somebody for being clutch or criticizing them for chocking is akin celebrating or criticizing statistical noise. :2 cents: :dunno:
lol
Marshall Faulk's conspiracy theories are not fact. Give me something solid or STFU.
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