NFL '11 Season Thread

Re: NFC North

Let's not forget, it took GB in the very last game of the regular season to keep the Bears from SWEEPING the division. Rogers was the only starting QB to survive the Bears, as Favre was knocked into a coma and Julius Peppers took Matt Stafford's shoulder home with him. A lot of folks are sleeping on Chicago this year, but the O-line is better...

Yes, better...

than last years and they've added an actual goal line RB in Barber which was sorely needed. The defense is virtually the same, so the biggest concern is how the WR's will do.

It'll be a toss-up b/t Chicago and GB, but I'm taking Chicago given their penchant for inflicting pain and causing injuries. Last years battles were very close, and Chicago lost partially because they could not run the ball effectively at the goal line, and couldn't give Cutler time. I think they've done enough there, and the defense is still really strong.
 
Re: NFC North

I am a huge Vikings fan, and can't wait for the season to start next week! The NFC North should be very entertaining this year, and I thought it deserved some more attention. What are your thoughts on the season?

Queens fan, eh?

I'm a moderate fan, really, at best nowadays. Ever since we puked in '98 with arguably the best team in NFL history, I've found it hard to put on my purple Moss authentic. It sits comfortably in my closet. We were a formidable challenger, yes, throughout the early part of the century, but '09 really made me even sicker, only since I was already sick to see Favre sitting in a purple jersey.

McNabb? No. No, not a good thing. AP? The way he is a wrecking ball his career will not last long. Our wideouts are all pretty much mediocre at this point. I don't see any real light at the end of the tunnel for some time. Our only real hope is that Ponder turns into some sort of Brady or Rivers. That could take years with McNabb there now.
 
Re: AFC East Thread

OMG is this the 3rd football thread you have started STDiva?

OMG is that the 129th pointless post count spam post you've made Newswire?
 
Re: NFC North

Let's not forget, it took GB in the very last game of the regular season to keep the Bears from SWEEPING the division. Rogers was the only starting QB to survive the Bears, as Favre was knocked into a coma and Julius Peppers took Matt Stafford's shoulder home with him. A lot of folks are sleeping on Chicago this year, but the O-line is better...

Yes, better...

than last years and they've added an actual goal line RB in Barber which was sorely needed. The defense is virtually the same, so the biggest concern is how the WR's will do.

It'll be a toss-up b/t Chicago and GB, but I'm taking Chicago given their penchant for inflicting pain and causing injuries. Last years battles were very close, and Chicago lost partially because they could not run the ball effectively at the goal line, and couldn't give Cutler time. I think they've done enough there, and the defense is still really strong.

Exactly. People also forget Green Bay sneaked into the playoffs last year with a 10-6 record. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was a Desean Jackson punt return that eliminated the Giants allowing Green Bay to get in. Not to take anything away from them, but a lot had to go right for them last year. People calling them Super Bowl favourites and "the class of the division" is silly.
 

maildude

Postal Paranoiac
Roster moves should be interesting this weekend after yesterday's pare-down. Some moves--particularly with the Titans and the Seahawks--can have an impact on a winning or a losing season. And at this early juncture I will say this, which I have rarely said. In my opinion, there are NO teams that are head and shoulders above everyone else. Predicting divisional winners now is nothing more than guesswork.
 
The problem with that is Green Bay was better than their record indicated last year and Chicago was worse. They were quite a bit apart as far as actual quality of the teams.

Chicago also had a few close games they probably should have lost last year. The one game against Detroit comes to mind the most, but there were others. I have seen nothing with what Chicago has done before the season to indicate that they have closed in significantly on Green Bay. If anything it Green Bay might have come down a little. Does that mean Chicago won't win the division? No, because sports are something where things like random chance can play a big role, but I still think Green Bay is the best in the division.
 
At the end of the day this is still a quarterback's league, and elite quarterback's who are in or close to entering their prime are usually the safest bets. Give me Rodgers over Cutler any day of the week.
 
so, completely off line question: who is your most improving and most regressing team this season?

Most improving for me: cleveland Browns, they have the talent in place and can challenge for a wild card spot to the last week of the season
Most regressing team: kansas City Chiefs, got lucky on a last place schedule i.e. the Bengals of some years ago when they went from last to first, than back to last the next season...they dont have the talent to survive a first place schedule even in the average AFC West.
 

Ace Bandage

The one and only.
WTHR in Indy is reporting that Peyton Manning might possibly need another surgery on his neck due to the slow progress of his rehab thus far. This would put him out indefinitely for the 2011-2012 season. It was confirmed by ESPN that he has been seeing other specialists, but they insist that no new procedure has been scheduled.

There's more to this than they're letting on. The Colts would not have signed Collins to such a deal if they thought Manning was going to miss a short amount of time. Do not be surprised if Indy loses the Sheriff for the season.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6931858/peyton-manning-neck-being-re-evaluated-doctors-sources-say
 
Most improved...Houston. 6 to 11 wins and a division title. St Louis, much to my chagrin will also clean house this year. 7 to 10 wins and division title.
Most regressed... Kansas City will drop. 10 to 7 wins and out of the playoffs. I'm on the fence with Tampa Bay and Indianapolis. Both could miss the playoffs, but I have them both penciled in.
 
What about Detroit for most improved. Worst 10 yrs in football history but should be competitive this year
 
Sad news in today in Football if you a Buccaneers Fans that HOF Lee Roy Selmon passed way last night :crying::crying::crying:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d821f67d3/article/hall-of-famer-selmon-56-dies-two-days-after-suffering-stroke?module=HP11_headline_stack


TAMPA, Fla. -- Lee Roy Selmon, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' Hall of Fame defensive end who teamed with his brothers to create a dominant defensive front and helped lead Oklahoma to consecutive national championships, died Sunday - two days after being hospitalized for a stroke. He was 56.

A statement released on behalf of his wife, Claybra Selmon, said he died at a Tampa hospital surrounded by family members.

"For all his accomplishments on and off the field, to us Lee Roy was the rock of our family. This has been a sudden and shocking event and we are devastated by this unexpected loss," the statement said.

Selmon was hospitalized Friday, and the Buccaneers confirmed later that he suffered a stroke.

"The guy just worked as hard as you could ever work and was just a great guy," said former Tampa Bay teammate Bill Kollar, now the Houston Texans' assistant head coach and defensive line coach.

"Never got mad, was just always great to everybody and it's hard to imagine that you could end up being a better person than Lee Roy was. Really, the guy was just an phenomenal person. ... It's obviously really a sad day. The guy was a great player and even a better person. It's just a shame that this happened to him."

The Glazer family, which owns the Buccaneers, released a statement mourning him.

"Tampa Bay has lost another giant. This is an incredibly somber day for Buccaneer fans, Sooner fans, and all football fans. Lee Roy's standing as the first Buc in the Hall of Fame surely distinguished him, but his stature off the field as the consummate gentleman put him in another stratosphere," the statement said.

Selmon and his brother, Dewey, were both chosen as All-Americans in 1975 when the Sooners won their second straight championship under Barry Switzer. They followed older brother Lucious to Oklahoma, and the three played together during the 1973 season.

"No Sooner player cast a longer shadow over its rich tradition than Lee Roy," former Oklahoma coach Barry Switzer said in a statement. "Beyond his many and great accomplishments, I believe the true legacy of Lee Roy Selmon lies within the kind of man he was. Lee Roy possessed a combination of grace, humility, and dignity that is rare. His engaging smile and gentleness left you feeling blessed to be in his presence. Best of all, he was all genuine. One would be blessed to have a father, son, uncle, brother, or friend like Lee Roy Selmon."


News of Lee Roy Selmon's stroke had already spurred tributes to him on Saturday, when members of the University of South Florida's football team wore his number on their helmet. Selmon had served as the school's athletic director from 2001 to 2004.

"We all loved him, and we're all deeply saddened," said USF President Judy Genshaft. "We're a better university because of Lee Roy Selmon. He was an incredible role model, who cared about all of our student-athletes, no matter what sport. He built an incredible legacy and he will never be forgotten."

Selmon followed his Hall of Fame college career with an equally impressive run in the NFL. He was the No. 1 pick in the 1976 NFL Draft -- the first ever selection by expansion Tampa Bay -- and suffered through a winless inaugural season before achieving success. In 1979, he won the NFL Defensive Player of the Year award when he helped Tampa Bay make it to the NFC Championship Game. The Buccaneers also won the NFC Central title two years later.

Selmon was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1995. Presented by brother Dewey, Lee Roy said it was his family background that was noteworthy and not his accomplishments on the field.

"People have said, 'Your parents must be proud of you,' but I'm more proud of them," he said.

Selmon played a key role in the creation of the football program at South Florida, where he was the associate athletic director starting in 1993 and served as the AD from May 2001 until he stepped down in February 2004 because of health concerns.

While accompanying the South Florida football team to a game against Oklahoma in 2002, Lee Roy Selmon said he was humbled that Switzer had called him his greatest player.

"I see myself as just having been a teammate with so many great players and coaches," he told The Associated Press. "I'm floored by such a generous compliment."

Lee Roy Selmon was born Oct. 20, 1954, in Eufaula, Okla., to Jessie and Lucious Selmon Sr. and raised on a farm with eight siblings. The three who'd go on to star for the Sooners could have ended up at Colorado, if not for a last-minute recruiting

Larry Lacewell described in the book "Wish Bone" that the Sooners didn't decide to recruit Lucious Selmon until Barry Price switched his commitment from Oklahoma to Oklahoma State the day before signing day. Lacewell showed up at the Selmon's house to find Colorado coach Eddie Crowder there. When he got his chance to talk to the family, he stayed at the house until the two younger brothers had fallen asleep and he had convinced the Selmon parents it was better for Lucious to play 100 miles away than 600.

It ended up being a key day for the program.

Oklahoma went 10-0-1 with all three Selmon brothers playing together in 1973, then won national titles the next two seasons. Lee Roy Selmon won the Lombardi Award and the Outland Trophy in 1975. He ended his college career with 335 tackles, a school record for a lineman at the time, and 40 for a loss.

"There was a sense of awe every time you were in Lee Roy's presence, and yet that was the last thing he would have wanted," current Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops said. "He accomplished so many things in life, but remained a humble, unassuming champion. I hold up many of our previous greats as examples for our current players and Lee Roy is among the very best. All of our players would do well to follow in Lee Roy's footsteps."

Selmon went on to record 78.5 sacks and earn six consecutive Pro Bowl selections during his nine-year NFL career. He retired after the 1984 season.
 
I think the Ravens are another team that could struggle to make the play-offs their o-line is still not settled and that defense is 1 more year older. Luckily for them Cleveland and Cincinnati are still not ready to challenge them.

I think Peyton misses 4-6 games maybe more Kerry Dosen't sign a 2 year not expecting to sit.

red001
 
I've always liked Kerry Collins. Dude's arm is a rocket. I know he's more of a journeyman but there is something about his style I like. I guess you don't last as long as he has in the NFL is you aren't doing something right. :2 cents:
 
I think the Ravens are another team that could struggle to make the play-offs their o-line is still not settled and that defense is 1 more year older. Luckily for them Cleveland and Cincinnati are still not ready to challenge them.

I think Peyton misses 4-6 games maybe more Kerry Dosen't sign a 2 year not expecting to sit.

red001

The Ravens just helped themselves by signing Andre Gurode from the Cowboys.
 
At the end of the day this is still a quarterback's league, and elite quarterback's who are in or close to entering their prime are usually the safest bets. Give me Rodgers over Cutler any day of the week.

The question is: Is Rogers that much better than Cutler? I really don't think so.

Rogers has a MUCH better offense to work with... top to bottom. Better receivers, better line, better tight end, but lets call it what is: Cutler does only slightly less than Rogers with MUCH LESS!!! Switch out the QB's. How good would Rogers be with Chicago's offense and vice-versa. It is much more of a possibility that Cutler win the Super Bowl with GB than it is Rogers wins the NFC North with the Bears.

End of story.
 
The question is: Is Rogers that much better than Cutler? I really don't think so.

Rogers has a MUCH better offense to work with... top to bottom. Better receivers, better line, better tight end, but lets call it what is: Cutler does only slightly less than Rogers with MUCH LESS!!! Switch out the QB's. How good would Rogers be with Chicago's offense and vice-versa. It is much more of a possibility that Cutler win the Super Bowl with GB than it is Rogers wins the NFC North with the Bears.

End of story.

At the end of the day you can always count on Jay Cutler to show what he always is when the going get's rough: an interception machine.

End of story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7_duxRMIh0
 
The question is: Is Rogers that much better than Cutler? I really don't think so.

Rogers has a MUCH better offense to work with... top to bottom. Better receivers, better line, better tight end, but lets call it what is: Cutler does only slightly less than Rogers with MUCH LESS!!! Switch out the QB's. How good would Rogers be with Chicago's offense and vice-versa. It is much more of a possibility that Cutler win the Super Bowl with GB than it is Rogers wins the NFC North with the Bears.

End of story.

To say Cutler is anywhere close to that same talent as Aaron Rogers is crazy. I'm a Vikings fan so I hate both of them, but you can't be serious with that comment. There are too many people on here that have no idea what the are talking about, I'll leave my football talk for another site. You have officially made a comment dumb enough for me to never post about the NFL here evere again haha.
 
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